Hamas Attacks Israel

[CITIZEN_2015]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Ireland?!?

 

May be he meant deserts of Iran not Ireland since they spell almost alike.

Arab innigrants are not welcomed in Iran anyhow.

 

Edited November 5, 2023 by CITIZEN_2015

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

May be he meant deserts of Iran not Ireland since they spell almost alike.

Arab innigrants are not welcomed in Iran anyhow.

 

Not sure how welcome they'd be in Ireland either truth be told  

[NAME REMOVED]

20 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

May be he meant deserts of Iran not Ireland since they spell almost alike.

Arab innigrants are not welcomed in Iran anyhow.

 

Where are they welcome (aside from Canada)?

[marcus]

Haven't been here in a while.

My heart goes out to the 1600 Israeli civilians and the over 10,000 Palestinian civilians, many of them children who have been killed in the latest attacks.

For the first time, I am seeing a little more balance in perspectives when it comes to media. This is mostly because the mainstream media no longer has monopoly over which perspective gets out.

As much as the mainstream media and the western governments are trying to push that this started on October 7th, people now have access to more information through youtube, twitter, and at universities.

This started more than a century ago when Europeans countries wanted to remove Jews out of their countries and Zionism was born. The first waves of Jewish refugees were turned away from the UK, the US and most central European countries. After considering different locations around the world, including Argentina, Uganda, Morocco and a few other locations, it was decided that they'd create a homeland in Palestine. 

The problem with that decision was that the indigenous population didn't really have a say in this decision. Of course, colonialism was the norm back then and local populations in Asia and Africa were never consulted.

The population of Palestine in early 1900's was around 90% Palestinian Muslim, 8% Palestinian Christians and 2% Palestinian Jews, according to British census. Then the European Jews started arriving. Many European Jews didn't really want to go that land at first, but when United States past a law against allowing any more Jews to migrate to the U.S. in the 1920s, and eventually, when the holocaust happened, things changed rapidly. That's when the local Arab population started to become uncomfortable with the big wave of Jews coming into their land. 

The clashes started when the Israeli militias (terrorist groups as the British called them) in the 1940s, started attacking Palestinian Arabs and some British soldiers. The Irgun, one of these militia groups was led by Begin, who later became the first Israeli prime minister. 

Here is another well researched and balanced history of the region:

Anyway, the history of this region and the control over the changing narrative in the West is quite fascinating to witness.

Here is an example how we are seeing a shift in what is allowed to be discussed where we're seeing more than just one perspective:

 

 

Edited November 7, 2023 by marcus

[marcus]

The propaganda battle is at an all time high. 

I really enjoyed this meme:

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 11/5/2023 at 6:47 PM, CdnFox said:

It just seemed oddly specific.  "They could be sent to the desert!! Or the sea!! Or 145B Blakely Crescent in Dublin, ring twice before entering!"

It’s because the Irish government has long supported the Palestinian cause. The conflict became a proxy for the Northern Irish one, with Protestants supporting Israel and Catholics Palestine. 

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

It’s because the Irish government has long supported the Palestinian cause. The conflict became a proxy for the Northern Irish one, with Protestants supporting Israel and Catholics Palestine. 

Did not know that.  Interesting.

[Guest]

Just saw this.

This sort of brings light to a bit of a double standard.

For those who can't see the link, its essentially a video of a growing trend in Israel, where influencers ridicule Palestinians. Often while flicking lights on and off (mocking their lack of electricity), or drinking water (mocking the latter shortage).

While its not reflecting on an entire population, its a growing trend, and puts a bit of a magnifying glass on the racism that Palestinians face in Israel.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Just saw this.

This sort of brings light to a bit of a double standard.

For those who can't see the link, its essentially a video of a growing trend in Israel, where influencers ridicule Palestinians. Often while flicking lights on and off (mocking their lack of electricity), or drinking water (mocking the latter shortage).

While its not reflecting on an entire population, its a growing trend, and puts a bit of a magnifying glass on the racism that Palestinians face in Israel.

