CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: That's where the story ends. Children were killed. That is confirmed. Women were killed. That is confirmed. Your pathetic attempt to downplay it by saying "oh well there's some doubt as to whether the children were shot or beheaded so maybe it's not SOOO bad" is beyond disgusting. Oh, and you're little "We should punish the fighters who did it" line. As if they're the only ones responsible. As if this happened in a vaccume. We should "punsih" them - and we should also hold to account the political org that sent them - and the people who put that political org into power and sat idly by over YEARS while they preached the destruction of isreal. But most importantly eliminate the threat of it happening again. Disgusting to watch you attempt to 'minimize' their crimes like that. It is absolutely disgusting that you try to justify the mass murder of Palestinian women and children. This has always been your Zionist way. To justify mass murder and destruction by playing victims. What Israelis have been doing past 10 days is worst much worse than what Hamas did last Saturday. ISRAEL IS PROVEN ONCE MORE IT IS WORSE THAN THE TERRORISTS. Writings like yours succeeded to make me anti-Israel and pro-Palestine. congratulations.. 1 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: I have to wonder tho - how would those demonstrators feel if people were in the streets celebrating the palestinian deaths. Another big lie. They were not and are not on streets celebrating Israeli deaths. They were there only to protest Palestinian civilian deaths. BIG LIAR. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: It is absolutely disgusting that you try to justify the mass murder of Palestinian women and children. Nobody did that. But i can see why you'd be desperate to try to distract from your own support of hamas's mass murders and murders of children, which is what we were actually discussing. What a horrible creature you are Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Another big lie. They were not and are not on streets celebrating Israeli deaths. They were there only to protest Palestinian civilian deaths. BIG LIAR. Sorry that you hate the truth so much - but they were absolutely celebrating isreali civilian deaths. https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-some-in-toronto-celebrating-mass-murder-of-israelis-as-death-toll-mounts Also death to isreal in general, wouldn't want to leave that out https://canadadocs.org/toronto-protesters-death-to-israel/ Hell doug ford even had to speak out about it and tell people to grow up https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/reprehensible-and-disgusting-doug-ford-speaks-out-against-rallies-celebrating-israel-attacks-1.6594073 There's plenty more like that. There weren't even any palestinian dead yet when the celebrations started SO you're a lying sack of terrorist apologist. You should be deeply ashamed. Women and children might be killed by accident in a war but this was the deliberate targeting of women and children and innocent people with the intent to kill as many as they could - celebrated by gaza and it's supporters around the world. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Nobody did that. But i can see why you'd be desperate to try to distract from your own support of hamas's mass murders and murders of children, which is what we were actually discussing. What a horrible creature you are I was talking about demonstration in Paris and Germany which were attacked by police, I am asking you this question. If you are honest you give a direct and clear answer. I AM CONDEMING BOTH HAMAS AND ISRAEL FOR KILLING CIVILIANS. DO YOU CONDEMN BOTH HAMAS AND ISRAEL FOR KILLING CIVILIANS?? YES OR NO? Edited October 16, 2023 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Guest Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: SO YOU CONDEMN BOTH HAMAS AND ISRAEL FOR KILLING CIVILIANS?? YES OR NO? Are both done deliberately? Are both done in accordance with the laws that govern warfare? Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: Are both done deliberately? Are both done in accordance with the laws that govern warfare? A definite Yes to Hamas killings. They purposely targeted Israeli civilians and deliberately kill them. As for Israelis, International laws for engagement says that the waring side must do anything they can to minimize civilian casualties. Israelis are bombing civilian buildings where they suspect Hamas is hiding knowing that they are residentials, schools and even hospitals and knowing full well they will kill hundreds of civilians, Hamas terrorists are hiding behind women and children. And Israel has killed over 2500 of them so far, over 1000 of them children. Did these children voted for Hamas? Can unarmed civilians forced Hamas terrorists out of their buildings? No. So Israeli by all political analysts is not obeying international laws by intentionally targeting civilians. For every Hamas terrorist they kill, they murder 10 innocent civilian. I am asking