Colorado Supreme Court rules insurrectionist Trump ineligible

[Yakuda]

15 hours ago, robosmith said:

A gun purchase may be evidence, but not proof of INTENT.

And what you've cited is NOT JUST the gun purchase, but an actual recording of a convo which when COMBINED with the purchase, may be enough evidence to prove INTENT.

Such recordings are fairly rare because getting them requires MORE EVIDENCE in advance.

Yes it does if it can be shown to advance the conspiracy. The fact remains murder does not need to be attempted to convict someone of conspiracy to murder. By definition a conspiracy is merely a plan to do something. If some attempts to kill someone that's attempted murder not conspiracy. Wake up. 

[Legato]

On 1/8/2024 at 5:01 PM, robosmith said:

You're wrong. Trump was found, by a preponderance of the evidence, guilty of INSURRECTION by the Co SC.

NOT a criminal trial, ONLY a civil finding is required to remove HIS PRIVILEGE of holding OFFICE. No one has a RIGHT to hold office when they don't satisfy the QUALIFICATIONS.

 

The Constitution Prohibits Trump From Ever Being President Again

IOW, your amateur legal eagle OPINIONS, MEAN NOTHING.

 

 

 

If Trump was charged with inciting an erection, could not that be construed as a good thing. I'm sure there are many who would agree.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

He really should arrest himself after that.

Don't say that - the handcuffs get him all excited.

Maybe we could get one of his illegal immigrant slave farm labourers to do it?

20 hours ago, robosmith said:

You initially said NO ONE was convicted of INSURRECTION, when many have been convicted of seditious conspiracy.

Which is not insurrection.  SO you agree with him as well i take it? Or are you still arresting yourself  

3 hours ago, Legato said:

If Trump was charged with inciting an erection, could not that be construed as a good thing. I'm sure there are many who would agree.

Depends how much they were paid to incite it i believe. Stormy did fairly well

[Rebound]

On 1/11/2024 at 9:13 AM, Legato said:

If Trump was charged with inciting an erection, could not that be construed as a good thing. I'm sure there are many who would agree.

I get it. You pretend you’re a lawyer. 

Trump’s hero, Al Capone, was convicted for tax fraud.  Are you going to tell us that Al Capone was a good man?  No, he ordered murders.  But criminals are criminals.  They break lots of laws, lots of times.  So tax evasion is what they managed to convict him him for. 
 

Jack Smith chose to indict Trump on just four charges related to January 6, because he didn’t want a case that would drag on for years. He picked the low hanging fruit which was most likely to get a conviction. That’s how the law works. 
 

You guys are all a bunch of liars. January 6 was an effort to keep Trump in office. It was organized by Donald Trump, based on a Big Lie. The election was not stolen; no matter how many times Trump says. He lost. And if there was fraud, there are legal ways to get recounts, audits, investigations, and lawsuits. And Trump had them all and lost. You don’t get to incite a riot and threaten the lives of Congressmen because you lose your election. It was criminal and over 200 people are in prison because of it.   

Edited January 13, 2024 by Rebound

[Nationalist]

15 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I get it. You pretend you’re a lawyer. 

Trump’s hero, Al Capone, was convicted for tax fraud.  Are you going to tell us that Al Capone was a good man?  No, he ordered murders.  But criminals are criminals.  They break lots of laws, lots of times.  So tax evasion is what they managed to convict him him for. 
 

Jack Smith chose to indict Trump on just four charges related to January 6, because he didn’t want a case that would drag on for years. He picked the low hanging fruit which was most likely to get a conviction. That’s how the law works. 
 

You guys are all a bunch of liars. January 6 was an effort to keep Trump in office. It was organized by Donald Trump, based on a Big Lie. The election was not stolen; no matter how many times Trump says. He lost. And if there was fraud, there are legal ways to get recounts, audits, investigations, and lawsuits. And Trump had them all and lost. You don’t get to incite a riot and threaten the lives of Congressmen because you lose your election. It was criminal and over 200 people are in prison because of it.   

Trump's hero is Al Capone? Cite?

You sure do set yourself up for being wrong and for disappointment on a regular basis.

Perhaps you should try reality for a change?

[Rebound]

10 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Trump's hero is Al Capone? Cite?

You sure do set yourself up for being wrong and for disappointment on a regular basis.

Perhaps you should try reality for a change?

Trump has been frequently mentioning Al Capone in his recent speeches.  Here’s one:

”Al Capone, he was one of the greatest of all time…” (1:45 in the linked video).