It doesn't.  Just to be clear i think it's not ok to mock other people like that but it's pretty prevelant and not 'racism' related.

You get influencers mocking ANYONE different all over the web.  Republicans mocking dems, dems mocking republicans, gays mocking straights, straights mocking gays,  pretty much every state mocking other states, literally everyone mocking france, tonnes of german mockery etc.  

Right now there's a bit of a war going on after a horrible event. There is GOING to be mockery. period. Even if they were the same race.  It's partly a coping mechanism for some people, it's partly bitter laughter at the fate of their attackers, and a bunch of other reasons as well.

But it does not represent racism or anyting that the palestinians face 'day to day' - other than those days where they recently started a war in a horrific way.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It's partly a coping mechanism for some people

But some Palestinians are getting bullied regarding land in the west Bank.

Some are getting killed and assaulted for less.

It being approved doesn't reflect on the people approving of it?

Putting a spotlight on some discriminatory practices?

 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

But some Palestinians are getting bullied regarding land in the west Bank.

 

Waaaaah.  Some people everywhere are getting bullied. Take a look at what's happening here with the jews being harassed. I don't approve of it but to make general statements about how it's racists just doesn't work,

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Some are getting killed and assaulted for less.

Who? How many? Are they having rockets fired at them every day? no? Hard to compare it then.  Certainly doesn't speak to the 'racism' of jewish people in general.

People every day are picked on because they're fat or ugly or smart or stupid or conservative or liberal or redheads or blondes or male or female or poor or short or tall or asian/white/black/latino or (god help us all) irish. 

This is what happens when people see someone else as different.  IF we don't like that person or that group for any reason we tend to mock the differences.

Attempting to claim that this is proof that all israelis are racists is... well... kind of racist.  Bigoted at least.

You're a tad off base on this one i i think. When two peoples are at war it's expected that there will be a little hostility between them and mockery is certainly normal. You should see some of the cartoons that came out in ww2 - "You're a sap mr jap," and so on  

[marcus]

It's important to look at the Israeli government's own words, where they promote genocide and ethnic cleansing:

 

 

Edited November 13, 2023 by marcus

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, marcus said:

It's important to look at the Israeli government's own words, where they promote genocide and ethnic cleansing:

 

 

it's important not to waste our time with terrorist propaganda that's been spliced to be taken out of context.

If you just post crap like that and expect people to watch it without you even making a point then you're basically admitting you're wrong, you can't make an argument and you hope this will somehow distract people.

Do you have something specific you can point to right now and actually articulate in what is going on that you feel is wrong, and why?  And if it's "oh the terrorist supporters are getting killed' - yeah.  we've been over that. THat's what happens when you line them up in front of your soldiers and then shoot over their heads.

[marcus]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

it's important not to waste our time with terrorist propaganda that's been spliced to be taken out of context.

If you just post crap like that and expect people to watch it without you even making a point then you're basically admitting you're wrong, you can't make an argument and you hope this will somehow distract people.

Do you have something specific you can point to right now and actually articulate in what is going on that you feel is wrong, and why?  And if it's "oh the terrorist supporters are getting killed' - yeah.  we've been over that. THat's what happens when you line them up in front of your soldiers and then shoot over their heads.

I am posting comments coming from Israeli politicians and leaders to show their intent. Are you seriously trying to deny what they have said? Posting their own words is "propaganda"? 

What Israel is doing is by the very definition of international law, a genocide. Of course, they will deny this to the western audiences, in order to win their support, because without the green light from the U.S., Israel would not be able to do this.

Every international human rights organizations, including HRW and Amnesty, plus Israel's own Btselem is concluding that Israel is committing war crimes with their collective punishment, the bombing of hospitals, schools, churches and mosques. It's also against international law to turn off electricity and water, and to stop food from reaching civilians.

We are witnessing one of the worst atrocities since ISIS rampaged through Iraq. 

The only difference is that Israel is using planes and tanks.

[marcus]

On 11/12/2023 at 6:50 PM, Perspektiv said:

Just saw this.

This sort of brings light to a bit of a double standard.

