Should Hamas support rallies in Canada be stopped?

blackbird · November 22, 2023

"There is probably no more disputed real estate on earth than the land of Israel. Even calling it “Israel” will raise objections from some quarters. The Jewish people lay claim to the land because they first held possession of it millennia ago and because God directly gave them the land, as recorded in the Bible.

In Genesis 12:7, God promises Abram, who had just arrived in Canaan, “To your offspring I will give this land.” Later, in Genesis 15:18, God expands on that unconditional promise: “To your descendants I have given this land, From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates” (NASB). Then, in Genesis 17:8, God reiterates the promise to Abraham, adding that the land gift is irrevocable: “The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you.” God later repeats the promise to Abraham’s son Isaac (Genesis 26:3–4) and Isaac’s son Jacob (Genesis 28:13), whose name God later changed to Israel.

In the Abrahamic Covenant, then, God laid out the extent of the land that would belong to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob—a territory including all of Canaan and stretching from Egypt to modern-day Iraq. Several centuries later, when it came time for the Israelites actually take possession of the Promised Land, God again spoke of a vast area “from the Negev wilderness in the south to the Lebanon mountains in the north, from the Euphrates River in the east to the Mediterranean Sea in the west, including all the land of the Hittites” (Joshua 1:4, NLT).

The promise of land belonging to the children of Israel is permanent. Even when Israel was expelled from their land, which has happened twice in history, God promised they would return: “Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the LORD your God will gather you and bring you back. He will bring you to the land that belonged to your ancestors, and you will take possession of it” (Deuteronomy 30:4–5). This promise is part of what is today sometimes called the Palestinian Covenant or the Land Covenant (Deuteronomy 29:1—30:10)."

What is the land that God promised to Israel? | GotQuestions.org

taxme · November 23, 2023

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Who said that they never released any prisoners?

They released 1 dead prisoner and two that were alive but abused.

Israel doesn't keep innocent civilians as meat shields or hostages.

They keep actual prisoners in jail, and considering that the majority of Palestinians are terrorism supporters, any time they pick someone up there's better than a 50% chance that they're involved in terrorism.

You're a terrorist supporter because you deny events that we all know to have occurred, stupid.

Then you were pretending that only Israel was at war while Hamas was still launching thousands of boms at Israeli homes.

Now you're pretending that Hamas is working in good faith by "releasing hostages" when they've released 1% of their hostages after almost 2 months.

You're truly revolting.

Do you work for the PR department of the Israeli government? It sure looks that way to me. Nice try, bozo, but you still have not convinced me that Israel is the good guy here and the Palestinian people are the bad guys here. The Palestinian people are the real victims here, all 14,000 of them are dead. If that is not genocide of a people by the Israeli government well what the phk is? If you have a problem with Hamas, well, that is your problem and not mine.

I am revolting to you because i do not kiss Israel's butt like you do. I do not have to agree with you that Israel is the victim here. Israel is far from being seen as a victim anymore. So, STFU. Works for me. ?

WestCanMan · November 23, 2023

9 minutes ago, taxme said:

Do you work for the PR department of the Israeli government? It sure looks that way to me. Nice try, bozo, but you still have not convinced me that Israel is the good guy here and the Palestinian people are the bad guys here. The Palestinian people are the real victims here, all 14,000 of them are dead. If that is not genocide of a people by the Israeli government well what the phk is? If you have a problem with Hamas, well, that is your problem and not mine.

I am revolting to you because i do not kiss Israel's butt like you do. I do not have to agree with you that Israel is the victim here. Israel is far from being seen as a victim anymore. So, STFU. Works for me. ?

I can agree that there's a problem that the Israelis and Palestinians need to sort out, but the Arab world laughed it off when Pakistan did 1,000x more than Israel ever did, so they're definitely not involved in this from a humanitarian POV. They're here to stir the religious bigotry pot. And here you are with your own spoon in that bowl, stirring up hatred towards Israel.

CdnFox · November 23, 2023

53 minutes ago, marcus said:

Your kind of thinking is becoming obsolete.

It has no basis in humanity. It has no basis in international law.

Your advocacy is archaic, inhumane and is being rejected.

I don't care for Hamas. They're just a tool used by Zionists to try to justify and explain away the atrocities being committed by the vile state of Israel against the Palestinians.

