Canadian_Cavalier Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 When the UN votes on things like these, 90% of the world always either votes for it or abstains, while the US, Israel and a few of their dogs vote against. Not that it would matter, the UN is more useless than an ice cream truck in Nunavut. But it shows that when push comes to shove, international law has two standards: One for Israel, and the other for everyone else. It's funny how we hear nonstop from the woke government about our past sin of colonialism, while we refuse to hold Israel responsible for its current sin! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Canadian_Cavalier said: hold Israel responsible for its current sin! which would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Cavalier Posted November 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Legato said: which would be? Building illegal settlements in the Palestinian West Bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Canadian_Cavalier said: Building illegal settlements in the Palestinian West Bank. Illegal by which law or standards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Cavalier Posted November 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Legato said: Illegal by which law or standards? International law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Canadian_Cavalier said: International law. Vague response, which law than specifically names Israel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 A tiny bit hypocritical for Canada and the USA to condemn another country for settling on someone elses land.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 54 minutes ago, herbie said: A tiny bit hypocritical for Canada and the USA to condemn another country for settling on someone elses land.... Tell that to the Vikings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Cavalier Posted November 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 hours ago, herbie said: A tiny bit hypocritical for Canada and the USA to condemn another country for settling on someone elses land.... P1ss off back to Europe if you sincerely think this is "stolen land". It is conquered land. Multiple empires had conquered Palestine in the past. What makes this different is Israel is violating present international law put in place in order to ensure peace. Are all the new Indian immigrants "settlers" too or are you just anti-White? 4 hours ago, Legato said: Vague response, which law than specifically names Israel? Many. But I'll give you this link from the American embassy in Israel, written a few months ago. If even they believe Israel is violating the law, it is clear. Mainstream websites like AP and Reuters also note these settlements are illegal. https://il.usembassy.gov/settlements-in-the-west-bank/ https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-settlements-west-bank-biden-49c4788ffc5f5ee41d5c48365ac5395b https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/thousands-israelis-march-illegal-west-bank-outpost-tensions-mount-2023-04-10/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Canadian_Cavalier said: P1ss off back to Europe if you sincerely think this is "stolen land". It is conquered land. Multiple empires had conquered Palestine in the past. What makes this different is Israel is violating present international law put in place in order to ensure peace. Are all the new Indian immigrants "settlers" too or are you just anti-White? Many. But I'll give you this link from the American embassy in Israel, written a few months ago. If even they believe Israel is violating the law, it is clear. Mainstream websites like AP and Reuters also note these settlements are illegal. https://il.usembassy.gov/settlements-in-the-west-bank/ https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-settlements-west-bank-biden-49c4788ffc5f5ee41d5c48365ac5395b https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/thousands-israelis-march-illegal-west-bank-outpost-tensions-mount-2023-04-10/ Now pray do tell which law is being broken?. News agencies do not make law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Cavalier Posted November 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Legato said: Now pray do tell which law is being broken?. News agencies do not make law. It's almost impossible to argue with someone as feeble minded as you but here's a bit from the official UN Website: https://press.un.org/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 Just now, Canadian_Cavalier said: It's almost impossible to argue with someone as feeble minded as you but here's a bit from the official UN Website: https://press.un.org/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm Ha yes resort to name calling when your argument is devoid of substance. The UN has no authority to make law or enforce any such law. BTW that UN BS was 2016. "She emphasized, however, that her vote today had not been straightforward. Explaining that Israel had been treated differently from other States for as long as it had been a member of the United Nations, she noted that during the course of 2016, 18 resolutions adopted in the General Assembly and others in the Human Rights Council had all condemned Israel. It was because of that bias that the United States had not voted in favour of the resolution, she said, emphasizing that her delegation would not have let the resolution pass had it not addressed terrorism and incitement to violence". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Cavalier Posted November 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Legato said: The UN has no authority to make law or enforce any such law. You are implying Israel could kill all Palestinians and it wouldn't break any law. You probably want that, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Canadian_Cavalier said: You are implying Israel could kill all Palestinians and it wouldn't break any law. You probably want that, too. By that twisted logic are you implying that Hamas could kill all the Israelis and not be braking the law. All the implications are fabricated by yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 21 hours ago, Canadian_Cavalier said: When the UN votes on things like these, 90% of the world always either votes for it or abstains, while the US, Israel and a few of their dogs vote against. Not that it would matter, the UN is more useless than an ice cream truck in Nunavut. But it shows that when push comes to shove, international law has two standards: One for Israel, and the other for everyone else. It's funny how we hear nonstop from the woke government about our past sin of colonialism, while we refuse to hold Israel responsible for its current sin! Is the west bank an autonomous nation? No. I don't like that Israel keeps populating the west bank with Jewish settlements, but that's not "illegal". