CNN Mistakenly Filmed Woman Stuffing A Ballot Box With Multiple Ballots – The Reporter’s Reaction Says It All (Video)

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What fraud? All you've provided evidence for is that you have a suspicious nature. 

So you admit you don't know how much fraud took place.  Well - then i was right wasn't I

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So you admit you don't know how much fraud took place.  Well - then i was right wasn't I

What fraud?

[Nationalist]

21 minutes ago, Hodad said:

1. Let no one accuse you of taking the high road.

2. You're really just lying here. It's possible Joe lied, but there is not evidence, let alone proof. According to everyone involved, including Devon Archer, Joe never talked (or was observed to have talked) business with Hunter. And there certainly are not a record of millions of dollars going to Joe. Again, anything is possible, but you're going to need some evidence to make a plausible case, and evidence amounting to proof to justify consequences. You currently have neither. 

3. Jeebus, yes there is considerable evidence--amounting to proof. The Eastman memo (aka the coup memo) was drafted and discussed at length. Many people told them it was illegal. Eastman acknowledged that it was illegal and asked for a pardon ahead of it. Then they actually tried to put it into action. People tried to deliver fake elector ballots to Mike Pence during the certification. While outside the Capitol Trump was continuing to apply enormous pressure to Mike Pence to declare him the winner--to the point that the crowd that marched to insurrection were chanting "hang Mike Pence." That's all a matter of public record at this point--and indeed, much of it conducted in public.

And as Trump's cronies continue to flip we're going to hear more and more of this testimony, which goes not just to the facts already in evidence, but the state of mind, the deliberateness of what they tried to do. 

 

 

RE Joe: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republican-allegations-evidence-biden-impeachment-inquiry/story?id=103535926

There is plenty of evidence. Quite enough to press charges.

RE Trump: What LAW did Trump actually break here? Did he leave office? yes. Did he tell the crowd on Jan 6 to break into the Capital? No. They did a lot of talking it sounds like. We all talk. I do...perhaps you do...we all mostly can talk. We say things that we never intend to do, or know we can't, at times. Is that illegal? No.

Good luck with this. Its doomed. In the meantime...every time you twits invent a new way to "Get Trump", he gets stronger support. Have you seen Joe's support lately?

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What fraud?

well was there any? Or wasn't there?

[Hodad]

13 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

RE Joe: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republican-allegations-evidence-biden-impeachment-inquiry/story?id=103535926

There is plenty of evidence. Quite enough to press charges.

RE Trump: What LAW did Trump actually break here? Did he leave office? yes. Did he tell the crowd on Jan 6 to break into the Capital? No. They did a lot of talking it sounds like. We all talk. I do...perhaps you do...we all mostly can talk. We say things that we never intend to do, or know we can't, at times. Is that illegal? No.

Good luck with this. Its doomed. In the meantime...every time you twits invent a new way to "Get Trump", he gets stronger support. Have you seen Joe's support lately?

? Did you actually read that article? Every paragraph mentions a lack of evidence. In other words, the Republicans are making plenty of accusations, but have provided almost nothing to support them. And it seems like every time they invite someone to testify (like Archer) it ends up completely undermining the allegation. Anything is possible, but so far they've got nothing. 

And yes, Trump has broken multiple laws in serious ways. The most obvious is taking, hiding, refusing to return and lying about the possession of classified documents. He knew it was wrong--boasted that he shouldn't have them while showing them to people not cleared to see them. He did it anyway. Like most of Trump's transgressions, it was willful. 

And yes, you can break the law by "just talking." I don't think there was any confusion on the part of the crowd. They knew exactly what Trump meant when he told them to march right now to the capital and fight like hell to "stop the steal" or they wouldn't have a country anymore. He posed to them an existential crisis, and they acted accordingly. The token use of the word "peaceful" doesn't erase the rest of what he said, and it certainly didn't fool the crowd. They did exactly what he wanted them to do. And you can be certain it was what he wanted because he sat and watched the insurrection unfold on TV and didn't lift a finger to stop it until it had mostly run its course. And he did it while those advisors closest to him told him over and over that he had to condemn and stop it. 