Israel's inhumane treatment of people is worse than the Chinese government's treatment of people. Israel is worse than the Russian government. They are killing more innocent people than the Iranian government.

Israel is the enemy of humanity.

My buddies are the innocent civilians that are being killed. You may have racist views of Palestinians, and want to advocate for their death, but I won't and I will continue to speak out against advocates of death and destruction.

Look, we've been over this.

You have absolutely nothing to back up your bullcrap. Israel has not been charged - you crybaby like mad about the 'crimes against humanity' they have done in your mind but have no problem with the actual crimes hamas did. You want everything to be israel's fault and it just isn't.

You want 100 years of history to somehow factor into this and it doesn't. What started this war was hamas killing a bunch of people. Now there's a war and israel will stop when hamas surrenders or is defeated entirely. In the prosecution of that war a bunch of civillians are going to get killed, especially seeing as hamas is trying to use them as shields.

Those are the facts - anything in addition to that is largely bullshit. Gaza started a war - gaza is getting it's ass kicked. And that's largely how it should be - a warning to others not to start wars. War is a severely bad thing.

taxme · November 23, 2023

30 minutes ago, blackbird said:

"There is probably no more disputed real estate on earth than the land of Israel. Even calling it “Israel” will raise objections from some quarters. The Jewish people lay claim to the land because they first held possession of it millennia ago and because God directly gave them the land, as recorded in the Bible.

In Genesis 12:7, God promises Abram, who had just arrived in Canaan, “To your offspring I will give this land.” Later, in Genesis 15:18, God expands on that unconditional promise: “To your descendants I have given this land, From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates” (NASB). Then, in Genesis 17:8, God reiterates the promise to Abraham, adding that the land gift is irrevocable: “The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you.” God later repeats the promise to Abraham’s son Isaac (Genesis 26:3–4) and Isaac’s son Jacob (Genesis 28:13), whose name God later changed to Israel.

In the Abrahamic Covenant, then, God laid out the extent of the land that would belong to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob—a territory including all of Canaan and stretching from Egypt to modern-day Iraq. Several centuries later, when it came time for the Israelites actually take possession of the Promised Land, God again spoke of a vast area “from the Negev wilderness in the south to the Lebanon mountains in the north, from the Euphrates River in the east to the Mediterranean Sea in the west, including all the land of the Hittites” (Joshua 1:4, NLT).

The promise of land belonging to the children of Israel is permanent. Even when Israel was expelled from their land, which has happened twice in history, God promised they would return: “Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the LORD your God will gather you and bring you back. He will bring you to the land that belonged to your ancestors, and you will take possession of it” (Deuteronomy 30:4–5). This promise is part of what is today sometimes called the Palestinian Covenant or the Land Covenant (Deuteronomy 29:1—30:10)."

What is the land that God promised to Israel? | GotQuestions.org

It is disputed land alright. So, your god said, screw the Palestinians, i am going to take their land away from them and hand it over to my chosen people. And here i thought that all gods children were precious to him and would not pick and choose as to who he prefers more to love. You bible thumpers are sure something else indeed. And you like the preach the word of your god who decided to treat me, a gentile, like a second class citizen. Deplorable indeed.

But one thing i can never figure out is why god would create two classes of his children when we are all supposed to have been born as one big happy family and not be divided into a Jewish class and a gentile class. Right now, i am feeling left out in gods family. ?

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

“And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” Genesis 12:3 KJV This is speaking of antisemites.

Oh, FFS. ?

taxme · November 23, 2023

19 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Look, we've been over this.

You have absolutely nothing to back up your bullcrap. Israel has not been charged - you crybaby like mad about the 'crimes against humanity' they have done in your mind but have no problem with the actual crimes hamas did. You want everything to be israel's fault and it just isn't.

You want 100 years of history to somehow factor into this and it doesn't. What started this war was hamas killing a bunch of people. Now there's a war and israel will stop when hamas surrenders or is defeated entirely. In the prosecution of that war a bunch of civillians are going to get killed, especially seeing as hamas is trying to use them as shields.

Those are the facts - anything in addition to that is largely bullshit. Gaza started a war - gaza is getting it's ass kicked. And that's largely how it should be - a warning to others not to start wars. War is a severely bad thing.