At 2:42 in the video, Trump states that he will abuse power and become a dictator the first day he’s elected President. 
 

I know you’re gonna do your little MAGA bullshlt dance and claim  that you have a super-power which lets you know what Trump really meant.  But he said what he said, and when a man says Al Capone was one of the greatest of all time and that he will be a dictator and abuse his power starting on the first day of his Presidency… I believe that. Cause when someone tells you he’s the devil, believe it  

https://youtu.be/AHhLlAvXp9w?si=020gf--_YKhCAn9s
 

[Nationalist]

9 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Trump has been frequently mentioning Al Capone in his recent speeches.  Here’s one:

”Al Capone, he was one of the greatest of all time…” (1:45 in the linked video).

At 2:42 in the video, Trump states that he will abuse power and become a dictator the first day he’s elected President. 
 

I know you’re gonna do your little MAGA bullshlt dance and claim  that you have a super-power which lets you know what Trump really meant.  But he said what he said, and when a man says Al Capone was one of the greatest of all time and that he will be a dictator and abuse his power starting on the first day of his Presidency… I believe that. Cause when someone tells you he’s the devil, believe it  

https://youtu.be/AHhLlAvXp9w?si=020gf--_YKhCAn9s
 

You really should engage in the whole truth. I know, I know...the whole truth is rather uncomfortable for you but...

"Only on day one. I'm gonna close the border and drill baby drill."

Now...don't you look the fool.

BTW...Capone was one of the greatest criminals of all time. So much so, that the public and politicians actually protected him and the feds had to use tax evasion to shut him down. These are truths. Does that acknowledgement make Capone Trump's hero? Of course not. The idea is absurd and reaks of desperation.

[Rebound]

11 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

You really should engage in the whole truth. I know, I know...the whole truth is rather uncomfortable for you but...

"Only on day one. I'm gonna close the border and drill baby drill."

Now...don't you look the fool.

BTW...Capone was one of the greatest criminals of all time. So much so, that the public and politicians actually protected him and the feds had to use tax evasion to shut him down. These are truths. Does that acknowledgement make Capone Trump's hero? Of course not. The idea is absurd and reaks of desperation.

No, not one bit. You are lying and you know it. 
 

Let’s start with this: People are legitimately concerned that the twice-impeached, four-time criminal indictee will break the law and abuse his power.  So Hannity handed Trump a softball question: “You aren’t going to abuse your power, right?” And the man said that he will.  That is what he said. He’s the only Presidential candidate who’s ever run for office threatening to jail his opponent. He has clearly said that he will pardon the Jan 6 criminals. He said he will seek revenge over his political rivals. No amount of your mis-quoting and lying changes any of that. Pick a different candidate; one who can do the job without breaking the law 91 times.  

Edited January 13, 2024 by Rebound

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, Rebound said:

No, not one bit. You are lying and you know it. 
 

Let’s start with this: People are legitimately concerned that the twice-impeached, four-time criminal indictee will break the law and abuse his power.  So Hannity handed Trump a softball question: “You aren’t going to abuse your power, right?” And the man said that he will.  That is what he said. He’s the only Presidential candidate who’s ever run for office threatening to jail his opponent. He has clearly said that he will pardon the Jan 6 criminals. He said he will seek revenge over his political rivals. No amount of your mis-quoting and lying changes any of that. Pick a different candidate; one who can do the job without breaking the law 91 times.  

Lol...yes...and his answer just drives you right off the cliff. Poor Libbie...you been played...yet again.

Are you scared for your lyin' Dumbocrats? Scared the big bad Trump will level the playing field?

GOOD!

It will be wonderful to watch karma in action.

Edited January 13, 2024 by Nationalist

[Rebound]

On 1/11/2024 at 9:13 AM, Legato said:

If Trump was charged with inciting an erection, could not that be construed as a good thing. I'm sure there are many who would agree.

Why can’t the sonofabich stop his criminal behavior and respectfully do the job? He regularly incites political violence. He’s done it at several rallies and he dog whistles political violence towards prosecutors and judges routinely.  He is absolutely unsuited for the job. 

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

I get it. You pretend you’re a lawyer. 

Trump’s hero, Al Capone, was convicted for tax fraud.  Are you going to tell us that Al Capone was a good man?  No, he ordered murders.  But criminals are criminals.  They break lots of laws, lots of times.  So tax evasion is what they managed to convict him him for. 
 

