Canadian_Cavalier Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 As an American nationalist, Donald Trump isn't as liked in Canada as he is in the United States. A recent poll I found (Source) says that only 15% of Canadians see Trump positively. Of these 15%, most of them are (unsurprisingly) CPC or PPC voters. Most of them dislike Trudeau and like Poilievre. However, against Biden, a lot more are willing to hold their noses for him (30%). His most favorable demographics are CPC/PPC voters, Albertans, young people and men. His least favorable are women, Quebecois, the elderly and LPC voters. What's really surprising is how much more pro-Trump younger Canadians are. Maybe even more than America's own youth. The biggest difference is boomers, who likely see Trump as a threat to their view of what being Canadian is. Or maybe the CBC just told them what to believe. Young people don't care, they use alternative media and get different perspectives. Quote
Legato Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 Mostly due to the constant attack's from the Canadian media. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 Yeats speaks of ‘character isolated by a deed’. Here is one such moment among many that shows the utter unfitness of Donald Trump for any position of trust: Quote At his welcome ceremony at Joint Base Myer–Henderson Hall, across the Potomac River from the capital, Milley gained an early, and disturbing, insight into Trump’s attitude toward soldiers. Milley had chosen a severely wounded Army captain, Luis Avila, to sing “God Bless America.” Avila, who had completed five combat tours, had lost a leg in an IED attack in Afghanistan, and had suffered two heart attacks, two strokes, and brain damage as a result of his injuries. To Milley, and to four-star generals across the Army, Avila and his wife, Claudia, represented the heroism, sacrifice, and dignity of wounded soldiers. Quote It had rained that day, and the ground was soft; at one point Avila’s wheelchair threatened to topple over. Milley’s wife, Hollyanne, ran to help Avila, as did Vice President Mike Pence. After Avila’s performance, Trump walked over to congratulate him, but then said to Milley, within earshot of several witnesses, “Why do you bring people like that here? No one wants to see that, the wounded.” Never let Avila appear in public again, Trump told Milley. (Recently, Milley invited Avila to sing at his retirement ceremony.) https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/11/general-mark-milley-trump-coup/675375/ Quote
herbie Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Legato said: Mostly due to the constant attack's from the Canadian media. More like Trump's constant attacks on Canada. P.O.S. was the worst Prez for Canada/US relations ever. Like alost every country citizens regarding him as a bombastic lout and an absolute boor. 1 1 Quote
Legato Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, herbie said: More like Trump's constant attacks on Canada. P.O.S. was the worst Prez for Canada/US relations ever. Like alost every country citizens regarding him as a bombastic lout and an absolute boor. Mostly due to the constant attack's from the Canadian media. Quote
herbie Posted September 21, 2023 Report Posted September 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Legato said: Mostly due to the constant attack's from the Canadian media. Mostly due to his ignorant attacks on Canada. The media here just reported what he did. Their job. He didn't need media help to make himself out as a dufus and enemy of Canada. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted September 25, 2023 Report Posted September 25, 2023 I have 3 kids in their 20s. All 3 think Trump would be better than Biden for the USA. In fact, all 3 think anyone who knows what day it is, would be better for the USA than Biden. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Aristides Posted October 7, 2023 Report Posted October 7, 2023 I have three grand kids in their twenties and they all think Trump is a P o S. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 7, 2023 Report Posted October 7, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 4:21 PM, herbie said: Mostly due to his ignorant attacks on Canada. If that were true Trudeau would be the most hated man in the country Quote
CdnFox Posted October 7, 2023 Report Posted October 7, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 2:35 PM, Canadian_Cavalier said: As an American nationalist, Donald Trump isn't as liked in Canada as he is in the United States. A recent poll I found (Source) says that only 15% of Canadians see Trump positively. Of these 15%, most of them are (unsurprisingly) CPC or PPC voters. Most of them dislike Trudeau and like Poilievre. However, against Biden, a lot more are willing to hold their noses for him (30%). His most favorable demographics are CPC/PPC voters, Albertans, young people and men. His least favorable are women, Quebecois, the elderly and LPC voters. What's really surprising is how much more pro-Trump younger Canadians are. Maybe even more than America's own youth. The biggest difference is boomers, who likely see Trump as a threat to their view of what being Canadian is. Or maybe the CBC just told them what to believe. Young people don't care, they use alternative media and get different perspectives. A lot of kids today see the failure of the so called 'woke' left agenda, the mess the social justice warriors left, the blind and rabid hatred on the left and they worry that they'll get cancelled one day for any views right of castro. A lot of them feel that moving to the right is the only real choice they have, And then there's those who just love the sheer entertainment value. Even before he got elected the left portrayed trump as the ultimate boogyman and canadians really don't pay attention to even our own politics, never mind really understanding the American politics. Not that americans are any better - half of them think the electoral college is where you go learn how to vote. Here's a short youtube that explains the whole situation and how everyone feels these days perfectly: Quote
Guest Posted October 7, 2023 Report Posted October 7, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 7:21 PM, herbie said: Mostly due to his ignorant attacks on Canada. On Canadians, or on poor policies Canada has towards his country? Poor policy makers like Trudeau? Find me one single attack Trump has made on Canada's population. Find me one single attack, he has made on what it is to be a Canadian. He's a business man. Business isn't nice behind closed doors. Its ugly. He can fight it out with the toughest, and come out on top. A lot of his policies were good. People don't hate him due to them. Its simple. He's one of the worst public speakers, and is unfortunately a head of state. His king sized ego, which make him so petty, he can't let go the smallest of slights. But the Canadians who like him, may dislike his personality, but respect the fact that when he was in charge, a lot got done. The US needs someone like that, that just happens to bring a lot less baggage and drama to the table. Canada is no different. It needs someone competent that will steady the ship, and keep the drama to a minimum. Quote
Aristides Posted October 7, 2023 Report Posted October 7, 2023 One thing Trump has never done is "keep drama to a minimum". Quote
Guest Posted October 7, 2023 Report Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Aristides said: One thing Trump has never done is "keep drama to a minimum". Correct, a large reason why people had become fatigued with his leadership. Love him or hate him, he had some great policies, but all of it was paled by his incredibly abrasive personality. Quote