You are so full of bullshit. Israel has been killing innocent Palestinians for decades. There would probably no Hamas if Israel had treated the Palestinian people with respect. But they did not, and thus, they brought this war on, and not Hamas nor the Palestinian people. Smarten up, will you.

Stop trying to be an apologist for that shitty little country called Israel, as one diplomat called Israel several years ago at the UN. Israel has nothing to offer the rest of the Arab world but grief and sorrow. Israel would not exist today if it were not for American taxpayer's tax dollars. You must know that by now, eh? Smarten up, will you.

But by kicking Hamas in the butt, they are also killing many innocent Palestinian men and children in the process. Smarten up, will you. ?

WestCanMan · November 23, 2023

23 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You want 100 years of history to somehow factor into this and it doesn't.

No, he wants selected bits of history from the last 75 years to count and he wants to ignore everything else.

If you just cherry-pick bits and pieces of it all, it's so much easier to get your hate on.

He's taking confirmation bias to a genocidal level, as all good religious bigots do.

"OMG, LOOK WHAT IT SAYS IN THEIR BIBLE! THEY'RE SO ATROCIOUS! AND LOOK WHAT THE POOBAHDEENS DID TO THE TORFIKRULITES IN 1046 BC! Luckily the Torfikrulites recorded an exact, authentic historical account of what happened, that we can all trust, because everyone else lied about it. NEVER FOGET 1046 BC!!!! (but forget everything before and after teehehe, right up until 1893)"

WestCanMan · November 23, 2023

1 minute ago, taxme said:

You are so full of bullshit. Israel has been killing innocent Palestinians for decades. There would probably no Hamas if Israel had treated the Palestinian people with respect. But they did not, and thus, they brought this war on, and not Hamas nor the Palestinian people. Smarten up, will you.

Stop trying to be an apologist for that shitty little country called Israel, as one diplomat called Israel several years ago at the UN. Israel has nothing to offer the rest of the Arab world but grief and sorrow. Israel would not exist today if it were not for American taxpayer's tax dollars. You must know that by now, eh? Smarten up, will you.

But by kicking Hamas in the butt, they are also killing many innocent Palestinian men and children in the process. Smarten up, will you. ?

What happened before 1948, stupid?

What happened the very day that Israel existed, dude?

What happened under 600 years of Ottoman rule?

What happened to Jews in the Arab states that sided with Hitler?

What BS start date do you want to use, stupid?

Why do you even care about this? 14K dead people is a lot less than 5 million, so shouldn't you be hating on Pakistan instead of Israel, stupid?

The Israelis would have to kill 14K people every day for over a year to tie the Pakistanis in genocides. Why do no Arabs hate Pakistan? Do you think that maybe religious bigotry has everything to do with Iran's concern for the Palestinians?

taxme · November 23, 2023

32 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I can agree that there's a problem that the Israelis and Palestinians need to sort out, but the Arab world laughed it off when Pakistan did 1,000x more than Israel ever did, so they're definitely not involved in this from a humanitarian POV. They're here to stir the religious bigotry pot. And here you are with your own spoon in that bowl, stirring up hatred towards Israel.

On the contrary, Israel is stirring up more hatred upon themselves. Look at all the anti-Israeli demonstrations going on around the world. No one really likes or trust's Israel anymore. Only America loves Israel. Nobody really gives a crap about Pakistan. It's all and only about Israel. The world must always bend down and kiss the ring of Israel. Pretty much all of the politicians in Canada and America have to go visit Israel to show their loyalty to Israel. If they do not, their political careers could be in jeopardy. Believe it or not. ?

taxme · November 23, 2023

10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

What happened before 1948, stupid?

What happened the very day that Israel existed, dude?

What happened under 600 years of Ottoman rule?

What happened to Jews in the Arab states that sided with Hitler?

What BS start date do you want to use, stupid?

Why do you even care about this? 14K dead people is a lot less than 5 million, so shouldn't you be hating on Pakistan instead of Israel, stupid?

The Israelis would have to kill 14K people every day for over a year to tie the Pakistanis in genocides. Why do no Arabs hate Pakistan? Do you think that maybe religious bigotry has everything to do with Iran's concern for the Palestinians?

Go away, stupid. You bore me with your nonsense over and over replies about poor old Israel. Your buddies in Israel are killing a bunch of innocent people and you are all okay with it. You are a sad human being indeed. Yes really, you are.

