Mako Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) The elite seems to really enjoy war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4&t=20s https://face2faceafrica.com/article/23-yrs-ago-u-s-cruise-missiles-destroyed-sudans-largest-pharmaceutical-factory-that-was-saving-lives https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer/the-israel-lobby https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-nine-surges-of-obamas_b_387068https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/11/27/clinton-ponders-2020-run-lets-not-forget-her-real-libya-scandal-glenn-reynolds-column/895853001/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/10/opinion/susan-rice-africa.html https://www.cfr.org/blog/obamas-final-drone-strike-data https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-faces-criticism-over-yemen-after-saudi-led-airstrike-kills-dozens-2022-1 https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-biden-lies-fighting-hamas-gaza Edited October 17, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
WestCanMan Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 Trump didn't start any wars as president, maybe that's why he's so hated by the ruling class. 3 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Mako Posted October 16, 2023 Author Report Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Trump didn't start any wars as president, maybe that's why he's so hated by the ruling class. The Republicans’ assigned role is to soak up the blame for elite wars. Heaven help Republicans who are reluctant to fill this role. Edited October 16, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
robosmith Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Trump didn't start any wars as president, maybe that's why he's so hated by the ruling class. You keep claiming Trump wiped out ISIS, so how did he do that if he didn't start a war against them? Quote Trump claimed: “As you know, we captured 100% of the ISIS caliphate. When I took office, we had almost nothing. It was as though they were just forming again, and now it’s 100%.” Quote
Deluge Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, robosmith said: You keep claiming Trump wiped out ISIS, so how did he do that if he didn't start a war against them? He said Trump didn't start any wars, and that's true. All Trump did was cleanup after Hussein Obama had Bin Laden assassinated. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, robosmith said: You keep claiming Trump wiped out ISIS, so how did he do that if he didn't start a war against them? Of course you wouldn't have known this, because he did such a bad job of fighting it, but Obama started the war against islamic state. Trump just finished it. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
robosmith Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, Deluge said: He said Trump didn't start any wars, and that's true. All Trump did was cleanup after Hussein Obama had Bin Laden assassinated. 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: Of course you wouldn't have known this, because he did such a bad job of fighting it, but Obama started the war against islamic state. Trump just finished it. Not according to what Trump said and I QUOTED. Quote Trump claimed: “As you know, we captured 100% of the ISIS caliphate. When I took office, we had almost nothing. It was as though they were just forming again, and now it’s 100%.” Quote
Deluge Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Not according to what Trump said and I QUOTED. Trump didn't start a war. What part of this is not getting through that swollen head of yours? Quote
Mako Posted October 16, 2023 Author Report Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) More war-mongers: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/war-brings-business-to-feinstein-spouse-blum-s-2652085.php https://archive.globalpolicy.org/the-dark-side-of-natural-resources-st/water-in-conflict/40150.html https://www.haaretz.com/2009-08-06/ty-article/israeli-arms-dealers-join-liebermans-entourage-to-africa/0000017f-e6db-da9b-a1ff-eeffaae60000 https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2022/03/09/defense-industry-ukraine-242533 https://asiatimes.com/2021/12/neocons-bent-on-starting-another-disaster-in-ukraine/ https://www.newsweek.com/volodymyr-zelensky-accused-trying-start-world-war-iii-over-poland-missile-strike-1760125 Mountains of dead bodies seem to give them a thrill. Edited October 16, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Moonlight Graham Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 53 minutes ago, Mako said: Mountains of dead bodies seem to give them a thrill. Nah just donations from the defense industry. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
WestCanMan Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Not according to what Trump said and I QUOTED. Just because islamic state still held all of their territory doesn't mean that Obama wasn't already at war with them. Obammy the hawk: Quote According to new figures, the US dropped nearly three bombs every hour, 24 hours a day. Dare we think how Donald Trump will continue this legacy? 72 drone strikes a day. You don't think he was at war with islamic state? Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Aristides Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/08/trump-war-terror-drones/567218/ Quote
robosmith Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Deluge said: Trump didn't start a war. What part of this is not getting through that swollen head of yours? The part where YOU'RE LYING about what TRUMP SAID and I QUOTED HERE. Until you can be honest: bye bye Quote