And yes, the fake elector scheme broke the law in multiple ways, and at least 3 of the fake electors have given testimony that they took part in the scheme because Trump directed them to do so.

It's really sad that you support a man not for being good, or right, or just, but because he's done so much that is objectively wrong and has managed to escape accountability for those actions. 

 

I'm certain that you haven't read the indictments--particularly the federal indictments. They go to significant effort to disarm the "just talking" defense. They state specifically that it is fine for Trump to challenge elections, that it was even fine for him to lie about winning the elections, but that the enumerated actions detailed in the document constitute felony crimes.  He's not being prosecuted for simply speaking, but rather for actions. 

 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

well was there any? Or wasn't there?

In your mind sure but that's to be expected given your history of unsubstantiated claims.

[Nationalist]

17 hours ago, Hodad said:

? Did you actually read that article? Every paragraph mentions a lack of evidence. In other words, the Republicans are making plenty of accusations, but have provided almost nothing to support them. And it seems like every time they invite someone to testify (like Archer) it ends up completely undermining the allegation. Anything is possible, but so far they've got nothing. 

And yes, Trump has broken multiple laws in serious ways. The most obvious is taking, hiding, refusing to return and lying about the possession of classified documents. He knew it was wrong--boasted that he shouldn't have them while showing them to people not cleared to see them. He did it anyway. Like most of Trump's transgressions, it was willful. 

And yes, you can break the law by "just talking." I don't think there was any confusion on the part of the crowd. They knew exactly what Trump meant when he told them to march right now to the capital and fight like hell to "stop the steal" or they wouldn't have a country anymore. He posed to them an existential crisis, and they acted accordingly. The token use of the word "peaceful" doesn't erase the rest of what he said, and it certainly didn't fool the crowd. They did exactly what he wanted them to do. And you can be certain it was what he wanted because he sat and watched the insurrection unfold on TV and didn't lift a finger to stop it until it had mostly run its course. And he did it while those advisors closest to him told him over and over that he had to condemn and stop it. 

And yes, the fake elector scheme broke the law in multiple ways, and at least 3 of the fake electors have given testimony that they took part in the scheme because Trump directed them to do so.

It's really sad that you support a man not for being good, or right, or just, but because he's done so much that is objectively wrong and has managed to escape accountability for those actions. 

 

I'm certain that you haven't read the indictments--particularly the federal indictments. They go to significant effort to disarm the "just talking" defense. They state specifically that it is fine for Trump to challenge elections, that it was even fine for him to lie about winning the elections, but that the enumerated actions detailed in the document constitute felony crimes.  He's not being prosecuted for simply speaking, but rather for actions. 

 

Lol...yet nothing but accusations and flaky charges nobody takes seriously. 

See you at the finish line.

Don't forget your knee pads.

[Nationalist]

On 11/17/2023 at 2:17 PM, Hodad said:

? Did you actually read that article? Every paragraph mentions a lack of evidence. In other words, the Republicans are making plenty of accusations, but have provided almost nothing to support them. And it seems like every time they invite someone to testify (like Archer) it ends up completely undermining the allegation. Anything is possible, but so far they've got nothing. 

And yes, Trump has broken multiple laws in serious ways. The most obvious is taking, hiding, refusing to return and lying about the possession of classified documents. He knew it was wrong--boasted that he shouldn't have them while showing them to people not cleared to see them. He did it anyway. Like most of Trump's transgressions, it was willful. 

And yes, you can break the law by "just talking." I don't think there was any confusion on the part of the crowd. They knew exactly what Trump meant when he told them to march right now to the capital and fight like hell to "stop the steal" or they wouldn't have a country anymore. He posed to them an existential crisis, and they acted accordingly. The token use of the word "peaceful" doesn't erase the rest of what he said, and it certainly didn't fool the crowd. They did exactly what he wanted them to do. And you can be certain it was what he wanted because he sat and watched the insurrection unfold on TV and didn't lift a finger to stop it until it had mostly run its course. And he did it while those advisors closest to him told him over and over that he had to condemn and stop it. 