We are not talking about Pakistan here. Just you. I could care less as to what happens in Pakistan. Pakistan has never done anything all that great for the world. Pakistan is just another shitty country like Israel is in the world. Live with it. ?

eyeball · November 23, 2023

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

What started this war was hamas killing a bunch of people

Nope. It started with Zionist terrorists killing a bunch of local people before there even was an Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

It's been tit for tat back and forth ever since.

blackbird · November 23, 2023

52 minutes ago, taxme said:

And you like the preach the word of your god who decided to treat me, a gentile, like a second class citizen. Deplorable indeed.

"God chose Israel for two main reasons. Firstly, He had promised Abraham that his descendants would become a great nation and occupy the land of Canaan 1. Secondly, God wanted Israel to be a model nation for all other nations to follow 12. The Israelites were chosen to become a model nation of God’s way of life, so that all people could have His blessings 1. God blessed Israel because of the faith and obedience of Abraham, but He made it clear it wasn’t because they were great or righteous 1. Unfortunately, they failed to be the model nation God desired; and because of their national sins, they incurred God’s punishment 1. God loves all people and He is now working spiritually with individuals from all nations."

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Gentiles are welcome in the Old Testament

Although God chose to work with the ancient nation of Israel, this decision did not exclude people from other nations (Gentiles) from understanding God and serving Him. God instructed the ancient Israelites to respect the people of other nationalities who came to live with them.

Regarding the observance of Passover (one of the festivals ordained by God in both the Old and New Testaments), God said: “But if a foreigner lives with you and wants to celebrate the Passover to the Eternal, he will celebrate it, and it will be like one of your nation; but no uncircumcised man may eat of it ”(Exodus 12:48). Because He was impartial to everyone, God continued: “The same law will apply to the native and the stranger who sojourns among you” (v. 49). God later added, “You shall neither deceive nor repent of the stranger, because you were a stranger in Egypt” (Exodus 22:21).

"A good example of God accepting the Gentiles in the Old Testament is found in the life of Ruth. Although she was a Moabite by birth (Ruth 1: 1-4), she came to respect and follow God. As Ruth told Naomi, her Israelite mother-in-law, after her husband’s untimely death: “Your people will be my people, and your God my God” (v. 16). So Ruth married an Israelite man named Boaz and became part of the family from which Jesus would come (Matthew 1: 1-16).

Gentiles are welcome to church

When the Holy Spirit was given to the followers of Jesus and the New Testament Church was founded on the day of Pentecost, the people of this first church were Jews (Acts 2: 5), one of the 12 tribes that made up ancient Israel. . Because God had specifically chosen and worked with their ancestors and now continued to do so, they considered themselves part of the “citizenship of Israel”, which gave them access to the “covenant of promise” (Ephesians 2:12).

These Jews who were the first Christians did not fully understand that God would also bring Gentiles to church. When God miraculously gave the Holy Spirit to a Gentile named Cornelius and his house, just as He had previously done to the Jews on the day of Pentecost, Peter and the members of the New Testament Church were able to understand that God was now calling to the gentiles.

The future of Israel

The ancient Israelites were taken captive for their sins and lost their national prominence, causing many to wonder why God chose Israel. Regardless, there is a bright future for these people. When Christ returns to this earth and establishes the kingdom of God, He will restore Israel to her position of leadership in the world (Isaiah 11:12; 14: 1-2). Then an obedient and humble people will play the role God assigned them."

Why did God choose Israel? - King James Version Bible (kjvonline.org)

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Right now, i am feeling left out in gods family. ?

The gospel has been preached in the world. You have heard it, but what you do with it is up to you. You can easily be part of God's family.

"12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." John 1:12, 13 KJV

WestCanMan · November 23, 2023

2 hours ago, taxme said:

Go away, stupid. You bore me with your nonsense over and over replies about poor old Israel. Your buddies in Israel are killing a bunch of innocent people and you are all okay with it. You are a sad human being indeed. Yes really, you are.

We are not talking about Pakistan here. Just you. I could care less as to what happens in Pakistan. Pakistan has never done anything all that great for the world. Pakistan is just another shitty country like Israel is in the world. Live with it. ?

You bore me with your Hamas talking points and your low IQ.

WestCanMan · November 23, 2023

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Nope. It started with Zionist terrorists killing a bunch of local people before there even was an Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

It's been tit for tat back and forth ever since.

