300 Muslim organizations demonstrate why Canada should end immigration from Muslim countries

[Zeitgeist]

8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

not sure how you came to that conclusion

since I don't believe in Muhammad at all

I simply point out that the Muslims actually embrace the New Testament in every respect except one

as opposed to the Jews, and the godless atheist Communists who rule here

the Jews denying the New Testament

while the Communists seek to kill us all as Kulaks

hence, if I have to choose between, why would I condemn the Muslims whom are the closest to my faith ?

love thine enemies,  Isa commands, but are the Muslims really my worst enemies ?

perhaps they are my allies in the end

I think you had it right when you said that we are all individuals with sacred souls.  Everyone is judged before God on their own merits, and by God’s grace redeemed. No person can judge anyone, as no one knows what’s in another person’s heart.  As a Christian I believe that we’re all created in God’s image.  We have consciences, Commandments, and we face temptation and must make choices.  That’s where we look to religion and philosophy for guidance, as science is ethically neutral.  I can only choose what I imagine to be the best course of action based on what I know, which is limited, as I’m imperfect.

Edited March 2, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

16 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think you had it right when you said that we are all individuals with sacred souls.  Everyone is judged before God on their own merits, and by God’s grace redeemed. No person can judge anyone, as no one knows what’s in another person’s heart.  As a Christian I believe that we’re all created in God’s image.  We have consciences, Commandments, and we face temptation and must make choices.  That’s where we look to religion and philosophy for guidance, as science is ethically neutral.  I can only choose what I imagine to be the best course of action based on what I know, which is limited, as I’m imperfect.

the Western world itself has fallen to Communist traitors

thus this has become a scorched earth campaign

unleash the Mujaheddin upon the Bolsheviks therein

let Canadian treason burn in a fire of its own making

in the wrath of the Old Testament

as tho the Jews may reject Jesus

I do not reject Yahweh in turn

Adonai

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

but the Muslims do not deny the New Testament

they embrace it

they worship Jesus too

I am not convinced of that.  From what I've read, they believe Jesus was just another prophet, not the Son of God and not God.  Saying Jesus is God would definitely go against their religion of Islam.  They have only their one God they call Allah.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

but the Muslims do not deny the New Testament

they embrace it

they worship Jesus too

far more than the vast majority of  Westerners now

You need to look into that. I don't think so.

[Dougie93]

8 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I am not convinced of that.  From what I've read, they believe Jesus was just another prophet, not the Son of God and not God.  Saying Jesus is God would definitely go against their religion of Islam.  They have only their one God they call Allah.

how are they worse than the Romanists tho ?

what is the difference between Jihadists and Fenians ?

[Zeitgeist]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

how are they worse than the Romanists tho ?

what is the difference between Jihadists and Fenians ?

In theory, Protestants broke away from the Church.  Anyway I understand the criticism of popery and corruption within the Vatican.  The problem is always that people with flaws do bad stuff within religious organizations.  

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

On this I’m going to disagree a bit.  Islam was founded as an expansionist militarized movement.  It has had very peaceful manifestations for prolonged periods in many parts of the world,

The only time Muslim nations have been at peace has been when their non-neighbors were too strong for them to attack. And the only time they're at peace within a single state is when they're in charge or too small a minority to demand special rules and considerations of the majority (else you get terrorism). 

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Again, Canada’s constitution allows for religious expression, and I oppose Quebec’s suppression of religious garb in public servant jobs and education.  Just remember that Muslims in Canada today more actively defend and practice their faith than Canadian Christians. Their birth rate is actually positive, and along with Indigenous, are the fastest growing populations in Canada, which is poised at the current immigration rate to become a Muslim-dominated country.

Uhm, no it's not. Most of our immigrants now are Indian and Chinese. So the fastest growing religion in Canada is Hindu.

[Zeitgeist]

14 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

The only time Muslim nations have been at peace has been when their non-neighbors were too strong for them to attack. And the only time they're at peace within a single state is when they're in charge or too small a minority to demand special rules and considerations of the majority (else you get terrorism). 

Uhm, no it's not. Most of our immigrants now are Indian and Chinese. So the fastest growing religion in Canada is Hindu.

The fastest growing religion worldwide is Islam. 

[Dougie93]

20 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The fastest growing religion worldwide is Islam. 