For those who can't see the link, its essentially a video of a growing trend in Israel, where influencers ridicule Palestinians. Often while flicking lights on and off (mocking their lack of electricity), or drinking water (mocking the latter shortage).

While its not reflecting on an entire population, its a growing trend, and puts a bit of a magnifying glass on the racism that Palestinians face in Israel.

It's SO strange seeing a group who once experienced genocide and persecution, is now doing it to others.

It's sickening to be frank.

That said, it's amazing to see some of the loudest voices against Israel's genocide are Jews from around the world.

 

[Fluffypants]

10 hours ago, marcus said:

It's SO strange seeing a group who once experienced genocide and persecution, is now doing it to others.

It's sickening to be frank.

That said, it's amazing to see some of the loudest voices against Israel's genocide are Jews from around the world.

 

Genocide? Really? If Israel wanted to commit Genocide they would blow up the entire Gaza strip and West Bank with impunity to start with. Then round up all the Muslims in Israel and execute them.

They have been calling what Israels have been doing for years genocide and yet the Palestinian population keeps on growing somehow. I bet the Jewish population in Nazi controlled areas didn't go up during their occupation.

I don't think you really know what Genocide is.

Edited November 14, 2023 by Fluffypants

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, marcus said:

I am posting comments coming from Israeli politicians and leaders to show their intent.

Not really. You're taking things out of context without discussion to create a false narrative.  Not the same thing.

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Are you seriously trying to deny what they have said? Posting their own words is "propaganda"? 

It's pretty easy to cut and paste things to give an impression. 

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What Israel is doing is by the very definition of international law, a genocide.

It is literally - by definition of international law - absolutely not a genocide. It's not even close. It's not even in the ballpark.

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Every international human rights organizations, including HRW and Amnesty, plus Israel's own Btselem is concluding that Israel is committing war crimes with their collective punishment,

Nope.  And frankly the more important thing is the body responsible for determining that, the un, doesn't claim that.

 

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the bombing of hospitals, schools, churches and mosques. It's also against international law to turn off electricity and water, and to stop food from reaching civilians.

Nope.  International law is CLEAR that the MOMENT that the enemy uses one of those facilities as a base or to shelter combatants or to store supplies it loses it's protections entirely. And Hamas has done that.

 

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We are witnessing one of the worst atrocities since ISIS rampaged through Iraq. 

Nope, not even close.  This is just war.  Now - granted, war is bad. It's a terrible thing.

But - the ONLY "guilty" party here is hamas. THey built their bases in hospitals, schools, mosques - then they launched a merciless attack that actually WAS genocidal and targeting civillians specifically with no military target at all, and then when israel told the people to leave varous areas Hamas forced them to stay and now hides behind them.

But you want to blame israel.

Kid -  if israel put its guns down tomorrow there would be a second holocaust.  if Gaza put its guns down tomorrow there would be peace and an end to the deaths. Hamas are the bad guys bent on genocide, and they must be wiped from the face of the earth if there is ever to be peace.

The only difference is that Israel is using planes and tanks.

[WestCanMan]

 

[marcus]

On 11/14/2023 at 10:08 AM, CdnFox said:

Not really. You're taking things out of context without discussion to create a false narrative.  Not the same thing.

It's pretty easy to cut and paste things to give an impression. 

No. You are wrong. There is no ambiguity.

When they say Palestinians are "human animals" repeatedly, say they are going to level Gaza, turn off their electricity and water, AND actually carry out these war crimes, it's pretty clear what these war criminals mean.

On 11/14/2023 at 10:08 AM, CdnFox said:

It is literally - by definition of international law - absolutely not a genocide. It's not even close. It's not even in the ballpark.

Nope.  And frankly the more important thing is the body responsible for determining that, the un, doesn't claim that.

You are wrong again.

Perhaps before typing, go and look up the meaning. 

Definition

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

1. Killing members of the group;
2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

Israel is committing genocide.