Jack Smith chose to indict Trump on just four charges related to January 6, because he didn’t want a case that would drag on for years. He picked the low hanging fruit which was most likely to get a conviction. That’s how the law works. 
 

You guys are all a bunch of liars. January 6 was an effort to keep Trump in office. It was organized by Donald Trump, based on a Big Lie. The election was not stolen; no matter how many times Trump says. He lost. And if there was fraud, there are legal ways to get recounts, audits, investigations, and lawsuits. And Trump had them all and lost. You don’t get to incite a riot and threaten the lives of Congressmen because you lose your election. It was criminal and over 200 people are in prison because of it.   

Oh man LOL I will post it again...

If Trump was charged with inciting an erection, could not that be construed as a good thing. I'm sure there are many who would agree.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

I get it. You pretend you’re a lawyer. 

 

ROFLMAO!!!!! Holy crap -  that level of irony is so dense it's liable to collapse and form a black hole of stupid

Also you missed his joke.  Go back an read what he wrote again, slowly.   

2 hours ago, Legato said:

Oh man LOL I will post it again...

If Trump was charged with inciting an erection, could not that be construed as a good thing. I'm sure there are many who would agree.

 

Edited January 13, 2024 by CdnFox

[robosmith]

On 1/10/2024 at 4:03 PM, Yakuda said:

Merely pointing out that planning to commit a crime isn't the same as committing the crime. 

Actually planning to commit a crime with someone else is the crime of conspiracy, IF there is strong enough evidence of INTENT, instead of just fantasizing.

If they were book, movie or TV writers, that could be evidence countering intent.

[robosmith]

On 1/11/2024 at 8:10 AM, Yakuda said:

Yes it does if it can be shown to advance the conspiracy. The fact remains murder does not need to be attempted to convict someone of conspiracy to murder. By definition a conspiracy is merely a plan to do something. If some attempts to kill someone that's attempted murder not conspiracy. Wake up. 

If they plan the murder with someone else, it is ALSO conspiracy. The two are NOT mutually exclusive. 

For conspiracy, INTENT needs to be PROVEN. Same for MURDER. It can be an ACCIDENT OR SELF DEFENSE which ARE  VALID DEFENSES.

Evidence for conspiracy tends to invalidate accident or self defense defenses.

[robosmith]

On 1/13/2024 at 10:11 AM, Nationalist said:

Trump's hero is Al Capone? Cite?

You sure do set yourself up for being wrong and for disappointment on a regular basis.

Perhaps you should try reality for a change?

Perhaps you should stop pretending your OPINIONS are "reality," and not just something you heard and liked on FOS LIES.

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Perhaps you should stop pretending your OPINIONS are "reality," and not just something you heard and liked on FOS LIES.

Oh I don't know...robo. Seems I'm proven correct quite a bit more often than say...you.

You can't see the forest for the trees. You just jump on any wagon and ride it right off the cliff.

And what is it with you and FOX? Good lord man. You say the same thing every 3rd post.

"FOS LIES...FOS LIES....AHHH...FOS LIES!!!"

Dude...nobody believes everything they hear on cable news. I mean...if a person did, they'd come off like...like...

Well robo...like you unfortunately. 

[robosmith]

10 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Oh I don't know...robo. Seems I'm proven correct quite a bit more often than say...you.

You can't see the forest for the trees. You just jump on any wagon and ride it right off the cliff.

And what is it with you and FOX? Good lord man. You say the same thing every 3rd post.

"FOS LIES...FOS LIES....AHHH...FOS LIES!!!"

Dude...nobody believes everything they hear on cable news. I mean...if a person did, they'd come off like...like...

Well robo...like you unfortunately. 

Unlike you and your MAGA CULT, I continually post EVIDENCE from MULTIPLE SOURCES.

Since you never post any, and your posts ALWAYS sound like FOS LIES, the probability is that's where you get YOUR OPINIONS.

We all know that's where most of the RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA is found. That and new-smacks or OANN.

[robosmith]

Most Americans Willing to See Trump Disqualified

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A new ABC/Ipsos poll finds that, by a narrow 49% to 46% margin, Americans say they support the Colorado and Maine decisions to boot Donald Trump out of the race under the 14th Amendment’s insurrection clause.

Overall, 56% of people say they’re willing to see him disqualified. 

AKA 56% are a hard NO on voting for Trump. LMAO

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Most Americans Willing to See Trump Disqualified

AKA 56% are a hard NO on voting for Trump. LMAO

Sure - about half of people are democrats and democrats dont' believe in democracy.