robosmith Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Just because islamic state still held all of their territory doesn't mean that Obama wasn't already at war with them. Obammy the hawk: 72 drone strikes a day. You don't think he was at war with islamic state? I never said what Trump said was true. HE'S the ONE who said nothing was going on until he took over. Of course, like everything else, he was LYING. Quote
Deluge Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 45 minutes ago, robosmith said: The part where YOU'RE LYING about what TRUMP SAID and I QUOTED HERE. Until you can be honest: bye bye Your quote doesn't prove that Trump started a war. You're lying again. Quote
Caswell Thomas Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 7 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Of course you wouldn't have known this, because he did such a bad job of fighting it, but Obama started the war against islamic state. Trump just finished it. So...Trump WAS in a war he controlled the outcome of? We know he went to the Middle East, who else did he collaborate with over there? Did he try to build any golf resorts? He seems to do that everywhere he goes. As far as the GOP not starting wars, untrue. Mostly they are invested heavily in the very materials and finished products used in wars, and too many billionaires in this country My Opinion become so selling war material. Get rid of the profit made from wars and we'll see a lot of this war, war, war boosting in it seems like every Congress, go away or at least reduce. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 13 hours ago, robosmith said: The part where YOU'RE LYING about what TRUMP SAID and I QUOTED HERE. Until you can be honest: bye bye Lol...what a plank... 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 8 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said: So...Trump WAS in a war he controlled the outcome of? We know he went to the Middle East, who else did he collaborate with over there? Did he try to build any golf resorts? He seems to do that everywhere he goes. As far as the GOP not starting wars, untrue. Mostly they are invested heavily in the very materials and finished products used in wars, and too many billionaires in this country My Opinion become so selling war material. Get rid of the profit made from wars and we'll see a lot of this war, war, war boosting in it seems like every Congress, go away or at least reduce. *giggle* Overlooking the poor sentence structure here...obviously a product of excited desperation...Trump started zero wars. He ended a war Obammy started and was going to end the war Bush started. Those are the facts. The rest is all just warped reality and lies.! Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 The Republican Party is going through its own transformation. Nationalism is taking the place of Uni-Party swamp creatures. This p1sses the elite right off. No wars to pad the pockets of the military-industrial complex. 1 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Mako Posted October 17, 2023 Author Report Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) The average Democratic voter did not put Biden into office so he could get us mixed up in more stupid, endless wars that fail to serve U.S. interests. Blinken serves the donor class not the average citizen. https://readsludge.com/2019/02/11/heres-how-aipac-spends-money-to-influence-congress/#:~:text=Saban%2C who funds AIPAC’s semi-annual Saban Leadership Seminar%2C,donated %2413.8 million to outside political spending groups. Edited October 17, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Mako Posted October 17, 2023 Author Report Posted October 17, 2023 Hasn’t the U.S. fought enough wars for Israel? https://www.yahoo.com/news/pentagon-puts-troops-notice-prepare-200825301.html Hasn’t Israel received enough welfare checks from the U.S.? Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Mako Posted October 18, 2023 Author Report Posted October 18, 2023 More imperialism: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/13/mali-high-stakes-francois-hollande Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
reason10 Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 3:28 PM, robosmith said: You keep claiming Trump wiped out ISIS, so how did he do that if he didn't start a war against them? You are dumber than a box of hammers. No president can start a war, you more on. Only Congress can. A president is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF, who can order military forces into battle. And you wonder why everyone says you're so stupid and your blue state public schools are so inferior. You have shiite for brains. 1 Quote
Hodad Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 8:13 AM, Nationalist said: *giggle* Overlooking the poor sentence structure here...obviously a product of excited desperation...Trump started zero wars. He ended a war Obammy started and was going to end the war Bush started. Those are the facts. The rest is all just warped reality and lies.! Ended Obama's "war"? Hm... Oh, you must mean when he abandoned our long-term good-faith allies in Syria to near certain death and conquest (as a favor to Putin). He sure as hell didn't do it to get troops out of the region. He was busy sending thousands more at the same time. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 19, 2023 Report Posted October 19, 2023 11 hours ago, Hodad said: Ended Obama's "war"? Hm... Oh, you must mean when he abandoned our long-term good-faith allies in Syria to near certain death and conquest (as a favor to Putin). He sure as hell didn't do it to get troops out of the region. He was busy sending thousands more at the same time. He ended wars instead of starting them.! Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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