And yes, the fake elector scheme broke the law in multiple ways, and at least 3 of the fake electors have given testimony that they took part in the scheme because Trump directed them to do so.

It's really sad that you support a man not for being good, or right, or just, but because he's done so much that is objectively wrong and has managed to escape accountability for those actions. 

 

I'm certain that you haven't read the indictments--particularly the federal indictments. They go to significant effort to disarm the "just talking" defense. They state specifically that it is fine for Trump to challenge elections, that it was even fine for him to lie about winning the elections, but that the enumerated actions detailed in the document constitute felony crimes.  He's not being prosecuted for simply speaking, but rather for actions. 

 

I see. So Trump can be charged with a bunch of accusations, but Biden can't.

And this whole time I thought the justice system was lop-sided.

LOL...retribution will be so fun to watch.

[ironstone]

On 11/17/2023 at 1:37 PM, eyeball said:

What fraud?

This was a headline from the far-left New York Times:

Ballot-Stuffers Caught on Camera Have Upended a Race for Mayor

In Bridgeport, Conn., a judge found evidence of mishandled ballots in the Democratic primary for mayor and ordered a revote.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

This was a headline from the far-left New York Times:

Ballot-Stuffers Caught on Camera Have Upended a Race for Mayor

In Bridgeport, Conn., a judge found evidence of mishandled ballots in the Democratic primary for mayor and ordered a revote.

The evidence that absentee ballots are a serious risk for election fraud and it creates doubt and allows people to call the results into question legitimately without having to prove fraud.

The most important thing about a democratic system with voting is that people believe that the vote count is substantially accurate and honest.  Without that, you get jan 6th, you get  "russian collusion", etc.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

This was a headline from the far-left New York Times:

Ballot-Stuffers Caught on Camera Have Upended a Race for Mayor

In Bridgeport, Conn., a judge found evidence of mishandled ballots in the Democratic primary for mayor and ordered a revote.

It's been clear for years now that Americans are amateurs at democracy and running their own elections.  Thy should invite an international team of experts to run their elections - use little bottles of ink that voters stick a finger in so they can't vote again. Keep it simple.

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In clip after clip, two women are seen stuffing wads of paper into the boxes.

As opposed to ballot envelopes? Maybe they thought it was a recycling bin.

[Hodad]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I see. So Trump can be charged with a bunch of accusations, but Biden can't.

And this whole time I thought the justice system was lop-sided.

LOL...retribution will be so fun to watch.

No, goofus, no one gets charged based on accusations. They get charged based on evidence. The prosecutor thinks they did it. The prosecutor thinks they have the evidence to convince 12 people beyond a doubt that the accused did it. And then they bring charges.

That should be obvious. The evidence of Trump's crimes is overwhelming. Hence, he is charged. The evidence of Biden's alleged crimes is non-existent. Hence, he is not charged. It's always possible that that could change some day, but until then, you just seem silly complaining about a lopsided justice system when it's the circumstances that are lopsided.

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Hodad

[CdnFox]

45 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's been clear for years now that Americans are amateurs at democracy and running their own elections.  Thy should invite an international team of experts to run their elections - use little bottles of ink that voters stick a finger in so they can't vote again. Keep it simple.

 

I feel like that's not going to help with the mail in ballot issue. 

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As opposed to ballot envelopes? Maybe they thought it was a recycling bin.

They probably just didn't know how to work an envelope properly.

[eyeball]

31 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I feel like that's not going to help with the mail in ballot issue. 

I thought you wanted to eliminate mail-in balloting?

 

32 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They probably just didn't know how to work an envelope properly.

What's likelier is that it really was just paper being stuffed into the ballot box.  

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I thought you wanted to eliminate mail-in balloting?

What did i say that is in opposition to that? Inking people's fingers wouldn't help make mail in ballots more accountable   so i still supoort getting rid of them. (wow dude - did you really need me to explain that?)

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What's likelier is that it really was just paper being stuffed into the ballot box.  

LOL - no, thats pretty much the least likely thing    But - it's always amusing to see how far you lefties will go to try to deny obvious truths  

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

(wow dude - did you really need me to explain that?)

