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4 hours ago, robosmith said:

How many were killed by the vaccine? I don't believe you have ANY evidence that was SIGNIFICANT.

I know of 12 or so that supposedly died from cardiac failure.

However, the CDC does not acknowledge that.

 

The CDC is full of shit.!

Now...regardless of this rehashing of The Rona and the lies surrounding it, the fact is that RFK Jr is pulling more fron Democrats than from Republicans. 

That's a "good" result.

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8 hours ago, robosmith said:

How many were killed by the vaccine? I don't believe you have ANY evidence that was SIGNIFICANT.

No one knows. It's one of the most closely guarded secrets in North America, and Big Tech wipes stories of vax injuries from their servers. 

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History shows that there has been some sort of government censorship (explicit or not so explicit). However, today's version is quite mild. If you say something on facebook and they delete.. you have dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of alternative outlets. Will you get quite the attention that you would with facebook? Maybe not but you are not being barred completely from expressing your view. 

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29 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

History shows that there has been some sort of government censorship (explicit or not so explicit). However, today's version is quite mild. If you say something on facebook and they delete.. you have dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of alternative outlets. Will you get quite the attention that you would with facebook? Maybe not but you are not being barred completely from expressing your view. 

So you're acknowledging that the gov't is involved in censorship - censoring the truth no less - and you're saying that "it's mild enough that it's ok"?

Do you realize that the gov't also has the MSM and social media spreading lies? Is that ok too? 

WTF is wrong with people these days. 

Demonrat apologists/cultists are also acknowledging that the FBI committed crimes: "But he was a really good guy. A little slap on the wrist was fine."

We know the Russian collusion episode was a farce now, we know that the FBI offered people reduced sentences for false testimony, we know that the Dems cheated on the 2016 election multiple times, we know that Dems were openly floating the idea of packing the SC court with 4 new loyalist judges, we know that the Dems condoned protests at conservative SCJ's homes, we know that the Dems bailed out rioters, we know that the Dems weaponized the IRS against conservative groups, the DOJ is blatantly weaponized against Trump, we know that there's an unholy alliance between the Dems and MSNBC/WashPo/NYT/CNN etc, and you're ok with all of that.

What more would it take for you to wonder if the US is on the verge of one-party rule? Isn't "jointly committing crimes with the FBI" enough of a red flag?

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15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So you're acknowledging that the gov't is involved in censorship - censoring the truth no less - and you're saying that "it's mild enough that it's ok"?

Do you realize that the gov't also has the MSM and social media spreading lies? Is that ok too? 

WTF is wrong with people these days. 

Demonrat apologists/cultists are also acknowledging that the FBI committed crimes: "But he was a really good guy. A little slap on the wrist was fine."

We know the Russian collusion episode was a farce now, we know that the FBI offered people reduced sentences for false testimony, we know that the Dems cheated on the 2016 election multiple times, we know that Dems were openly floating the idea of packing the SC court with 4 new loyalist judges, we know that the Dems condoned protests at conservative SCJ's homes, we know that the Dems bailed out rioters, we know that the Dems weaponized the IRS against conservative groups, the DOJ is blatantly weaponized against Trump, we know that there's an unholy alliance between the Dems and MSNBC/WashPo/NYT/CNN etc, and you're ok with all of that.

What more would it take for you to wonder if the US is on the verge of one-party rule? Isn't "jointly committing crimes with the FBI" enough of a red flag?

What "we" know is that you should be on a watch list for your own safety and the safety of others, because this crazy little dystopian fantasy you have running on a loop in your twisted mind is exactly the same kind of crazy nonsense that motivates a guy to invade a pizza parlor or storm the capitol. 

If the government were censoring misinformation, disinformation or general dipshittery, you'd be high on the list. If you ever STOP posting this bullshit it will be the first piece of evidence that you are actually onto something. 🙄

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6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The CDC is full of shit.!

Thanks for your worthless OPINION. They are much less FOS than YOU.

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Now...regardless of this rehashing of The Rona and the lies surrounding it, the fact is that RFK Jr is pulling more fron Democrats than from Republicans. 

That's a "good" result.

^More worthless OPINION

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11 hours ago, robosmith said:

What speech did Biden censor that wasn't FALSE disinformation?

He helped facilitate the censoring of the Hunter laptop story. It was a true story, Biden and his supporters did not want Americans to know about it.

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4 minutes ago, ironstone said:

He helped facilitate the censoring of the Hunter laptop story. It was a true story, Biden and his supporters did not want Americans to know about it.

It was UNVERIFIED in the beginning when NYP REFUSED to share the ILLEGALLY ACQUIRED CONTENTS that had UNVERIFIED CHAIN OF CUSTODY. AKA subject to TAMPERING.

What evidence do YOU have that Biden was involved IN ANY WAY?

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On 4/3/2024 at 11:54 AM, WestCanMan said:

You haven't explained anything, dummy.

You thought that what I said about the death rates was a base rate fallacy and it wasn't. 85% vaxed, 86% of deaths come from the vaxed. I never even said that the jabbed were dying at a higher rate than the unvaxed, they're just dying at the same rate as everyone else. 

Then you tried to say that "vaxed people were dying at the same rate but they were getting infected far more often", which isn't even a bonus because - if you're correct - that just means that they're getting sick more often to die at the same rate as the unvaxed. 

Dummy: the whole reason that we started jabbing people was to bring the number of deaths down. We jabbed 85% of our population and deaths went up by 30%. 

We jabbed 85% of our population and deaths went up by 30%. 

We jabbed 85% of our population and deaths went up by 30%. 

We jabbed 85% of our population and deaths went up by 30%. 

Do you get it?

And the excess deaths weren't among the unvaxed, 86% of them were vaxed. 