Good job finding the one "large-scale" massacre of Palestinians by Jews. Geez, what a bunch of monsters.

FYI the Jews were massacred by Arabs many times before that in the past 100 years.

1830: The Persian Jewish population of Tabriz, Iran is attacked by a mob, resulting in most of the Jewish community either being killed or fleeing.^[3]
1830: The Jews of Shiraz are forced to convert to Islam.
1834: The 1834 looting of Safed was a month-long attack on the Jewish population of Safed by local Arab and Druze villagers. It was full of large scale looting, as well as the killing and raping of Jews and the destruction of many homes and synagogues. Before the attacks Jews made up over 50% of the population, but many of them fled to nearby cities which reduced their presence drastically.
1834: Jewish heroine and martyr Sol Hachuel is publicly decapitated at 17 years old in Fez, Morocco. She is executed for refusing to convert to Islam.
1839: Forty-plus Persian Jews are killed and the entire Jewish community of Mashhad is forced to convert to Islam in the Allahdad.^[6] Many of them practised Judaism in secret, which led to the Mashhadi Jews, whom today number in the thousands.
1840: The Damascus affair: false blood libel accusations cause arrests and atrocities, culminating in the seizure of 63 Jewish children and attacks on Jewish communities throughout the Middle East.
1860: The Jews of Hamadan are accused of mocking the Ta'zieh ceremonies for Imam Husain, several of them are fined and some have their ears and noses cut off as punishment.^[9]
1863: A Jew in Hamadan is lynched by a Muslim mob, and many others are severely injured after being accused of insulting Muhammad.^[10]
1864: At least 500 Moroccan Jews are massacred in Marrakech and Fez.
1866: The Jews of Barforush are forcibly converted to Islam. When they are allowed to revert to Judaism thanks to French and British ambassadors, a Muslim mob kills 18 Jews, burning two of them alive.^[11]^[12]
1869: 18 Tunisian Jews are killed in a pogrom and an Arab mob loots Jewish homes and stores, burns synagogues, on Jerba Island.
1875: Twenty Jews are killed by a Muslim mob in Demnat, Morocco.
1881: Pogrom against the Jews in Tlemcen, Algeria.^[18]
1882: Jewish population of Algiers is attacked by a Muslim mob.^[21]
1892: Mulla Abdullah issues a fatwa to kill all the Jews of Hamadan if they refuse to abide by Jewish restrictions. The local Persian Jews were later ordered to become Muslims or face death.^[23]
1897: Synagogues and Jewish homes are pillaged in Oran.^[24]
1897: Synagogues are ransacked and Jews are murdered in Tripolitania.^[25]
1898: Violent anti-Jewish riots erupt in Algiers.^[24]
1907: Over 60 Jews in the Mellah of Casablanca are killed in a pogrom by Kabyle Muslims. Many more were wounded, and a large number of women and children were carried off.^[3]
1910: The 1910 Shiraz blood libel was a pogrom of the Jewish quarter in Shiraz, Iran. It was sparked by accusations that the Jews had ritually murdered a Muslim girl. By the end of the pogrom, 12 Jews were killed, 50 or so were wounded, and 6,000 were robbed of all their possessions.
1912: The Tritl, or the 1912 Fez massacre left 42 Moroccan Jews dead.
1921: Jaffa riots in Palestine. The riot resulted in the deaths of 47 Jews and 48 Arabs. 146 Jews and 73 Arabs were wounded. Most Arab casualties resulted from clashes with British forces attempting to restore order.^[9]They attacked Jewish pedestrians and destroyed Jewish homes and stores. They beat and killed Jews in their homes, including children, and in some cases split open the victims' skulls.^[4]
1929: The ancient Jewish community of Hebron (Palestine/Israel) is massacred by local Muslims over rumors that the Jews were planning to seize control of the Temple Mount.^[19]
1929: 18–20 Jewish residents of Safed were brutally killed in the 1929 Palestine riots. Palestine again.
1934: 2,000 Afghani Jews are expelled from their towns and forced to live in the wilderness.
1934: The 1934 Thrace pogroms were a series of violent attacks that occurred in Tekirdağ, Edirne, Kırklareli, and Çanakkale. Over 15,000 Jews had to flee from the region.
1934: 34 Algerian Jews were killed and hundreds were injured by Muslim mobs during the 1934 Constantine pogrom. 200 Jewish stores were raided, the total property damage was estimated at over 150 million Poincare francs. It also sent a quarter of Constantine's Jewish population into poverty.^[25]
1936: The Bloody Day in Jaffa refers to various violent attacks on Jews in Jaffa by mobs of Muslims.
1938: Arab rioters rush into the Jewish Kiryat Shmuel neighborhood, killing 19 Jews, 11 of whom were children in the 1938 Tiberias massacre.
1941: The Farhud pogrom in Baghdad results in 780 Jews dead, over 1,000 wounded.^[45]
1941: Gabès pogrom in French Tunisia leaves 8 Jews dead and at least 20 wounded.
1945: The 1945 Tripoli pogrom was a violent massacre of the Jewish population of Tripoli by Muslim rioters. After days of violence 140+ Jews were dead and hundreds were injured. In the aftermath 4,000 Jews were left homeless and thousands were reduced to poverty. 9 Synagogues were destroyed, along with thousands of Jewish homes and businesses.
1945: The 1945 Anti-Jewish riots in Egypt started as an anti-Zionist demonstration, but it ended with the killing of 5 Egyptian Zionists by a Muslim mob and over 300 other Jews were injured.
1947: Anti-Jewish riots erupt in Aleppo, resulting in some 75 Jews murdered and several hundred wounded.
1947: A mob of Muslim sailors looted Jewish homes and shops in the Manama riots. In the end one Jewish woman was dead and a Synagogue was destroyed.

