Carbon Tax: Define How It Works -- IF You Can, That Is

[Eddy]

Asking around & listening to media reports, I have come to the singular conclusion here that absolutely nobody in the country of Canada has so much as even an inkling of how this Great White Hope -- the Carbon Tax -- is supposed to work...not even the perpetrators who inflicted this exercise in futility onto us all, the Liberal party of Canada.

First-off, just how big is my specific household's carbon footprint anyway, that the feds see fit to send me a rebate cheque every few months...? I don't recall greeting any civil servant carbon emissions inspector knocking on my front door (unless I just wasn't at home at the time, of course).

Secondly, how does my financial support help in removing that 1.5%(!) of global carbon emissions that are attributable to this country? Has the Canadian version of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers strategically placed mechanical carbon scrubbers-filters all across the landscape to capture & remove said carbon...? I don't believe that any were erected here in our area of the land...were some placed in your neighbourhood, maybe?

So just what really & truly gives here, anyway -- beyond giving  "gainful employment(!)" to a part of that 40% increase of Canadian civil servants since Trudeau got elected in 2015...?

(So what's a few hundred -- thousands, even -- of additional paper-shufflers between friends anyway, right?).

 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Eddy said:

Asking around & listening to media reports, I have come to the singular conclusion here that absolutely nobody in the country of Canada has so much as even an inkling of how this Great White Hope -- the Carbon Tax -- is supposed to work...not even the perpetrators who inflicted this exercise in futility onto us all, the Liberal party of Canada.

CO2 is an 'unpriced externality'

Let Mr. Musk explain it: 

 

[Eddy]

After that flash of pontificating brilliance "Elon Musk-style", now I understand why he paid a meagre $45 billion for Twitter...

[blackbird]

Carbon tax is the biggest scam in history after the man-made climate change scam.  Orchestrated by the globalist, elites, of the U.N. to gain more control and power over everyone.

[Eddy]

Here in Canada is seems to be a deliberately pre-planned way to reign-in any potential benefit whatsoever to the country that might be attained via development of our natural resources.

[Michael Hardner]

25 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Carbon tax is the biggest scam in history after the man-made climate change scam.  Orchestrated by the globalist, elites, of the U.N. to gain more control and power over everyone.

These are conspiracy theories only.

You can't support open democracy and simultaneously think that it's all a scam.

7 minutes ago, Eddy said:

Here in Canada is seems to be a deliberately pre-planned way to reign-in any potential benefit whatsoever to the country that might be attained via development of our natural resources.

Are you saying there are people who have an agenda to hurt our domestic economy? And these are onshore people?

🤔

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Eddy said:

Asking around & listening to media reports, I have come to the singular conclusion here that absolutely nobody in the country of Canada has so much as even an inkling of how this Great White Hope -- the Carbon Tax -- is supposed to work...not even the perpetrators who inflicted this exercise in futility onto us all, the Liberal party of Canada.

Actually it was Stephen Harper who inflicted it on us so perhaps you should ask him.

https://energynow.ca/2016/12/brief-history-canadian-carbon-tax/?amp

[Eddy]

"...Are you saying there are people who have an agenda to hurt our domestic economy? And these are onshore people...?"

PMO, I'm looking right at you.

[Michael Hardner]

27 minutes ago, Eddy said:

"...Are you saying there are people who have an agenda to hurt our domestic economy? And these are onshore people...?"

PMO, I'm looking right at you.

So they want to destroy the economy... and this is in their interest, to do this.

It's almost as though it would be better to have Putin as a leader... 🤫

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Actually it was Stephen Harper who inflicted it on us so perhaps you should ask him.

https://energynow.ca/2016/12/brief-history-canadian-carbon-tax/?amp

Umm - says he didn't do it. Your own cite says he didnt' impliment it.

LOL - why are you guys on the left so dumb that you keep posting cites that prove you're wrong?

[Eddy]

"...It's almost as though it would be better to have Putin as a leader..."

Stick around. The way things are happening south of us, that day might come sooner than you think -- if not here, then there.

