Those Damned Illegals

[NYLefty]

As some here may know I'm someone who's been involved in the construction industry my whole career. I'm retired now but still travel to job sites of family members and friends and use my experience to give guidance, a consultant of sorts who doesn't get paid.

I've visited close to a dozen job sites in the month of August and every single crew of every single outfit has Illegals doing the work white men could never do.

Latinos laying pavers in the blazing sun not standing erect the entire day. Latinos setting steel handling blazing hot I-Beams at a brand new strip mall. Latinos on their knees laying thousands upon thousands of ceramic tile never getting up to take a break.

Twelve hour days most of them, never complaining showing up every single day. And despite all the Reich Wing hokum, these illegals receive paychecks and pay state and federal TAXES.

Yep these illegals are doing the jobs that you comfy white boys could never do. They keep our economy HUMMING!!!

[Rebound]

It’s true.

The GOP pretends to hate illegal immigrants but they hire millions of them. They just want to hire them and provide them no healthcare or unemployment insurance.  
 

Used to be that if a man lost his arm to unsafe factory machinery, the factory owner would just say, “Sorry, but I can’t pay you to work for me without an arm.  You’re fired.” And that was the end of it.  

[Moonlight Graham]

1.  People with legal status did these jobs before.  It seems quite racist to assume only illegal migrants or Mexicans/latinos can do a certain job while other races can't.

2.  Let's even assume your racist point that only latinos want to do these jobs is true.  Then have latinos with legal status do them, immigrate them into the country for these jobs, put them on the books, protect the workers with labour laws.  Many of these companies do not follow labour laws and the migrants have no legal recourse and companies can use their legal status to threaten and exploit them.

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, NYLefty said:

As some here may know I'm someone who's been involved in the construction industry my whole career.

That's a surprise. You come across so much more like someone who's into destruction, NOT construction. 

Be honest: are you sure you're not intimately connected to Antifa and BLM? 

Edited September 5, 2023 by Deluge

[NYLefty]

I feel this whole thing about comprehensive immigration reform is nothing more than a huge  charade perpetrated by the right and left to pacify racist whites in this country in some feeble attempt at giving them false hope that the country won't become browner and browner. 

Time to come clean America 

[NYLefty]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1.  People with legal status did these jobs before.  It seems quite racist to assume only illegal migrants or Mexicans/latinos can do a certain job while other races can't.

2.  Let's even assume your racist point that only latinos want to do these jobs is true.  Then have latinos with legal status do them, immigrate them into the country for these jobs, put them on the books, protect the workers with labour laws.  Many of these companies do not follow labour laws and the migrants have no legal recourse and companies can use their legal status to threaten and exploit them.

Yea your some right wing idealist who's never run a business or really worked a day in your life. You statements scream that.

[Deluge]

2 minutes ago, NYLefty said:

I feel this whole thing about comprehensive immigration reform is nothing more than a huge  charade perpetrated by the right and left to pacify racist whites in this country in some feeble attempt at giving them false hope that the country won't become browner and browner. 

Time to come clean America 

You race hustlers are a trip. lol

[NYLefty]

6 minutes ago, Deluge said:

That's a surprise. You come across so much more like someone who's into destruction, NOT construction. 

Be honest: are you sure you're not intimately connected to Antifa and BLM? 

No but I am connected to your mother's rear end for the hefty fee of 5 dollars behind the Quicky Mart on many a Friday night 

[NYLefty]

If some how it were possible to completely stop illegal immigration "Which it's Not" this country would collapse. I'm tired of politicians who spend way too much time trying to make racist whites feel warm and fuzzy inside. 

[NYLefty]

Why the hell do you Goobers think there's no federal requirements for employers to check the legal status of the immagrants they hire????

[Deluge]

14 minutes ago, NYLefty said:

No, but I have been connected to mother's rear end since as long as I can remember. Some people call it child abuse. I call it a special privilege.

Well, that certainly explains your psychotic behavior on this forum. 

I'll leave you two to it then.  

Edited September 5, 2023 by Deluge

[Deluge]

6 minutes ago, NYLefty said:

If some how it were possible to completely stop illegal immigration "Which it's Not" this country would collapse. 

Says the labor slaver attached to his mother's ass. 

Nobody cares what you think, Poindexter.