No, you need to explain why having someone else run UIS elections using ink-stained fingers to eliminate fraud wouldn't work. It seem to work fine elsewhere.

[eyeball]

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL - no, thats pretty much the least likely thing

So where are the pictures in this case, have you seen any?

The last time you said this happened you reported it was tonnes.

[CdnFox]

37 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, you need to explain why having someone else run UIS elections using ink-stained fingers to eliminate fraud wouldn't work. It seem to work fine elsewhere.

Why woudln't ink stained fingers work with mail in ballots?  That's your question??

Because how do you stain the finger when they're just putting it in a mailbox? And how would you know their finger was stained if you did?!?!?

Holy shit.  I literally cant' believe you asked that.

33 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So where are the pictures in this case, have you seen any?

The last time you said this happened you reported it was tonnes.

Oh dear.   I see that you're at the point where you're so frustrated about being wrong that you're starting to rant.

Big deep breaths little guy - you'll calm down.  (i hope)

[eyeball]

56 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Why woudln't ink stained fingers work with mail in ballots?  That's your question??

? No. Stop being such frickin dummy.

[BeaverFever]

On 11/4/2023 at 3:43 AM, CdnFox said:

https://www.rightjournalism.com/cnn-mistakenly-filmed-woman-stuffing-a-ballot-box-with-multiple-ballots-the-reporters-reaction-says-it-all-video/

A state judge has taken the unusual step of ordering a new Democratic mayoral primary in Connecticut’s largest city to be held after the Nov. 7 general election is completed. The decision comes after surveillance videos showed a woman stuffing what appeared to be absentee ballots into an outdoor ballot box days before the original primary.

 

Also internet sleuths managed to dig up a similar video that was aired on CNN and it’s from 2020 elections.

CNN’s news cameras caught a masked woman in Ohio stuffing a ballot box on live TV during the 2020 Presidential Election, which CNN and other corporate media outlets claim was “safe and secure” and not riddled with unprecedented levels of fraud from both government officials and paid political hacks.

 

CNN’s cameras were set up beside “the only ballot drop box in Cuyahoga County, Ohio” during early voting in the 2020 election, and captured a lone woman dumping a heaping handful of ballots that obviously belonged to a large group of people. There’s at least one massive problem with this entire situation, considering that ballot harvesting is ILLEGAL in Ohio.

Link is dead now. Looks like it was fake news from 2020 that was quickly debunked and then that right wing propagandist website took it down  

 

 

Social media posts misleadingly claim a CNN clip shows ballot fraud in Ohio

CLAIM: A CNN broadcast captured an Ohio woman illegally placing multiple ballots into a drop box on Election Day.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. In the video, which is from Oct. 31, 2020, the woman appears to be placing at least three ballots in a drop box as CNN is filming. Election officials and government watchdog groups in Ohio say there’s nothing inherently illegal about placing that many ballots in the box. The only requirement is that the ballots all must be from family members.

THE FACTS: As Ohio voters headed to the polls Tuesday for an off-year election, social media users shared a news clip they claim captures mail ballot fraud in action in the bellwether state.

The CNN clip shows national correspondent Gary Tuchman standing in front of a ballot drop box in the parking lot of Cuyahoga County Board of Elections office while wearing a facemask.

Other news

As he’s speaking to the camera, a woman pulls up in a minivan and begins placing some of the papers she has in her hand into the ballot box. Tuchman jokingly asks if she voted for Ronald Regan or Jimmy Carter, to which she responds, “Carter.”

“CNN accidentally caught a woman stuffing a ballot box,” the text over the brief clip reads. “Watch how quick they pan away when they realize what she’s doing.”

“Nothing to see here folks,” wrote one Instagram user who shared the video.

But there’s nothing to suggest the woman, who is not identified on the clip, was doing anything suspicious under state law, said local election officials and government watchdog groups.

They say she’s holding at least three ballots, which is within her legal right to submit, so long as they’re from approved family members.

The video also dates to 2020 and isn’t from the current election, as the posts seem to imply.

Indeed CNN’s chyron running along the bottom of the video reads, “Trump, Biden vie for Ohio with 2.5M+ votes already cast,” showing it was from when then President Donald Trump lost his bid for re-election to Joe Biden.

