Pierre Poilievre Press Conference

[Queenmandy85]

A few minutes ago, Mr. Poilievre said his government will bring in SMR's to lower emissions.  I am just glad we are finally going to move on this. It is just common sense.

Edited November 13, 2023 by Queenmandy85

[CdnFox]

The devil is always in the details but that sounds promising

[Michael Hardner]

What are SMR's please, for the thread...

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said:

A few minutes ago, Mr. Poilievre said his government will bring in SMR's to lower emissions.  I am just glad we are finally going to move on this. It is just common sense.

Ok found it.

 

SMALL MODULAR REACTORS.

 

I haven't heard about this, but sounds great.  Is Poilievre planning to expand the existing program?

https://smractionplan.ca/

Edited November 13, 2023 by Michael Hardner

[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

A few minutes ago, Mr. Poilievre said his government will bring in SMR's to lower emissions.  I am just glad we are finally going to move on this. It is just common sense.

A few minutes ago? Where?

Lower emissions? Of what"?

54 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ok found it.

 

SMALL MODULAR REACTORS.

 

I haven't heard about this, but sounds great.  Is Poilievre planning to expand the existing program?

https://smractionplan.ca/

This will happen in what, 10, 20 or more years?

This will bring about the anti nuke crowds again?   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-nuclear_movement

This would be a major announcement, not just table talk. I want to see and hear what Poilievre has to actually say.

[TreeBeard]

SMRs will be here once the USA companies, through huge  government subsidies, manage to build them.  PP won’t have a hand in their development.  But, maybe he’ll fund them with Bitcoin?  So far, SMRs are science fiction. 
 

https://www.science.org/content/article/deal-build-pint-size-nuclear-reactors-canceled
…a coalition of community-owned power systems in seven western states, withdrew from a deal to build the plant, designed by NuScale Power, because too few members agreed to buy into it. The project, subsidized by the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE), sought to revive the moribund U.S. nuclear industry, but its cost had more than doubled to $9.3 billion.

13 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I want to see and hear what Poilievre has to actually say.

What can he say, other than “we’ll be on the forefront of being a Bitcoin…. Errr…. SMR nation”. 

[CdnFox]

29 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

SMRs will be here once the USA companies, through huge  government subsidies, manage to build them.  PP won’t have a hand in their development.  But, maybe he’ll fund them with Bitcoin?  So far, SMRs are science fiction. 
 

https://www.science.org/content/article/deal-build-pint-size-nuclear-reactors-canceled
…a coalition of community-owned power systems in seven western states, withdrew from a deal to build the plant, designed by NuScale Power, because too few members agreed to buy into it. The project, subsidized by the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE), sought to revive the moribund U.S. nuclear industry, but its cost had more than doubled to $9.3 billion.

What can he say, other than “we’ll be on the forefront of being a Bitcoin…. Errr…. SMR nation”. 

We already make and develop them.

My My how the PP haters are coming out of the woodwork over this

A few provinces are already moving in this direction , it would be nice to see that industry in canada grow further. It encourages others to buy our products.  And SMR's are massive improvements over old style reactors.  I think he's already talked positively about pushing these in the past tho .

[ExFlyer]

38 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

We already make and develop them.

My My how the PP haters are coming out of the woodwork over this

A few provinces are already moving in this direction , it would be nice to see that industry in canada grow further. It encourages others to buy our products.  And SMR's are massive improvements over old style reactors.  I think he's already talked positively about pushing these in the past tho .

Where do we make them? Who is using them in Canada? Yes, there is a plan but, plans are only papers sitting in an archive somewhere.

What PP haters? The question was and is when did PP say this? Where did he say this What was the context? A poster making a unconfirmed statement does not make it a fact.

Ontario and OPG are planning, not moving  in  any direction. What other provinces? Plans are just paper exercises.

What industry??

Before you go off in your usual direction of calling names and everyone is a liar, these are valid questions that you seem to know answers to..

 

Edited November 13, 2023 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Where do we make them? Who is using them in Canada? Yes, there is a plan but, plans are only papers sitting in an archive somewhere.

Alberta Sask, new brunswick and ontario are proceeding with them. They went in on it joint to make it worth it to finish development and deploy them.  The very first version of a new reactor is only 2-3 years away as you can see below.