Why don't you go back to fantasizing about the browning of America? It's so - YOU!

5 minutes ago, NYLefty said:

Why the hell do you Goobers think there's no federal requirements for employers to check the legal status of the immagrants they hire????

Why the hell do you fantasize about illegal behavior? What's in it for you, besides alone time in your mother's basement bathroom? 

[Rebound]

3 hours ago, NYLefty said:

I feel this whole thing about comprehensive immigration reform is nothing more than a huge  charade perpetrated by the right and left to pacify racist whites in this country in some feeble attempt at giving them false hope that the country won't become browner and browner. 

Time to come clean America 

No, we have significant problems with US Immigration law.  The problem is that Democrats won’t pass immigration reform which kicks Dreamers out of the country, and Republicans demand it.  

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, NYLefty said:

I feel this whole thing about comprehensive immigration reform is nothing more than a huge  charade perpetrated by the right and left to pacify racist whites in this country in some feeble attempt at giving them false hope that the country won't become browner and browner. 

Time to come clean America 

Every time one of you stupid destructive Libbies gains power, illegal immigration goes insane. Every Gawd Damn Time!

There is going to be a reckoning.

[impartialobserver]

When I helped out family friends in the potato fields of Eastern Idaho (early 90's)... they hired almost exclusively illegal immigrants. One of their reasons is that illegal immigrants do not demand benefits or pay raises. If you hire a legal immigrant.. over time, they want these things. The illegal knows that if they complain, they are out of work ten minutes later. I am going to be interested to see if this is still in place or if they went the route of automation.. going to be in Eastern Idaho in mid-November. 

[Nationalist]

25 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

When I helped out family friends in the potato fields of Eastern Idaho (early 90's)... they hired almost exclusively illegal immigrants. One of their reasons is that illegal immigrants do not demand benefits or pay raises. If you hire a legal immigrant.. over time, they want these things. The illegal knows that if they complain, they are out of work ten minutes later. I am going to be interested to see if this is still in place or if they went the route of automation.. going to be in Eastern Idaho in mid-November. 

"Some" illegals is manageable. But look at the graph I posted above. This is insanity!

[reason10]

8 hours ago, NYLefty said:

As some here may know I'm someone who's been involved in the construction industry my whole career. I'm retired now but still travel to job sites of family members and friends and use my experience to give guidance, a consultant of sorts who doesn't get paid.

I've visited close to a dozen job sites in the month of August and every single crew of every single outfit has Illegals doing the work white men could never do.

Latinos laying pavers in the blazing sun not standing erect the entire day. Latinos setting steel handling blazing hot I-Beams at a brand new strip mall. Latinos on their knees laying thousands upon thousands of ceramic tile never getting up to take a break.

Twelve hour days most of them, never complaining showing up every single day. And despite all the Reich Wing hokum, these illegals receive paychecks and pay state and federal TAXES.

Yep these illegals are doing the jobs that you comfy white boys could never do. They keep our economy HUMMING!!!

Apparently you never took an economics course in the few years you spent in public schools, if you think somehow a bunch of ILLEGAL ALIENS keep a nation economy humming. And you're a RACIST by suggesting white people don't work.

And I guess it never occurred to you that the person who hired those wetbacks is COMMITTING A FUGGING CRIME.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=HIRING+ILLEGAL+IMMIGRANTS%2C+PENALTIES&f=treesort&fq=true&num=2&hl=true&edition=prelim&granuleId=USC-prelim-title8-section1324a

As far as those wonderful animals you idi0ts can't even refer to as illegals....

63 percent of those animals are on WELFARE.

https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs

And those animals are committing crimes, even more these days, since the unelected Pedophile took the oath of office.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/crimes-committed-illegal-immigrants-surged-2021-declining-previous-years

Homicides, assaults, incidents of domestic violence, illegal weapons possession, and sexual offenses committed by illegal aliens all increased dramatically in fiscal year 2021 compared to fiscal year 2020, data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection shows.

Illegal immigrants committed 1,178 assault and domestic violence crimes in 2021, which represents a more than 400% increase from the 208 in 2020.

Sixty homicide or manslaughter convictions were attributed to illegal immigrants in 2021, a 1,900% increase from the previous year.