you this question. If there is one murderer hiding in a shop among the people, will you as law enforcement officer start shooting into the crowd inside killing many bystanders in order to kill the murderer as well as ten bystanders??? Yes or no? Edited October 16, 2023 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Guest Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: I am asking you this question. If there is one murderer hiding in a shop among the people, will you as law enforcement officer start shooting into the crowd inside killing many bystanders in order to kill the murderer as well as ten bystanders??? Yes or no? I wouldn't shoot unless I knew I had a clear shot. But in my best intent, my bullets could exit the suspects body, and hit and kill multiple people. IE going through a wall, or floor. I took utmost care to ensure nobody was around, but some things are out of my control. 24 hour notice to evacuate half a city, is not reasonable. However, 15 minutes to evacuate a building before they bomb it, is. This is war. Not hide and seek. War is carnage and death. It is literally impossible not to have collateral damage, in a densely populated area. The best way to avoid this, is to avoid war. Its inevitable, otherwise. Quote
Guest Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Did these children voted for Hamas? Thats irrelevant. If Russia nukes Washington, and Washington retaliates by removing the country from the map, does it matter who voted for Russia's leadership, or does it matter that they grievously violated the sovereignty of another country? If you run up on me with a mask and fake gun, and I stab and kill you, does it matter that the person was 12? You're a kid, but you tried to jack someone who is from the hood. That's not cruelty to children. Its natural selection. Sadly, for Hamas, others have to be punished on their behalf. Quote
Army Guy Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: A definite Yes to Hamas killings. They purposely targeted Israeli civilians and deliberately kill them. As for Israelis, International laws for engagement says that the waring side must do anything they can to minimize civilian casualties. Israelis are bombing civilian buildings where they suspect Hamas is hiding knowing that they are residentials, schools and even hospitals and knowing full well they will kill hundreds of civilians, Hamas terrorists are hiding behind women and children. And Israel has killed over 2500 of them so far, over 1000 of them children. Did these children voted for Hamas? Can unarmed civilians forced Hamas terrorists out of their buildings? No. So Israeli by all political analysts is not obeying international laws by intentionally targeting civilians. For every Hamas terrorist they kill, they murder 10 innocent civilian. I am asking you this question. If there is one murderer hiding in a shop among the people, will you as law enforcement officer start shooting into the crowd inside killing many bystanders in order to kill the murderer as well as ten bystanders??? Yes or no? Thats not how the convention or inter national laws work...Israel has dropped leaflets warning civilians to leave, they are also using social media, radio, and tv to broadcast the same message, so far 600,000 have left... Geneva convention states that yes all possible measures must be taken to reduce civilian casualties "note key words to reduce civilian casualties" it also states that restricted non military targets like schools or hospitals, mosques, emergency shelters are off limits , BUT there is always a but if the enemy is running operations out of these sites they become legitimated military targets...like using ambulances to haul ammo or enemy combatants, those vehicles can be targeted... Can Palestinians force Hamas terrorist out most likely not, can they leave that building, probably not, then those actions are on Hamas, not the Israelis military...want to point fingers point them to the real killers... And the answer to your question is always, the civilian population is always going to pay the highest price for others military actions... it has been that way since man picked up a club and killed his neighbor. Police officers and soldiers actions are apples and oranges... and in any rescue attempt there is a huge possibility that some of the hostages are going to die in the attempt.. if they took no action then there would not be a need for hostage rescue units ...But sooner or later they are going to try to rescue hostage's you can't keep them for ever... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: I was talking about demonstration in Paris and Germany which were attacked by police, oh in other words you were trying to change the subject i brought up. What a liar you are. Quote I am asking you this question. If you are honest you give a direct and clear answer. You're a dishonest person - so it probably never occurred to you, but i always give honest answers. Even saying that shows that you're not that honest. Quote I AM CONDEMING BOTH HAMAS AND ISRAEL FOR KILLING CIVILIANS. I don't believe that. I believe you are fine with Hamas doing it in retaliation for stealing their land. Quote DO YOU CONDEMN BOTH HAMAS AND ISRAEL FOR KILLING CIVILIANS?? No - as i previously noted civilian casualties are inevitable in war. What i condemn is Hamas deliberately targeting civilians and intentionally hunting down women and children with the intent of shooting them dead. I also condemn them for attacking without a declared war. Isreal declared war before going after them. Isreal said "get out of this area, we'll be conducting offensive operatons there. Israel has taken all reasonable steps to minimize civvie casualties. Hamas intentionally set out to cause civillian casualties. Isreal gives warning. Hamas struck without warning. Ya get it yet? It's the difference between killjng someone in self defense because there's little choice and choosing to murder someone because you don't like them. I dno't condemn isreal for defending itself I would too. I do condemn hamas for a cowardly sneak attack with the intent ofk killing babies. And i don't blame iseral for taking whatever steps it needs to at this point to protect itsefl. And there aren't a lot of 'innocent' gaza residents as far as i'm concerned, they allowed hamas to operate and encouraged this kind of activity Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 Canada is silent while children are being killed, Canadian MP pleads Quote
CdnFox Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Canada is silent while children are being killed, Canadian MP pleads We're not silent - we specifically condemned the hamas attack that killed children. Now there's nothing more to say. Isreal has to do what it has to do in order to secure it's citizen's safety. If hamas's children are getting hurt then their parents are going to have to think about why they chose to create this conflict in the first place. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, CdnFox said: We're not silent - we specifically condemned the hamas attack that killed children. Now there's nothing more to say. Isreal has to do what it has to do in order to secure it's citizen's safety. If hamas's children are getting hurt then their parents are going to have to think about why they chose to create this conflict in the first place. Zionists lies again. Palestinian children are getting hurt!!!!!!!!!!, Yes Israel has spanked them. Over a thousand children have been murdered by Israel blown up into pieces. in one week and this Israeli supporter calls it hurt. SHAME ON YOU. Those of you who are blinded supporting Israeli bombardment of civilians in Gaza are supporting the murder of children. Next time you look into mirror remember this. I strongly condemn the violent murderous acts of Hamas terrorists last week and want those responsible face execution. I have nothing to be ashamed of when I look into mirror. Edited October 16, 2023 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 16, 2023 Report Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, CdnFox said: We're not silent - we specifically condemned the hamas attack that killed children. Do not say we. You do not represent Canada. but Israel. Edited October 16, 2023 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Do not say we. You do not represent Canada. but Israel. Of course i represent Canada. You represent the terrorists apperently - so your opinion isn't relevant and you CERTAINLY can't pretend to know what Canadians think. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Quote We're not silent - we specifically condemned the hamas attack that killed children. Zionists lies again. Every time you say that it turns out YOU are the liar. See here: https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/statements/2023/10/08/statement-prime-minister-trudeau-attacks-against-israel "Canada unequivocally condemns these terrible attacks in the strongest possible terms and reaffirms its support for Israel’s right to defend itself, in accordance with international law." So yeah - i was right and you were lying. Big shock.' Yawn. Quote Palestinian children are getting hurt!!!!!!!!!!, Because their parents insisted on a war. Seems like their parents not only have no problem killing iseali children, they don't even have a problem putting their own at risk. You can tell me they didn't know killing thousands of innocent isrealis wouldn't lead to war. Quote Those of you who are blinded supporting Israeli bombardment of civilians in Gaza are supporting the murder of children. Next time you look into mirror remember this. It's pretty common for leftards such as yourself to accuse others of what they themselves do. The blood of the children on both sides are on hamas and the people who support them. And of course that would include people like you who defend their actions and blame isreal for defending itself. Quote I strongly condemn the violent murderous acts of Hamas terrorists last week and want those responsible face execution. The people of gaza are responsible. Sorry kiddo. And fortunately the isrealis are more merciful than you are and won't kill all of them. Just what's necessary to guarantee their peace moving forward. So what are you complaining about? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