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

These are conspiracy theories only.

You can't support open democracy and simultaneously think that it's all a scam.

No, I don't think it is a conspiracy theory.  The evidence or proof that the U.N. is the driving force behind it is demonstrated by what the U.N. itself has been saying all along.  They are climate alarmists that have been fear-mongering continuously. Trudeau and the Liberals have been blindly following them all along too.  They have become climate extremists and are doing great harm to the country.

[Aristides]

Like every other tax, it takes money from some people and gives it to others.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Your own cite says he didnt' impliment it.

And neither did I by golly!

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And neither did I by golly!

You did actually:

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Actually it was Stephen Harper who inflicted it on us

No, he didn't inflict it upon us.

LOL - you can't even keep your lies straight for half a thread   

[eyeball]

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, he didn't inflict it upon us.

It was certainly his idea no matter how it might have mutated since. Suck it up and own it.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

It was certainly his idea no matter how it might have mutated since. Suck it up and own it.

No it wasn't his idea. In fact as i recall it wasn't a canadian idea originally. And as your own source notes both the cpc and liberals ran on investigating putting it in place.

Again - you gotta lie, because the truth doesnt' serve your agenda

Conservatives (as well as liberals) bought into the idea early on because the numbers and modelling seemed to work out and if it worked as originally modelled it would have  been a good idae.  But very quickly it was realized that the energy costs were simply not elastic enough - no matter what people had to heat their homes and such.  So they dropped it realizing all it would be would be a tax on everything and do nothing for the environment.

THe liberals realized the same thing and jumped on it   They wanted a new tax on everything to line their pockets and this was perfect - people would think they were saving the environment and happily shovel more cash into the liberals pockets.

And it was the libs that gave us the tax.

[eyeball]

32 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And as your own source notes both the cpc and liberals ran on investigating putting it in place

After conservatives in Alberta implemented it in 2007. The federal CPC and Liberals both campaigned on it because they could see the same writing on the wall - they both knew something had to be done. 

The intent of the OP is clear enough. He thinks the idea of pricing and or taxing carbon just suddenly came into existence when Trudeau did. You're simply pandering to the same sentiment along with all the other woke commie left-lib nonsense you file your grievances under.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

After conservatives in Alberta implemented it in 2007.

No - that was an output levy.  Technically a tax on  'carbon' but not a carbon tax.

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The intent of the OP is clear enough. He thinks the idea of pricing and or taxing carbon just suddenly came into existence when Trudeau did.

Eddy is an effing bot. THe language is a giveaway. At best a human may occasionally provide some input but it slips up in little ways that are a giveaway.  Be smarter than the bot.

[herbie]

So figure it out Eddy.
If you just simply won't change your habits it will cost you more and more and more. Complain louder and louder and call people stupid, that always gets children what they want.

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, herbie said:

So figure it out Eddy.
If you just simply won't change your habits it will cost you more and more and more. Complain louder and louder and call people stupid, that always gets children what they want.

For the last time - eddy is a bot. What is wrong with you people?  You are literally giving life advice to software, which will encourage it to interact with the forum more and flood us with simple ai generated nonsense.   We have enough of that with you around thank you very much.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Eddy is an effing bot. THe language is a giveaway. At best a human may occasionally provide some input but it slips up in little ways that are a giveaway.  Be smarter than the bot.

Sez the guy supporting him. LMAO!

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sez the guy supporting him. LMAO!

Correcting your mistakes isn't supporting eddy.  Yeash - if that were the case i'd be literally supporting everyone on this forum every time i spoke to you.  

[Gaétan]

The scientists who say the truth are the scientist who don't make money lying

[Michael Hardner]

9 hours ago, eyeball said:

Sez the guy supporting him. LMAO!

But in defense of the fox... robots ARE smart... 🤓

5 hours ago, Gaétan said:

The scientists who say the truth are the scientist who don't make money lying

That's any scientist who earns a university salary and doesn't work for an economic think tank or a propaganda arm like The Heritage Fund.