Christians were hardly the majority in first century Rome

yet first He went to conquer Rome

then when a protest was nailed to the door of All Saints Church at Wittenberg, 31 October 1517

He went on to conquer the world

Anglo-American Scots-Irish Protestant Empire of Liberty

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

You need to look into that. I don't think so.

well of course the Muslims have their own version of events

wherein Jesus survives the crucifixion and goes on the preach in India

but is that worse than the Jews who refuse to acknowledge Jesus at all ?

is that worse than the Communists who would mass murder anyone who believes in God at all ?

Canada is a godless atheist Communist lunatic asylum

so why would I try to drive the Muslims out to save that ?

[blackbird]

39 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

well of course the Muslims have their own version of events

wherein Jesus survives the crucifixion and goes on the preach in India

but is that worse than the Jews who refuse to acknowledge Jesus at all ?

is that worse than the Communists who would mass murder anyone who believes in God at all ?

Canada is a godless atheist Communist lunatic asylum

so why would I try to drive the Muslims out to save that ?

Yes, the world is a fallen, corrupt place.  No you don't need to try to drive Muslims out.  They are no worse than any other group you mentioned.  We cannot change the world anyway.  It is so far gone though.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

Christians were hardly the majority in first century Rome

yet first He went to conquer Rome

then when a protest was nailed to the door of All Saints Church at Wittenberg, 31 October 1517

He went on to conquer the world

Anglo-American Scots-Irish Protestant Empire of Liberty

Awesome!

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

  We cannot change the world anyway.  It is so far gone though.

a privilege to live in Biblical times

to walk with the Nazarene through a pagan wilderness of thorns

upon the road to Calvary Hill at Golgotha

souls are forged by crucible therein

[Iceni warrior]

22 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada is more of an absolute monarchy than you think

when you add up all the mechanisms in the Constitution Act which allow for impunity

 it's really just a question of who has Parliamentary Supremacy

but otherwise, the state is largely unrestrained in Canada

so long as you appoint your cronies to the Judiciary

frankly, George III would be pleased

What film is that?

[Dougie93]

16 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

What film is that?

no particular film, just a music video

God Save The King, British North American,  United Empire Loyalist version

House of Hanover, God save King George

originally written in honour of George II in 1745

Nec Aspera Terrent

[Iceni warrior]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

no particular film, just a music video

God save the King, British North American,  United Empire Loyalist version

House of Hanover, God save King George

originally written in honour of George II in 1745

With Glenda Jackson?

It must have been clips from an existing movie.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

With Glenda Jackson?

It must have been clips from an existing movie.

oh indeed, it's an amalgam of clips in the video

to include Barry Lyndon by Kubrick

masterpiece

[Iceni warrior]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

oh indeed, it's an amalgam of clips in the video

to include Barry Lyndon by Kubrick

masterpiece

Ah OK, that makes sense.

I just went through Glenda Jackson's film history looking for a film about George II.

 

[Dougie93]

6 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

Ah OK, that makes sense.

I just went through Glenda Jackson's film history looking for a film about George II.

 

I don't think that's Genda Jackson actually

pretty sure that's Dame Helen Mirren in The Madness of King George

playing Qieen Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, wife to HM King George III

[Iceni warrior]

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I don't think that's Genda Jackson actually

pretty sure that's Dame Helen Mirren in The Madness of King George

playing Qieen Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, wife to HM King George III

Yes, you are right. It is Helen Mirren. 

 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Iceni warrior said:

Yes, you are right.

Loyalist Orangemen of Upper Canada

more British than the British themselves

[Iceni warrior]

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Loyalist Orangemen of Upper Canada

more British than the British themselves

Meh, you don't even know the rules of cricket.

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

Meh, you don't even know the rules of cricket.

Cricket is English not British

British is not a race, British is not a place

merely a system of governance called Parliamentary Supremacy

founded by William Prince of Orange in 1690

[Iceni warrior]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Cricket is English not British

British is not a race, British is not a place

merely a system of governance called Parliamentary Supremacy

founded by William Prince of Orange in 1690

Bloody Germans.

They can't play cricket either.

[Dougie93]

Just now, Iceni warrior said:

Bloody Germans.

no, King Billy was a Dutchman

Great Britain did not become German until George i founded the House of Hanover on 1 August 1714