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Cavalier Posted November 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 17 hours ago, Legato said: By that twisted logic are you implying that Hamas could kill all the Israelis and not be braking the law. All the implications are fabricated by yourself. What? You, the denier of international law, would agree that Hamas can in fact kill all Israelis if they wanted, since you refuse to acknowledge how illegal Israeli settlements are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Canadian_Cavalier said: What? You, the denier of international law, would agree that Hamas can in fact kill all Israelis if they wanted, since you refuse to acknowledge how illegal Israeli settlements are. That was your logic not mine. As before which you sidestepped show me some concrete legality. The UN and news outlets do not qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Cavalier Posted November 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Legato said: That was your logic not mine. As before which you sidestepped show me some concrete legality. The UN and news outlets do not qualify. If the UK's foreign office website doesn't count, I don't know what does "We call on the Government of Israel to freeze all settlement activity in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Israeli settlement activity is a major barrier to our pursuit of a lasting peace agreement in the Middle East. Settlements are not only illegal under international law and in direct contravention of Israel’s Roadmap commitments, but more practically they represent an attempt to create ‘facts on the ground’ which make a two-state solution harder to achieve. " https://web.archive.org/web/20100830144204/http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/global-issues/conflict-prevention/mena/middle-east-peace-process1/israel-international-communityinternational-community I also showed you the US embassy's take before, but telling the truth and admitting when you're wrong isn't something zionists are good at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted November 14, 2023 Report Share Posted November 14, 2023 21 hours ago, Canadian_Cavalier said: You are implying Israel could kill all Palestinians and it wouldn't break any law. You probably want that, too. Are you saying Israel can not defended itself ?...or that only terrorists can kill with out any response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Cavalier Posted November 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Are you saying Israel can not defended itself ?...or that only terrorists can kill with out any response. Building illegal settlements on Palestinian land isn't "defense". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted November 14, 2023 Report Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Canadian_Cavalier said: If the UK's foreign office website doesn't count, I don't know what does "We call on the Government of Israel to freeze all settlement activity in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Israeli settlement activity is a major barrier to our pursuit of a lasting peace agreement in the Middle East. Settlements are not only illegal under international law and in direct contravention of Israel’s Roadmap commitments, but more practically they represent an attempt to create ‘facts on the ground’ which make a two-state solution harder to achieve. " https://web.archive.org/web/20100830144204/http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/global-issues/conflict-prevention/mena/middle-east-peace-process1/israel-international-communityinternational-community I also showed you the US embassy's take before, but telling the truth and admitting when you're wrong isn't something zionists are good at. That was 13 years ago and does not apply today. Next try going back to the bronze age and please do try to be careful when making your brass jock strap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 14, 2023 Report Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, Canadian_Cavalier said: If the UK's foreign office website doesn't count, I don't know what does "We call on the Government of Israel to freeze all settlement activity in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Israeli settlement activity is a major barrier to our pursuit of a lasting peace agreement in the Middle East. Settlements are not only illegal under international law and in direct contravention of Israel’s Roadmap commitments, but more practically they represent an attempt to create ‘facts on the ground’ which make a two-state solution harder to achieve. " https://web.archive.org/web/20100830144204/http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/global-issues/conflict-prevention/mena/middle-east-peace-process1/israel-international-communityinternational-community I also showed you the US embassy's take before, but telling the truth and admitting when you're wrong isn't something zionists are good at. LOL...what Zionists are good at is a long list that includes buying power. Be that as it may...if Israel simply ignores this "international law" of yours and the UN's...and if that does not change the support of Europe and the USA...what good is this "international law"? Is it even "illegal" in a nation that does not recognize this law? Evidently...the answer is, in Israel it is not "illegal". What you fail to realize is that Israel IS! Its "nationhood" is a fact of global reality. Its not going anywhere. Granted...these Zionists are a bit...overbearing...but the nation exists and was nailed with an attack that was both military AND terrorististic in nature. Once Hamas crossed the line from military action to terrorist tactics, they sealed their fate.! Israel now has no choice but to deal with them all. Remove them from their society once and for all. Whether that means murdering them all...or finding a permanent refuge for them, is Israel's prerogative to chose now. Edited November 14, 2023 by Nationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted November 14, 2023 Report Share Posted November 14, 2023 17 hours ago, Canadian_Cavalier said: Building illegal settlements on Palestinian land isn't "defense". Absolutely, it is not defensive...but does it justify any terrorist attacks, does it justify not willing to talk about peace, does it justify wanting to kill every Jew globally... NO it does not, the attack on Gaza is an attack on HAMAS A terrorist group that has been condemned globally, it includes our nations signature on that very declaration. The same Terrorist group that does not give a shit about the Palestinian people... It is time to remove this cancer... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 On 11/12/2023 at 8:44 AM, Canadian_Cavalier said: When the UN votes on things like these, 90% of the world always either votes for it or abstains, while the US, Israel and a few of their dogs vote against. Not that it would matter, the UN is more useless than an ice cream truck in Nunavut. But it shows that when push comes to shove, international law has two standards: One for Israel, and the other for everyone else. It's funny how we hear nonstop from the woke government about our past sin of colonialism, while we refuse to hold Israel responsible for its current sin! The Canadian refusal was based on the fact the UN resolution did not also include a condemnation of Hamas for its attack on Israel. Canada proposed an amendment which would have included one but it was turned down. The UN resolution took sides and maybe we should have abstained but I'm comfortable with Canada not voting in favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 On 11/13/2023 at 4:50 PM, Army Guy said: Are you saying Israel can not defended itself ?...or that only terrorists can kill with out any response. Are you saying Israel has the right to continue expanding into and subjugating Palestine without resistance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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