That's the list of massacres of Jews by muslims in the ME in just the last 118 years before the lone massacre of muslims that you cited from 1948. Keep in mind that in all of these places, the Jewish communities were quite tiny, and completely at the mercy of the muslim populations around them. They posed literally no threat to the muslim populations at all. They were only massacred out of pure religious bigotry.

It's worth noting that the highest estimate from massacre at Deir Yassin was 250 but most "scholars" (according to your own article) peg the number at less than half of that.

The Farhud attack alone was 700 dead jews, almost 7 times bigger than Deir Yassin. I listed about 35 different attacks on Jewish communities besides that one.

There are also a few massacres of Jews up there by Palestinians, preceding Deir Yassin by as much as 26 years.

Of course, all of this pales in comparison to what happened in Pakistan. You'd have to do a Deir Yassin every day for 10,000 days to equal what the Pkistanis did to Sikhs and Hindus, but for some reason (not religious bigotry ? ) Arabs are fixating on Deir Yassin.

@taxme this is for you too. I figure that you'd love to see a list of murdered Jewish communities. Sweet dreams, killer.

Edited November 23, 2023 by WestCanMan

CdnFox · November 23, 2023

5 hours ago, taxme said:

You are so full of bullshit. Israel has been killing innocent Palestinians for decades. There would probably no Hamas if Israel had treated the Palestinian people with respect. But they did not, and thus, they brought this war on, and not Hamas nor the Palestinian people. Smarten up, will you.

Stop trying to be an apologist for that shitty little country called Israel, as one diplomat called Israel several years ago at the UN. Israel has nothing to offer the rest of the Arab world but grief and sorrow. Israel would not exist today if it were not for American taxpayer's tax dollars. You must know that by now, eh? Smarten up, will you.

But by kicking Hamas in the butt, they are also killing many innocent Palestinian men and children in the process. Smarten up, will you. ?

Sorry kid. It's you who's full of it. What I said was the truth.

And lies just like yours are getting people killed in Gaza as we speak. If the people there faced the truth they wouldn't be in this mess.

I guess it'll take a few thousand more dead before it sinks in. You're wrong - people are dying over it. I'm right, and if they'd realize it they'd live and prosper.

For some reason you prefer death

CdnFox · November 23, 2023

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

Nope. It started with Zionist terrorists killing a bunch of local people before there even was an Israel.

It started on october 7th when hamas attacked.

Your kind of lies are what gazans are raised on - and now they're dying by the bucketload. Enjoy your slaughter.

betsy · November 23, 2023

13 hours ago, marcus said:

Hi Betsy.

Except that when you flatten blocks after blocks, killing thousands of civilians, including over 5000 children, then this is not called targeted killing. It's called genocide.