Anthony Perlatti, director of the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections, said the maroon-colored design of the state’s ballot return envelope can be readily seen on the paper she’s holding in her right hand and the two in her left hand.

The other papers don’t appear to be ballots, he said.

Ohio law permits people to hand in completed absentee, or mail, ballots for relatives, including their spouse, father, mother, father-in-law, mother-in-law, grandfather, grandmother, brother, sister, son, daughter, adopting parent, adopted child, stepparent, stepchild, uncle, aunt, nephew, or niece.

Melanie Amato, a spokesperson for Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose, agreed that an individual dropping off two or three absentee ballots isn’t itself a crime.

“Can’t say what is happening here, BUT she is not doing anything illegal IF she is returning ballots from family members,” she wrote in an email.

Catherine Turcer, executive director of Common Cause Ohio, added that in 2020, while the coronavirus pandemic was at its peak, many Ohio residents opted to vote absentee with one person in a family or household dropping off the ballots.

“I wouldn’t assume that the voter was doing something wrong,” she wrote in an email. “Voters drop off ballots for parents, adult children, and spouses.”

Tom Sutton, a political science professor at Baldwin Wallace University in Berea, a Cleveland suburb, noted that state law doesn’t limit how many ballots from family members can be deposited at one time.

A person could, theoretically, deliver one or more ballots for each of the 19 categories of family members listed under state law, he said.

CNN spokesperson Emily Kuhn, meanwhile, confirmed the video was from the cable news network’s election coverage in 2020.

But due to social distancing rules in effect at the time and the angle of his live shot, Tuchman didn’t see the woman putting anything into the box while live on air, she said.
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This is part of AP’s effort to address widely shared misinformation, including work with outside companies and organizations to add factual context to misleading content that is circulating online. Learn more about fact-checking at AP.
 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-election-ohio-ballots-voter-fraud-786464035733

Edited November 20, 2023 by BeaverFever

[Hodad]

23 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Link is dead now. Looks like it was fake news from 2020 that was quickly debunked and then that right wing propagandist website took it down  

 

 

Social media posts misleadingly claim a CNN clip shows ballot fraud in Ohio

CLAIM: A CNN broadcast captured an Ohio woman illegally placing multiple ballots into a drop box on Election Day.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. In the video, which is from Oct. 31, 2020, the woman appears to be placing at least three ballots in a drop box as CNN is filming. Election officials and government watchdog groups in Ohio say there’s nothing inherently illegal about placing that many ballots in the box. The only requirement is that the ballots all must be from family members.

THE FACTS: As Ohio voters headed to the polls Tuesday for an off-year election, social media users shared a news clip they claim captures mail ballot fraud in action in the bellwether state.

The CNN clip shows national correspondent Gary Tuchman standing in front of a ballot drop box in the parking lot of Cuyahoga County Board of Elections office while wearing a facemask.

Other news

As he’s speaking to the camera, a woman pulls up in a minivan and begins placing some of the papers she has in her hand into the ballot box. Tuchman jokingly asks if she voted for Ronald Regan or Jimmy Carter, to which she responds, “Carter.”

“CNN accidentally caught a woman stuffing a ballot box,” the text over the brief clip reads. “Watch how quick they pan away when they realize what she’s doing.”

“Nothing to see here folks,” wrote one Instagram user who shared the video.

But there’s nothing to suggest the woman, who is not identified on the clip, was doing anything suspicious under state law, said local election officials and government watchdog groups.

They say she’s holding at least three ballots, which is within her legal right to submit, so long as they’re from approved family members.

The video also dates to 2020 and isn’t from the current election, as the posts seem to imply.

Indeed CNN’s chyron running along the bottom of the video reads, “Trump, Biden vie for Ohio with 2.5M+ votes already cast,” showing it was from when then President Donald Trump lost his bid for re-election to Joe Biden.

Anthony Perlatti, director of the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections, said the maroon-colored design of the state’s ballot return envelope can be readily seen on the paper she’s holding in her right hand and the two in her left hand.

The other papers don’t appear to be ballots, he said.