BeaverFever Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 As a democracy, Israel should exercise restraint Michael Byers holds the Canada Research Chair in Global Politics and International Law at the University of British Columbia. There is no equivalency between Hamas and Israel. Hamas is a terrorist organization that deliberately targets civilians. The Oct. 7 attacks were designed to cause horrific suffering. War crimes were committed, and Israel has the right to pursue the perpetrators – to capture them if possible, and kill them if not. Israel, in contrast, is a democratic state with an unwritten constitution, a still mostly independent judiciary, peaceful changes of government, and a tradition of spirited debate. Story continues below advertisement Two decades ago, as a visiting professor at Tel Aviv University, I taught a course on the laws of war. The Israeli Defense Forces sent a dozen of their young lawyers to study with me. We had many spirited debates. It was during the Second Intifada. Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the founder of Hamas, had recently been assassinated in Gaza by an Israeli missile. The strike was an attempt to stop a wave of suicide bombings in buses and cafés in Tel Aviv. Mr. Yassin was partly blind and confined to a wheelchair. Could he be part of the kill chain and therefore a legitimate target? Thanks to my students, I learned that where you stand on this question depends on where you sit – in an office in Vancouver, or on a bus in Tel Aviv. Israelis are feeling even more vulnerable today. They are also burning with rage. The nature of the Oct. 7 atrocities and their dissemination on video have ripped open Holocaust scars that were never fully closed. Story continues below advertisement But while the demand for retribution is understandable, it must be resisted. Israel governs itself under the rule of law. A sovereign state, it has also chosen to ratify numerous international treaties, including the 1949 Geneva Conventions. Unlike the United Nations Charter, which sets out the rules governing the recourse to force, including self-defence, the Geneva Conventions concern international humanitarian law – the rules governing the conduct of armed conflicts. At the moment, it is impossible to say whether Israel’s target selection in Gaza complies with those rules. It is at least conceivable that Israel is only targeting Hamas’s military infrastructure, its leadership and militia members. It is even conceivable that Israeli military lawyers have, in each instance, balanced the military necessity of the strike against the anticipated deaths and injuries to civilians. However, we can say that, when bombs are dropped in densely populated neighbourhoods, the military advantage would have to be enormous to exceed the civilian harm. We can also say that in no circumstance may attacks on civilians or civilian infrastructure be justified by similar violations on the other side. Hamas’s use of civilians as human shields is illegal, but two wrongs do not make a right. Finally, there are two rules which Israel is clearly violating. The first is the prohibition on collective punishment, which extends beyond “collective penalties” to include “all measures of intimidation.” Cutting off water, food, fuel, and electricity to more than two million people is collective punishment. The siege of Gaza cannot be justified because Hamas is holding hostages: again, two wrongs do not make a right. The second clearly violated rule is the prohibition on forcible transfers within or from an occupied territory, for instance, from Gaza City to southern Gaza. An alleged violation of this rule is the basis of the arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court for Russian President Vladimir Putin earlier this year. Israeli lawyers will point out that there is an exception to the rule, namely that transfers may occur “if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.” But even then, the transferring power “shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated.” Clearly, those responsibilities are not being fulfilled in southern Gaza today. Democratic countries adopt laws to control their own futures. Crafted in times of peace that allow for reflection and debate, laws are intended to guide our actions during moments of crisis and raw emotion. The same is true among the community of nations. Hamas seeks to drag Israel into a downward spiral of suffering and retribution, but Israel can prove that it is better than that. As U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said last Thursday: “We democracies distinguish ourselves from terrorists by striving for a different standard – even when it’s difficult – and holding ourselves to account when we fall short.” https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-israel-can-avoid-getting-dragged-into-hamass-spiral-of-suffering-and/#:~:text=Michael Byers holds the Canada,organization that deliberately targets civilians. Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: It is absolutely disgusting that you try to justify the mass murder of Palestinian women and children. This has always been your Zionist way. To justify mass murder and destruction by playing victims. What Israelis have been doing past 10 days is worst much worse than what Hamas did last Saturday. ISRAEL IS PROVEN ONCE MORE IT IS WORSE THAN THE TERRORISTS. Writings like yours succeeded to make me anti-Israel and pro-Palestine. congratulations.. You've lost your marbles, dude. Did you forget that Hamas started this? Did you forget that Israel has been attacked by countries in the ME since the first day they existed? Did you forget that Pakistan was created the exact same way, and that they killed 40x as many people by 1972 as Israel ever has? The whole muslim world accepts Pakistan, but if you judged Israel and Pakistan by the body count, you'd be sending the Israelis roses. You're just a full-on religious bigot dude, you need to chill out. Edited October 17, 2023 by WestCanMan 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You've lost your marbles, dude. Did you forget that Hamas started this? Israel started it. The conflict ot war did not start last week but in 1917. Read the history how the Jews mostly Zionists moved from Europe to Palestine under the protection of the British, mass murdered and terrorized the residents born there so that they leave Palestine and Zionists became a majority by murder and terror. @CndFox - With every post that you make, you show the brutality and bullying power of Zionists and the murderous nature of Zionist regime in Israel. Edited October 17, 2023 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 42 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: As a democracy, Israel should exercise restraint Michael Byers holds the Canada Research Chair in Global Politics and International Law at the University of British Columbia. There is no equivalency between Hamas and Israel. Hamas is a terrorist organization that deliberately targets civilians. The Oct. 7 attacks were designed to cause horrific suffering. War crimes were committed, and Israel has the right to pursue the perpetrators – to capture them if possible, and kill them if not. Israel, in contrast, is a democratic state with an unwritten constitution, a still mostly independent judiciary, peaceful changes of government, and a tradition of spirited debate.... This is all great in theory, but there's more to think about than just this one attack, and this one episode of Israeli action against Hamas. What happens in ten years if Hamas just continues to get stronger? Where will all those tunnels go ten years from now? Will they be able to bomb Israel to smithereens from below? Will Iran have nukes for them to stuff down there? Hamas and their allies surrounding Israel constitute a very real existential threat. In Canada we know nothing about being surrounded by enemies. We have thousands and thousands of land and sea borders and not even 1 mile of it borders with an enemy state. Our only neighbour is our best friend. Israel is only surrounded by 3 countries but they have all started wars against Israel, and there's a large contingent of people in each of those countries who would gladly watch the Israelis die in a massive genocide. Even in Canada and the US people call for it. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 Look at the pictures of the children whose murder you support and then if you dare look yourself into morror. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: As a democracy, Israel should exercise restraint Michael Byers holds the Canada Research Chair in Global Politics and International Law at the University of British Columbia. There is no equivalency between Hamas and Israel. Hamas is a terrorist organization that deliberately targets civilians. The Oct. 7 attacks were designed to cause horrific suffering. War crimes were committed, and Israel has the right to pursue the perpetrators – to capture them if possible, and kill them if not. Israel, in contrast, is a democratic state with an unwritten constitution, a still mostly independent judiciary, peaceful changes of government, and a tradition of spirited debate. Story continues below advertisement Two decades ago, as a visiting professor at Tel Aviv University, I taught a course on the laws of war. The Israeli Defense Forces sent a dozen of their young lawyers to study with me. We had many spirited debates. It was during the Second Intifada. Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the founder of Hamas, had recently been assassinated in Gaza by an Israeli missile. The strike was an attempt to stop a wave of suicide bombings in buses and cafés in Tel Aviv. Mr. Yassin was partly blind and confined to a wheelchair. Could he be part of the kill chain and therefore a legitimate target? Thanks to my students, I learned that where you stand on this question depends on where you sit – in an office in Vancouver, or on a bus in Tel Aviv. Israelis are feeling even more vulnerable today. They are also burning with rage. The nature of the Oct. 7 atrocities and their dissemination on video have ripped open Holocaust scars that were never fully closed. Story continues below advertisement But while the demand for retribution is understandable, it must be resisted. Israel governs itself under the rule of law. A sovereign state, it has also chosen to ratify numerous international treaties, including the 1949 Geneva Conventions. Unlike the United Nations Charter, which sets out the rules governing the recourse to force, including self-defence, the Geneva Conventions concern international humanitarian law – the rules governing the conduct of armed conflicts. At the moment, it is impossible to say whether Israel’s target selection in Gaza complies with those rules. It is at least conceivable that Israel is only targeting Hamas’s military infrastructure, its leadership and militia members. It is even conceivable that Israeli military lawyers have, in each instance, balanced the military necessity of the strike against the anticipated deaths and injuries to civilians. However, we can say that, when bombs are dropped in densely populated neighbourhoods, the military advantage would have to be enormous to exceed the civilian harm. We can also say that in no circumstance may attacks on civilians or civilian infrastructure be justified by similar violations on the other side. Hamas’s use of civilians as human shields is illegal, but two wrongs do not make a right. Finally, there are two rules which Israel is clearly violating. The first is the prohibition on collective punishment, which extends beyond “collective penalties” to include “all measures of intimidation.” Cutting off water, food, fuel, and electricity to more than two million people is collective punishment. The siege of Gaza cannot be justified because Hamas is holding hostages: again, two wrongs do not make a right. The second clearly violated rule is the prohibition on forcible transfers within or from an occupied territory, for instance, from Gaza City to southern Gaza. An alleged violation of this rule is the basis of the arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court for Russian President Vladimir Putin earlier this year. Israeli lawyers will point out that there is an exception to the rule, namely that transfers may occur “if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.” But even then, the transferring power “shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated.” Clearly, those responsibilities are not being fulfilled in southern Gaza today. Democratic countries adopt laws to control their own futures. Crafted in times of peace that allow for reflection and debate, laws are intended to guide our actions during moments of crisis and raw emotion. The same is true among the community of nations. Hamas seeks to drag Israel into a downward spiral of suffering and retribution, but Israel can prove that it is better than that. As U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said last Thursday: “We democracies distinguish ourselves from terrorists by striving for a different standard – even when it’s difficult – and holding ourselves to account when we fall short.” https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-israel-can-avoid-getting-dragged-into-hamass-spiral-of-suffering-and/#:~:text=Michael Byers holds the Canada,organization that deliberately targets civilians. As a totalitarian state, Gaza should be prepared to be wiped out. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 17, 2023 Report Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You're just a full-on religious bigot dude, you need to chill out. This was the funniest part. Thanks for the late evening laugh. Yeah dude now I am a Muslim fanatic!!!!!. The extend to which you go to discredit your opponent is amazing. 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: As a totalitarian state, Gaza should be prepared to be wiped out. Typical Zionist. Wipe out, level off, mass murder, kill children, destroy, destruction. Kill kill kill kill kill..... Shows how the state of Israel created and exist and the principals it stands. Edited October 17, 2023 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 17, 2023 Author Report Posted October 17, 2023 7 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: It is absolutely disgusting that you try to justify the mass murder of Palestinian women and children. This has always been your Zionist way. To justify mass murder and destruction by playing victims. What Israelis have been doing past 10 days is worst much worse than what Hamas did last Saturday. ISRAEL IS PROVEN ONCE MORE IT IS WORSE THAN THE TERRORISTS. Writings like yours succeeded to make me anti-Israel and pro-Palestine. congratulations.. Interesting. So what would you propose? What do you think would happen if the Israelis leave Gaza intact? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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