I hope you will find it in yourself to call out Israel's immoral behaviour. Be a better person.

:rolleyes:

Lol - there is no limit if tunnels - described as a labyrinth - are running under Gaza. Lol - we might see all of GAZA reduced to rubbles!

It's hard to look at Gazans as people when they have reduced themselves to become OBJECTS! They are............... walking shields! That includes CHILDREN and INFANTS - thanks to their parents, and leaders!

The devastation and blood in Gaza are all on HAMAS! And Gazans, who had collaborated with Hamas!

Be a well-thinking person, marcus.

Someone who's rooting for terrorists like Hamas, is just as bad as them.

The world - especially PALESTINIANS - will be better off without Hamas.

Edited November 23, 2023 by betsy

betsy · November 23, 2023

12 hours ago, taxme said:

We are talking about Palestinians and their problems with Israel bombing the shit out of them every day.

Jesus, how many Hamas prisoners does Israel have in their prisons? It would appear as though the Israelis have way more prisoners than Hamas. Maybe that is why the numbers are as they are. 3 - 1.

The issue is to stop the bombing of Gaza so no more innocent people have to die. Got that?

I know that the killing of innocent Palestinians is of no concern to you. You appear to cheer it on? It's all about Israel to you, right?

I don't see any problems with Israel bombing them every freaking day!

Imho - they shouldn't stop! Got that?

Lol - when you're at war - the objective is to win, and to win as fast as you can! Especially when this is about SURVIVAL!

Had the tables been turned, you think Hamas would relent? It's goal is to eliminate Israel! To do GENOCIDE!

You think Gazans would care?

It's either Israel or them. :shrug:

Who wants to see terrorists win? I surely don't! Just like what many sane, practical people think - I think Israel is doing PALESTINIANS - and the world - a big favor.

Hamas should be dealt with like ISIS.

Edited November 23, 2023 by betsy

eyeball · November 23, 2023

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It started on october 7th when hamas attacked.

Your kind of lies are what gazans are raised on - and now they're dying by the bucketload. Enjoy your slaughter.

Feel free to go edit history, that's what it's there for.

WestCanMan · November 23, 2023

15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Feel free to go edit history, that's what it's there for.

Ohhhh, look who showed up here. I honestly thought that'd you cut and run from this thread, as usual.

Can you please continue your sermon about "The absolute, finite start date of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict"? I value your historical knowledge ?

WestCanMan · November 23, 2023

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Feel free to go edit history, that's what it's there for.

Feel free to keep your head in your ass with your own revisionist version of history, apparently that's all it's good for.

eyeball · November 23, 2023

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Feel free to keep your head in your ass with your own revisionist version of history, apparently that's all it's good for.

Like I said your free to go edit history. I'm actually surprised you whiny little shits that cry about the MSM and fake news haven't taken over Wiki to produce a historical record that's more to your liking.

But as usual there's no courage or conviction so...

taxme · November 23, 2023

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It started on october 7th when hamas attacked.

Your kind of lies are what gazans are raised on - and now they're dying by the bucketload. Enjoy your slaughter.

"Enjoy your slaughter". What a sick pathetic non-human thing to say. You just showed us all that Jews are enjoying the slaughter of innocent human beings, like innocent women and children, who are the victims in this war by Israel against the Palestinian people. Go away you sick and pathetic poc. ?

taxme · November 23, 2023

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry kid. It's you who's full of it. What I said was the truth.

And lies just like yours are getting people killed in Gaza as we speak. If the people there faced the truth they wouldn't be in this mess.

I guess it'll take a few thousand more dead before it sinks in. You're wrong - people are dying over it. I'm right, and if they'd realize it they'd live and prosper.

For some reason you prefer death

The real truth is that Israel has been treating the Palestinian people with death for decades now. You know nothing about the truth. You and your zionist ilk only know as to how to lie and spread bullshit. Now that is the truth. ?

taxme · November 23, 2023

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry kid. It's you who's full of it. What I said was the truth.

And lies just like yours are getting people killed in Gaza as we speak. If the people there faced the truth they wouldn't be in this mess.

I guess it'll take a few thousand more dead before it sinks in. You're wrong - people are dying over it. I'm right, and if they'd realize it they'd live and prosper.

For some reason you prefer death

I have read enough of your shit, so now i think that i will go and have a shit. ?