We jabbed 85% of our population and deaths went up by 30%, and the excess deaths weren't among the unvaxed: 86% of them were vaxed. 

Do you get it stupid? The jab was NOT a success here in Canada. Statista and our own Health Canada tried to massage the numbers to make it look like a success but it was not a success at all.

Stop blaming me. I didn't tell doctors to say that 30% more people died of covid in 2022. I didn't tell doctors that 86% of covid deaths here were among the multi-vaxed. Those are just facts that YOU have to learn to accept. 

We don't get access to vax rates of the people with serious underlying health issues here, so there's no way to determine if the jab protected sick people. And FYI age isn't the main factor in covid deaths, it's underlying health issues. 

People who are extremely elderly with underlying health issues are the prime targets of covid. If we had access to their vax rates and death rates we could go into more detail but we don't. 

At the very best, the jabs helped a little bit, but definitely not enough to justify forcing people to take it who were young and healthy enough to be safe from covid. 

I know you are hopeless with logic, but as you've been told many, many times. Efficacy--whether an intervention works or doesn't--is not measured in the number or percentage of a certain outcome overall. It's measured on a case basis. When situation A occurs, does intervention B increase, decrease or not affect the likelihood of outcome C.

Again, basic, basic logic. Since seat belts became mandatory, it's a fact that the number of automobile deaths has climbed every year. 20% more deaths every year! (Or whatever percentage.) Now, a statistically illiterate person might conclude from that simple observation that seat belts don't reduce the likelihood of death. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc. That's stupid though. To actually investigate that question you'd (at a minimum, in the simplest form) need to look at the number of deaths per accident with a seatbelt compared to the number of deaths per accident without a seatbelt. Which, of course, reveals that using a seat belt dramatically reduces the likelihood that one will die if they have a collision. 


You could measure a efficacy of the vaccine in terms of preventing (symptomatic) infection. It helps, but that's not the primary benefit.

You could measure the efficacy of a vaccine by the change in negative outcomes in cases of infection. And there we see over and over again, from populations around the world, that these vaccines made a dramatic difference--particularly against early variants--saving many lives. 

Even if the number of deaths goes up, one can still vastly improve one's chances to avoid severe outcomes by protecting oneself, whether through seat belts or vaccines.

 

 

If that's still too hard to understand, here's a visual aid. Sometimes deaths go up. Sometimes deaths go down. But regardless of trend, which line would any smart person choose to be on?

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2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

When you post a link that features this pic at the top, you have NO CREDIBILITY:

 
Anna Moneymaker / Getty Images
 
That is CLEAR evidence of PARTISAN HACKERY.

How about if I post all the evidence IN CAPS to raise it to the robosmith standard?

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20 minutes ago, ironstone said:

How about if I post all the evidence IN CAPS to raise it to the robosmith standard?

How about if you QUOTE any evidence here instead of posting naked PARTISAN HACK links?

If you don't, I'll know better than to click on your naked links in the future.

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On 4/2/2024 at 12:41 PM, robosmith said:

Yes, we know. You'd defend the devil himself if you thought he was serving your SHORT TERM INTERESTS. 🤮

 

You're serving ALL of Satan's interests, so you should know about all that. 

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10 minutes ago, Deluge said:

You're serving ALL of Satan's interests, so you should know about all that. 

Well you're the EXPERT on "ALL of Satan's interests" so you should know.

Except you DON'T KNOW what I'm doing unless YOUR BUDDY SATAN told you. LMAO

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4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Except YOU'RE LYING. I know NOTHING about your MYTHICAL SATAN except that it's a MYTH.

You're in his camp whether you admit it or not. EVERYTHING you stand for lines up perfectly with anti-Christianity. 

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32 minutes ago, Deluge said:

You're in his camp whether you admit it or not. EVERYTHING you stand for lines up perfectly with anti-Christianity. 

Far from it. You know nothing about "everything I stand for." 

And you're NO EXPERT on "Christianity," and you prove that everyday HERE.

HERE: "it is better to be quiet and thought a fool than to post here and remove all doubt." Learn it. Live it, DELUGINAL

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1 minute ago, robosmith said:

We know you don't because you call most here "pervert" despite your complete IGNORANCE.

Obviously Jesus didn't teach you that.

roboshill, did you know that "Accuser" means Satan in Hebrew? 

Notice how your finger is ALWAYS pointed at someone else? 

Are you seeing the connection? 

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20 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ya...I got jabbed twice so my pay cheques kept coming. I had a heart attack an 2 stents installed last fall. I know there's a good possibility that the jabs created the artery blockages.

I will never trust "the science" again.

I also had to get jabbed twice just so i could go visit my wife in a care home who was suffering from Alzheimer's. 

Those covid vaccine jabs may very well have caused your heart attack. It is well known that many people who took the jab had health complications right after taking the jab, and some even collapsed and died on the spot. 

The big pharma WEF globalists are responsible for what they have done to humanity. Sadly, those pos will no doubt get away with their committed crimes against humanity. The Marxist pro-globalist dictator in Ottawa was a part of this crime against humanity. Why do these people always get away with what they are doing to humanity pretty much every day? Shameful. ☹️

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16 hours ago, robosmith said:

I'm very happy to be vaxxed and never got COVID. 

My friend's brother was lucky to survive 2 weeks on a ventilator in the ICU early in the pandemic before the vax.

Only 20% survived that ordeal.

Take my advice and have the stones and brains to make a logical and informed rebuttal instead of ^childish insults, IF YOU CAN. LMAO

I know of many people who did not get vaxxed, and they never got covid. So, what's you point, bozo? 

If you have enough brain cells, that could fit on the head of a needle, it would be a bloody miracle. 😁

 

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