Ref: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

 

On 11/14/2023 at 10:08 AM, CdnFox said:

 

Nope.  International law is CLEAR that the MOMENT that the enemy uses one of those facilities as a base or to shelter combatants or to store supplies it loses it's protections entirely. And Hamas has done that.

Wrong again. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. Or maybe you do, and you are purposely spreading misinformation. I don't know what your motives are.

I've already corrected you once. The rest, you can do on your own, by looking the information up. But I have suspicion that you're not here to learn.

 

On 11/14/2023 at 10:08 AM, CdnFox said:

 

Nope, not even close.  This is just war.  Now - granted, war is bad. It's a terrible thing.

But - the ONLY "guilty" party here is hamas. THey built their bases in hospitals, schools, mosques - then they launched a merciless attack that actually WAS genocidal and targeting civillians specifically with no military target at all, and then when israel told the people to leave varous areas Hamas forced them to stay and now hides behind them.

But you want to blame israel.

Israel is a rogue state, an apartheid state, and has committed war crimes.

The U.S., unsurprisingly, has corrupted politicians. The Palestinians don't have powerful lobby groups to donate to politicians like Israel has.

Biden has received millions of dollars from pro-Israeli lobby groups throughout his career and that has everything to do with him accepting yet another round of genocide by Israel.

Learn more: 

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?cycle=2020&ind=Q05

 

 

 

On 11/14/2023 at 10:08 AM, CdnFox said:

Kid -  if israel put its guns down tomorrow there would be a second holocaust.  if Gaza put its guns down tomorrow there would be peace and an end to the deaths. Hamas are the bad guys bent on genocide, and they must be wiped from the face of the earth if there is ever to be peace.

The only difference is that Israel is using planes and tanks.

I don't think anyone who is able to research and think would believe that if Hamas put its guns down, everything would be roses.

The West Bank has no Hamas and look at the way Israel continues to practice their apartheid against them. 

Israel doesn't need to put it's guns down. What they need to do is to stop being terrorist state and commiting crimes against humanity.

F*ck Israel. F*ck Hamas. F*ck anyone who tries to excuse these terrorist groups.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, marcus said:

Israel is committing genocide.

You're using the word genocide the same way that sexual assault is used now, which lessens the meaning of the word.

If the quarterback dates a cheerleader, and they strip down to almost nothing, and then he slides his hand into her panties without permission it's a "sexual assault". If some dudes break into the house of a woman they don't know and force her to have sex it's also a "sexual assault".

Same term - two completely different meanings.

In the old days we'd say "whatever" and "gang rape" and everyone would know what we were talking about. 

When Pakistan commits one of their genocides, every 30 years or so, there are enough dead bodies to block the Mississippi. The Israeli genocide that you're talking about won't generate enough bodies to block a stream.

Same term - two completely different meanings.

When we say "Hamas wants to commit genocide against the Jews", we don't mean "They'd like to cause serious bodily or mental harm to members of the Jewish community", we mean "They said that they want to kill every last Jew on the planet." 

Same term - two completely different meanings.

The English language used to have meaning, but liberalism has destroyed that entirely. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, marcus said:

No. You are wrong. There is no ambiguity.

Sorry kid, there is,

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When they say Palestinians are "human animals" repeatedly, say they are going to level Gaza, turn off their electricity and water, AND actually carry out these war crimes, it's pretty clear what these war criminals mean.

Not a war crime to cut water and electricity to terrorists, and if they're hiding behind the population that's legit. You'll notice no other alligned countries freaked out about it.

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You are wrong again.

Perhaps before typing, go and look up the meaning. 

Definition

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

 

Sorry kid - you missed the critical part. "with the intent to destroy the nation".   Intent.  They intend to destroy hamas, not the nation. Hamas happens to be hiding behind the nation. Unfortuately for the nation that means that when they die as the israelis target hamas, it is NOT genocide. Because the intent is to destroy the military capability of gaza, not the nation of gaza.

Swing and a miss  

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Israel is committing genocide.

Nope - sorry.  And that's why nobody who's actually a gov't official or the UN is calling it genocide. It isn't.

 

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Wrong again. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. Or maybe you do, and you are purposely spreading misinformation. I don't know what your motives are.