Ohio law permits people to hand in completed absentee, or mail, ballots for relatives, including their spouse, father, mother, father-in-law, mother-in-law, grandfather, grandmother, brother, sister, son, daughter, adopting parent, adopted child, stepparent, stepchild, uncle, aunt, nephew, or niece.

Melanie Amato, a spokesperson for Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose, agreed that an individual dropping off two or three absentee ballots isn’t itself a crime.

“Can’t say what is happening here, BUT she is not doing anything illegal IF she is returning ballots from family members,” she wrote in an email.

Catherine Turcer, executive director of Common Cause Ohio, added that in 2020, while the coronavirus pandemic was at its peak, many Ohio residents opted to vote absentee with one person in a family or household dropping off the ballots.

“I wouldn’t assume that the voter was doing something wrong,” she wrote in an email. “Voters drop off ballots for parents, adult children, and spouses.”

Tom Sutton, a political science professor at Baldwin Wallace University in Berea, a Cleveland suburb, noted that state law doesn’t limit how many ballots from family members can be deposited at one time.

A person could, theoretically, deliver one or more ballots for each of the 19 categories of family members listed under state law, he said.

CNN spokesperson Emily Kuhn, meanwhile, confirmed the video was from the cable news network’s election coverage in 2020.

But due to social distancing rules in effect at the time and the angle of his live shot, Tuchman didn’t see the woman putting anything into the box while live on air, she said.
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This is part of AP’s effort to address widely shared misinformation, including work with outside companies and organizations to add factual context to misleading content that is circulating online. Learn more about fact-checking at AP.
 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-election-ohio-ballots-voter-fraud-786464035733

Yeah, even the garbage wingnut site took it down after it was debunked, but no amount of explaining seems to be able to get through to conservative posters here. Rather than admit the mistake, they will double and triple down on garbage. I think they like the flavor and lack capacity for shame, let alone remorse. ?‍♂️

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

? No. Stop being such frickin dummy.

That literally was your question kiddo   did you want to try again or just slink off somewhere feeling silly?

33 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Yeah, even the garbage wingnut site took it down after it was debunked, but no amount of explaining seems to be able to get through to conservative posters here. Rather than admit the mistake, they will double and triple down on garbage. I think they like the flavor and lack capacity for shame, let alone remorse. ?‍♂️

Yeah none of that is true.  Show me where it was 'debunked'.  they moved the page and tonnes of other sources reported on it as well.

In fact this confirms the video was legit - and all they can say is we can't be SURE she's doing something illlegal.  Which means we can't be sure she's not.  Which was my whole point.

I get it - you lefties think that if you tell lies fast enough and often enough they'll become true.  Sadly for you - no.

Edited November 20, 2023 by CdnFox

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, Hodad said:

No, goofus, no one gets charged based on accusations. They get charged based on evidence. The prosecutor thinks they did it. The prosecutor thinks they have the evidence to convince 12 people beyond a doubt that the accused did it. And then they bring charges.

That should be obvious. The evidence of Trump's crimes is overwhelming. Hence, he is charged. The evidence of Biden's alleged crimes is non-existent. Hence, he is not charged. It's always possible that that could change some day, but until then, you just seem silly complaining about a lopsided justice system when it's the circumstances that are lopsided.

 

The prosecutor...you mean the FBI and DOJ right? Ha...well they're on a very short leash right now. What...I figure a shelf life of about...12 more months?

[robosmith]

12 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The prosecutor...you mean the FBI and DOJ right? Ha...well they're on a very short leash right now. What...I figure a shelf life of about...12 more months?

Cause you believe they'll have to drop the charges in Nov 2024? LMAO

Why would they do that, gnat man? Esp if the trial is in progress.

Charges against Hunter weren't dropped when Joe won. Are you trying to claim that Trump will politicize the prosecution?

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Cause you believe they'll have to drop the charges in Nov 2024? LMAO

Why would they do that, gnat man? Esp if the trial is in progress.

Charges against Hunter weren't dropped when Joe won. Are you trying to claim that Trump will politicize the prosecution?

Nooo...I think Trump will fire their asses.