Gee. We'd be better off with more of THESE kinds of LEGAL immigrants

and fewer of these animals...

 

 

 

[reason10]

5 hours ago, NYLefty said:

Why the hell do you Goobers think there's no federal requirements for employers to check the legal status of the immagrants they hire????

There's no problem with hiring IMMIGRANTS. These animals

are not immigrants. They are ILLEGAL ALIENS. They are CRIMINALS. And they belong on the other side of the border.

2 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

When I helped out family friends in the potato fields of Eastern Idaho (early 90's)... they hired almost exclusively illegal immigrants. One of their reasons is that illegal immigrants do not demand benefits or pay raises. If you hire a legal immigrant.. over time, they want these things. The illegal knows that if they complain, they are out of work ten minutes later. I am going to be interested to see if this is still in place or if they went the route of automation.. going to be in Eastern Idaho in mid-November. 

In some ways, you've just described a form of slavery. Gee! I wonder what your union friends would have to say about that.

Edited September 5, 2023 by reason10

[Moonlight Graham]

5 hours ago, NYLefty said:

Yea your some right wing idealist who's never run a business or really worked a day in your life. You statements scream that.

LOL great argument.  Really using your intellect here to refute my points.  A real "gotcha" moment.

[impartialobserver]

2 minutes ago, reason10 said:

In some ways, you've just described a form of slavery.

believe it or not.. the "slave owners" were 100% white, conservative, and religious. I still find it confounding how they can be so Conservative and then justify this.. Another insight from those days... 4 summers and never once did one of them mention American politics. I did and can speak fluent Spanish. I worked with them not above them... so we talked about all sorts of things.. their homes in Mexico, women, beer, soccer, music, etc. but never American politics. 

[reason10]

5 hours ago, NYLefty said:

If some how it were possible to completely stop illegal immigration "Which it's Not" this country would collapse. I'm tired of politicians who spend way too much time trying to make racist whites feel warm and fuzzy inside. 

Not all whites are racist. Just far left wings, LIKE YOU.

Take ALL illegal aliens OUT of the country and the federal budget PLUMMETS, from less spending on law enforcement, WELFARE OUTPUT, etc. Crime plummets in states close to the border. Schools have an easier time educating the children of LEGAL TAXPAYERS. (Native or LEGAL IMMIGRANT.)

[reason10]

1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

believe it or not.. the "slave owners" were 100% white, conservative, and religious. I still find it confounding how they can be so Conservative and then justify this.. Another insight from those days... 4 summers and never once did one of them mention American politics. I did and can speak fluent Spanish. I worked with them not above them... so we talked about all sorts of things.. their homes in Mexico, women, beer, soccer, music, etc. but never American politics. 

Conservatism spans across races and religions. A CONSERVATIVE believes in law and order. NO Conservative would condone ANY dealings with illegal aliens.

Those slave owners are criminals. Last time I checked, mainstream conservatives in America respect the rule of law.

You seem to have a problem with those of Caucasian heritage. That's kinda racist.

[herbie]

Thay took my God given right to supplement my pesion away by working at McDees! Lied to my face saying it was because that dark skinned guy who spoke broken English could unload 90 lb. boxes of frozen dog meat off the truck all day and I couldn't.....

[impartialobserver]

47 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Conservatism spans across races and religions. A CONSERVATIVE believes in law and order. NO Conservative would condone ANY dealings with illegal aliens.

Those slave owners are criminals. Last time I checked, mainstream conservatives in America respect the rule of law.

You seem to have a problem with those of Caucasian heritage. That's kinda racist.

I have a simple belief... all humans are flawed. No matter the race, religion, geography, time, etc.. all are flawed. A lot of folks (and I get this vibe from you as well) contend that being Conservative and/or white precludes you from being flawed. The flaws in humanity can be traced back to them brown skinned folks. 

[Moonlight Graham]

12 hours ago, NYLefty said:

I feel this whole thing about comprehensive immigration reform is nothing more than a huge  charade perpetrated by the right and left to pacify racist whites in this country in some feeble attempt at giving them false hope that the country won't become browner and browner. 

Time to come clean America 

That's right, ignore millions of people breaking the law, including businesses.  Just let human trafficking happen too, and the drug trafficking.  Stop enforcing the law you meanies!