Truth and hoensty - you should look into it

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Israel is a rogue state, an apartheid state, and has committed war crimes.

Nope nope and maybe, but not right now.

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The U.S., unsurprisingly, has corrupted politicians. The Palestinians don't have powerful lobby groups to donate to politicians like Israel has.

That's because nobody wants to support people who burn babies.

 

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I don't think anyone who is able to research and think would believe that if Hamas put its guns down, everything would be roses.

Then you're a 1diot.  If gaza stopped trying to kill the israelis there would be peace. period.

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The West Bank has no Hamas and look at the way Israel continues to practice their apartheid against them. 

But they do  - they're just not the gov't.  Israel was happily negotiating peace with the west bank less than a decade ago when the west bank politiicans reached out and struck an agreement with Hamas.  Israel left the table at that point.

Israel will accept peace - when others in the region decide that's what they want, we'll have peace. 

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Israel doesn't need to put it's guns down. What they need to do is to stop being terrorist state and commiting crimes against humanity.

They're not a 'terrorist' state and they're not committing crimes against humanity.

If they're attacked they attack back and that's their right.  There's frequent skirmishing between the two but that isn't 'terrorism' either.

There can NEVER be peace without the palestinians agreeing that israel has a right to exist and that they want to live in peace with them if possible.

 

[marcus]

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry kid, there is,

Not a war crime to cut water and electricity to terrorists, and if they're hiding behind the population that's legit. You'll notice no other alligned countries freaked out about it.

Are you the forum troll?

Politicians are not experts on international law. Just like you are not. Politicians like Biden have received millions from Pro-Israeli lobby groups in the U.S. and he is now returning the favour. Those who have not received money are speaking the truth.

Learn more: 

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?cycle=2020&ind=Q05

If you look at the organizations that are experts in this area, it's quite obvious that Israel is committing genocide. Of course, all of this needs to be investigated, which Israel will try to prevent. However, Israel is an apartheid state and regularly commits war crimes. This has been going on for decades.

Here is the full report.

This is your chance to learn.

Here is more reading material:

There is more that you can learn. Lots more.

Re: Genocide

Is what’s happening now a genocide? 

Raz Segal, the program director of genocide studies at Stockton University, concretely says it is a “textbook case of genocide.” Segal believes that Israeli forces are completing three genocidal acts, including, “killing, causing serious bodily harm, and measures calculated to bring about the destruction of the group.” He points to the mass levels of destruction and total siege of basic necessities—like water, food, fuel, and medical supplies—as evidence.

He says Israeli leaders expressed “explicit, clear, and direct statements of intent,” pointing to Israeli President Isaac Herzog’s statement during an Oct. 13 press conference. In his statement, Herzog said, “It’s an entire nation that is out there that’s responsible. It’s not true, this rhetoric about civilians not aware, not involved. It’s absolutely not true,” Herzog said. “They could have risen up, they could have fought against that evil regime which took over Gaza in a coup d'etat.” (Herzog later said that he is not holding the civilians of Gaza responsible for keeping Hamas in political power, when asked to clarify by a journalist at the same press conference.) Segal says that this language conflates all Palestinians as “an enemy population,” which could help prove intent.

https://ccrjustice.org/sites/default/files/attach/2023/11/Historians Declaration_w.pdf

 

 

 

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, marcus said:

Are you the forum troll?

Are you the village !diot?

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Politicians are not experts on international law. Just like you are not.

And then you go on to quote a bunch of politicians and academics who are not experts in international law.

So... here's the thing.  Nobody who actually IS an expert or who is in charge of enforcing international law is claiming there's any war crimes or genocide going on. 

Period.

Other than the obvious war crime that stated this whole mess in october.

So - you can crybaby to your hear'ts content but at the end of the day the gazans are still going to get the hell pounded out of them and slaughtered in large numbers until hamas gives up, stops hiding behind people, or is defeated.

It's 100 percent the Gazan's choice. They could admit they lost the war that they started and this would be over.