Aristides Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 His policies alienated most of his allies. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 11 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Correct, a large reason why people had become fatigued with his leadership. Love him or hate him, he had some great policies, but all of it was paled by his incredibly abrasive personality. Honestly i think a lot of people actually liked that about him. But he goes too far sometimes and then people get turned off. And - the last election was when covid was starting and during times like that people tend to turn away from anything "unstable". And say what you like he's not exactly stable. Looks like he's going to get a shot at it again, we'll see how he does. To be honest - hes' not a great campaigner during elections. Biden one the last one by locking himself in his basement and letting trump talk, and trump talked himself out of a presidency. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) On 10/7/2023 at 2:53 PM, Perspektiv said: Correct, a large reason why people had become fatigued with his leadership. Love him or hate him, he had some great policies, but all of it was paled by his incredibly abrasive personality. He did not manage Covid well at all and set a terrible example by promoting treatments with no validity. One thing the US certainly doesn’t need is more tax breaks for the very rich. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-middle-class-needs-a-tax-cut-trump-didnt-give-it-to-them/ Edited October 10, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
Guest Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: He did not manage Covid well at all and set a terrible example by promoting treatments with no validity. Voters used their voice to let him know. He was fired as a result. Many of some of his fiercest supporters, were left dissilusioned by that very moment. Back against the wall, is character revealing. Easy to be the man, when all is going perfectly. True leaders shine or are exposed in the dark moments. He threw everyone under the bus, and finger pointed, vs taking ownership and calming things down. He focused more on numbers of where he performed very well, than the bleak reality. Had he listened to his experts vs fight with them, he easily would have beat Biden. Very hard to earn that type of trust back, but Biden is making it easier for him. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 34 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: Voters used their voice to let him know. He was fired as a result. Many of some of his fiercest supporters, were left dissilusioned by that very moment. Back against the wall, is character revealing. Easy to be the man, when all is going perfectly. True leaders shine or are exposed in the dark moments. He threw everyone under the bus, and finger pointed, vs taking ownership and calming things down. He focused more on numbers of where he performed very well, than the bleak reality. Had he listened to his experts vs fight with them, he easily would have beat Biden. Very hard to earn that type of trust back, but Biden is making it easier for him. Most of us aren’t equipped to lead countries but Trump had the opposite qualifications. Like many narcissists he just can’t empathize with other people, a serious shortcoming in a plague. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: He did not manage Covid well at all and set a terrible example by promoting treatments with no validity. One thing the US certainly doesn’t need is more tax breaks for the very rich. He actually handled covid better than most in practical terms. As far as results go he did as well or better than biden, and he did significantly speed up the development of the two vaccines (which some think was a good thing and others would have a different opinion of course). The fed powers are very limited in the states. It's fair to say that he went WAY overboard trying to downplay it to keep people calm. While other gov'ts were saying 'this is serious but we'll beat it' he was like "it's just a cold, don't panic we're fine" etc. But the actions he took demonstrate that he did take it seriously, He just SUCKS at reassuring people of anything 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Most of us aren’t equipped to lead countries but Trump had the opposite qualifications. Like many narcissists he just can’t empathize with other people, a serious shortcoming in a plague. Actually that's precisely what you want in a plague. Think about it. 1 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: He actually handled covid better than most in practical terms. Better than most? Whom are you comparing his record with? 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: Actually that's precisely what you want in a plague. Think about it. If he had cared more, he might have gotten off his butt and saved more lives. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Better than most? Whom are you comparing his record with? Biden. Trudeau. Many of the states. Quote If he had cared more, he might have gotten off his butt and saved more lives. What an amazingly stupid statement. Which other country had 'project lightspeed'? The brits never put that much effort into it and in fact came up with an inferior vaccine So - he does better than any other country in the word but he's killing people with his laziness. Meanwhile trudeau ignores a world famous Canadian mNRA vaccine company (becasue they're in the west) and puts millions into china - who then runs off with the money and their vaccine. Get your head out of your wuhan. Edited October 10, 2023 by CdnFox Quote
herbie Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 Canadians supporting Trump can feel a sense of accomplishment. They're traitors to two countries at the same time. OR They don't just like to rag on Americans for their govt policies, they actually do hate America with a passion. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, herbie said: Canadians supporting Trump can feel a sense of accomplishment. They're traitors to two countries at the same time. How can they be traitors to the us. That joke MIGHT have been funny if you'd said they were screwing up two countries at the same time but yeash dude - put a LITTLE effort in wouldya? Quote OR They don't just like to rag on Americans for their govt policies, they actually do hate America with a passion. We get vengeance and comedy all at the same time!! you can't BUY that. That'll teach them to cancel the avro arrow and mash. Quote
Gaétan Posted November 7, 2023 Report Posted November 7, 2023 Trump can't have committed fraud by overvaluing his properties, his name alone is worth twenty billions, I'm not saying he's a righteous man but he's more human and has more respect for human life, Biden none, nothing has been so bad since he's been here, we're on the brink of a world war, Biden trusts the CIA terrorists,They are dangerous criminals. Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted November 10, 2023 Report Posted November 10, 2023 I read posts that speak of all the great things President Trump accomplished. I can only think of two. He didn't start any new military engagements, and he expedited the Covid vaccines. However, I am not an American so it is not my place to tell Americans whom to vote for. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
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