From the smr strategic planning joint document between the provices produced last year,

Technology readiness: Canada’s early adoption of SMRs would position the nation as a world-
leader in new nuclear innovation and a global SMR technology hub. Canada could realize a
significant share of the SMR market, creating new economic and job growth through three
streams of SMR development:
• Stream 1 – a grid-scale SMR project of 300 megawatts (MW) constructed at the Darlington
nuclear site in Ontario by 2028. Subsequent units in Saskatchewan would follow, with the
first SMR projected to be in service in 2034.
• Stream 2 – two fourth-generation, advanced SMRs that would be developed in New
Brunswick. ARC Clean Energy is targeting to be fully operational at the Point Lepreau nuclear
site by 2029, and Moltex Energy will have both its spent fuel recovery system and reactor in
operation by the early 2030s, also at the Point Lepreau site.
A Strategic Plan for the Deployment of Small Modular Reactors | 4
• Stream 3 – a new class of micro-SMRs designed primarily to replace the use of diesel in
remote communities and mines. A five-MW gas-cooled demonstration project is under way
at Chalk River, Ontario, with plans to be in service by 2026.
Reg

 

 

[ExFlyer]

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Alberta Sask, new brunswick and ontario are proceeding with them. They went in on it joint to make it worth it to finish development and deploy them.  The very first version of a new reactor is only 2-3 years away as you can see below.

From the smr strategic planning joint document between the provices produced last year,

Technology readiness: Canada’s early adoption of SMRs would position the nation as a world-
leader in new nuclear innovation and a global SMR technology hub. Canada could realize a
significant share of the SMR market, creating new economic and job growth through three
streams of SMR development:
• Stream 1 – a grid-scale SMR project of 300 megawatts (MW) constructed at the Darlington
nuclear site in Ontario by 2028. Subsequent units in Saskatchewan would follow, with the
first SMR projected to be in service in 2034.
• Stream 2 – two fourth-generation, advanced SMRs that would be developed in New
Brunswick. ARC Clean Energy is targeting to be fully operational at the Point Lepreau nuclear
site by 2029, and Moltex Energy will have both its spent fuel recovery system and reactor in
operation by the early 2030s, also at the Point Lepreau site.
A Strategic Plan for the Deployment of Small Modular Reactors | 4
• Stream 3 – a new class of micro-SMRs designed primarily to replace the use of diesel in
remote communities and mines. A five-MW gas-cooled demonstration project is under way
at Chalk River, Ontario, with plans to be in service by 2026.
Reg

 

 

So, bottom line, lots of plans but no construction.

No shovels in the ground. No designs. No permits. No environmental and other required studies. No public consultations? No funding.

Lots of plans but....nothing firm. Can't even say thetre are promises....just talk.

Edited November 13, 2023 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

So, bottom line, lots of plans but no construction.

It literally notes the chalk river plant is under construction.

Quote

No shovels in the ground. No designs. No permits. No environmental and other required studies. No public consultations? No funding.

Yes- there are as noted above.

Quote

Lots of plans but....nothing firm. Can't even say thetre are promises....just talk.

I see you're still not out of your stupid phase yet.  Could you hurry that up, i think we all want sane ExFlyer back.

[Queenmandy85]

You can watch it on You Tube. Just search:

LIVE: Today I launch a campaign for Bill C-234 to take Trudeau’s carbon tax off farmers & food.

He was in Vancouver. I saw it on the CBC News Network.

Edited November 14, 2023 by Queenmandy85

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It literally notes the chalk river plant is under construction.

Yes- there are as noted above.

I see you're still not out of your stupid phase yet.  Could you hurry that up, i think we all want sane ExFlyer back.

"Chalk River, ON – May 12, 2023 – Atomic Energy of Canada Limited (AECL), Canadian Nuclear Laboratories (CNL) and Global First Power (GFP) are pleased to announce that GFP has selected a location at the Chalk River Laboratories to site its proposed Micro-Modular™ Reactor (MMR®) project. "   https://www.cnl.ca/aecl-cnl-and-global-first-power-unveil-the-site-of-gfps-proposed-small-modular-reactor-at-the-chalk-river-laboratories/

"Global First Power has begun the licencing process and an Environmental Assessment for a demonstration reactor at the Chalk River campus in presently underway."  https://www.cnl.ca/aecl-cnl-and-global-first-power-unveil-the-site-of-gfps-proposed-small-modular-reactor-at-the-chalk-river-laboratories/

Not stupid phase, just critical phase.