[Legato]

47 minutes ago, marcus said:

Are you the forum troll?

Politicians are not experts on international law. Just like you are not. Politicians like Biden have received millions from Pro-Israeli lobby groups in the U.S. and he is now returning the favour. Those who have not received money are speaking the truth.

Learn more: 

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?cycle=2020&ind=Q05

If you look at the organizations that are experts in this area, it's quite obvious that Israel is committing genocide. Of course, all of this needs to be investigated, which Israel will try to prevent. However, Israel is an apartheid state and regularly commits war crimes. This has been going on for decades.

Here is the full report.

This is your chance to learn.

Here is more reading material:

There is more that you can learn. Lots more.

Re: Genocide

Is what’s happening now a genocide? 

Raz Segal, the program director of genocide studies at Stockton University, concretely says it is a “textbook case of genocide.” Segal believes that Israeli forces are completing three genocidal acts, including, “killing, causing serious bodily harm, and measures calculated to bring about the destruction of the group.” He points to the mass levels of destruction and total siege of basic necessities—like water, food, fuel, and medical supplies—as evidence.

He says Israeli leaders expressed “explicit, clear, and direct statements of intent,” pointing to Israeli President Isaac Herzog’s statement during an Oct. 13 press conference. In his statement, Herzog said, “It’s an entire nation that is out there that’s responsible. It’s not true, this rhetoric about civilians not aware, not involved. It’s absolutely not true,” Herzog said. “They could have risen up, they could have fought against that evil regime which took over Gaza in a coup d'etat.” (Herzog later said that he is not holding the civilians of Gaza responsible for keeping Hamas in political power, when asked to clarify by a journalist at the same press conference.) Segal says that this language conflates all Palestinians as “an enemy population,” which could help prove intent.

https://ccrjustice.org/sites/default/files/attach/2023/11/Historians Declaration_w.pdf

 

 

 

You must really enjoy slothing around the bottom of barrels trying to glean tidbits of desperation to bolster these ridiculous claims.

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, marcus said:

Are you the forum troll?

Politicians are not experts on international law. Just like you are not. Politicians like Biden have received millions from Pro-Israeli lobby groups in the U.S. and he is now returning the favour. Those who have not received money are speaking the truth.

Learn more: 

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?cycle=2020&ind=Q05

If you look at the organizations that are experts in this area, it's quite obvious that Israel is committing genocide. Of course, all of this needs to be investigated, which Israel will try to prevent. However, Israel is an apartheid state and regularly commits war crimes. This has been going on for decades.

Here is the full report.

This is your chance to learn.

Here is more reading material:

There is more that you can learn. Lots more.

Re: Genocide

Is what’s happening now a genocide? 

Raz Segal, the program director of genocide studies at Stockton University, concretely says it is a “textbook case of genocide.” Segal believes that Israeli forces are completing three genocidal acts, including, “killing, causing serious bodily harm, and measures calculated to bring about the destruction of the group.” He points to the mass levels of destruction and total siege of basic necessities—like water, food, fuel, and medical supplies—as evidence.

He says Israeli leaders expressed “explicit, clear, and direct statements of intent,” pointing to Israeli President Isaac Herzog’s statement during an Oct. 13 press conference. In his statement, Herzog said, “It’s an entire nation that is out there that’s responsible. It’s not true, this rhetoric about civilians not aware, not involved. It’s absolutely not true,” Herzog said. “They could have risen up, they could have fought against that evil regime which took over Gaza in a coup d'etat.” (Herzog later said that he is not holding the civilians of Gaza responsible for keeping Hamas in political power, when asked to clarify by a journalist at the same press conference.) Segal says that this language conflates all Palestinians as “an enemy population,” which could help prove intent.

https://ccrjustice.org/sites/default/files/attach/2023/11/Historians Declaration_w.pdf

 

 

 

This is bullshit. Encyclopedia Britannica:

"Genocide, the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race. The term, derived from the Greek genos (“race,” “tribe,” or “nation”) and the Latin cide (“killing”)"

Gaza is not a nation. Not an ethnicity. Not a race.