[OftenWrong]

17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ok found it.

 

SMALL MODULAR REACTORS.

 

I haven't heard about this, but sounds great.  Is Poilievre planning to expand the existing program?

https://smractionplan.ca/

There is no existing program. These things are new, and none in Canada yet.

[OftenWrong]

14 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

So, bottom line, lots of plans but no construction.

No shovels in the ground. No designs. No permits. No environmental and other required studies. No public consultations? No funding.

Lots of plans but....nothing firm. Can't even say thetre are promises....just talk.

Is more than just talk, this is going to happen and in most western countries in the world. It's the only viable, sustainable high-power energy source that has low carbon emissions.

Coming soon to a corner near you

[ExFlyer]

13 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Is more than just talk, this is going to happen and in most western countries in the world. It's the only viable, sustainable high-power energy source that has low carbon emissions.

Coming soon to a corner near you

OK? LOL 

So far, one plan...... in Chalk River....which is what Chalk River is supposed to be doing by mandate.

Edited November 14, 2023 by ExFlyer

[OftenWrong]

15 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

OK? LOL 

So far, one plan...... in Chalk River....which is what Chalk River is supposed to be doing by mandate.

It's an evaluation plan. The design of several different companies' smr's had to be reviewed by the regulator. There are other potential sites being talked about. It would be good if government chivatos moved their lazy butts a bit quicker, but whatareyougonnado? ?‍♂️

[Michael Hardner]

28 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

There is no existing program. These things are new, and none in Canada yet.

Ok - was the link I posted just informational ?  

Based on this it seems like there is work starting now across organizations.

https://smractionplan.ca/smr-action-plan-full-list-actions#table

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

...whatareyougonnado? ?‍♂️

Elect Poilievre, apparently, to kick ASS ?

[OftenWrong]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ok - was the link I posted just informational ?  

Based on this it seems like there is work starting now across organizations.

https://smractionplan.ca/smr-action-plan-full-list-actions#table

That's right, there is no existing program. There are no functioning smr's in Canada as yet. Work is just starting now.

Was that not informative enough the first time I said it?

[OftenWrong]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

Elect Poilievre, apparently, to kick ASS ?

Or at least to do the job he's been given. Roll up sleeves and get to work. Something your guy Trudeau never did in his entire life.

 

[ExFlyer]

14 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

It's an evaluation plan. The design of several different companies' smr's had to be reviewed by the regulator. There are other potential sites being talked about. It would be good if government chivatos moved their lazy butts a bit quicker, but whatareyougonnado? ?‍♂️

"Evaluation".....

13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ok - was the link I posted just informational ?  

Based on this it seems like there is work starting now across organizations.

https://smractionplan.ca/smr-action-plan-full-list-actions#table

 

11 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Elect Poilievre, apparently, to kick ASS ?

LOL

9 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

That's right, there is no existing program. There are no functioning smr's in Canada as yet. Work is just starting now.

Was that not informative enough the first time I said it?

None in the world, not just Canada.

 

Yahoo, a dick measuring contests.

Bottom line folks...planning goes on all the time. Lots of hoops to yet go through before a shovel goes in the ground.

 

I think it is all a good idea and a long time coming. Pushing for fossil free energy is going to require many of theses SR nationwide. My point is there is only planning going on and we all know that within government, planning is a career for many. Real action is normally not achieved. Someone will have too many objections.

Edited November 14, 2023 by ExFlyer

[Queenmandy85]

I think Mr. Poilievre said he will expedite the process to get them up and running sooner. At least he is talking about it. The other leaders are doing nothing. 

 

[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I think Mr. Poilievre said he will expedite the process to get them up and running sooner. At least he is talking about it. The other leaders are doing nothing. 

 

When did he say that??  Where.

[Michael Hardner]

26 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

 Was that not informative enough the first time I said it?

I didn't interpret "There is no existing program" as you meant it.

20 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Or at least to do the job he's been given. Roll up sleeves and get to work. Something your guy Trudeau never did in his entire life.

 

Trudeau is not my guy.  I know lots of people who can roll up their sleeves and still can't get the job done.  

I hope Poilievre isn't one of those.