Guest Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 On 9/8/2023 at 9:56 PM, August1991 said: To me, this is evidence that the current "protect environment" and CO2 taxes are a fraud. Of course its a fraud. Canada has been shipping millions of tons of recyclable plastics to China, then elsewhere in Asia. It's about politics, optics and virtue signaling. Easy to be condescending your constituents about their use of fossil fuels, when your inability to figure out recycling is covered by the many countries we ship millions of tons of it out to in containers. If they actually wanted to fix the issue, heavy money would be invested towards the solutions. Quote
Zeitgeist Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 5 hours ago, ExFlyer said: My excuse?? Dude (or dudette), it is not my anything. You have a problem with it so... check with Putin and seif you can work it out LOL I was making the point that our service is getting lousy like Russia’s. It doesn’t matter. We’re not on the same wavelength. Quote
RedDog Posted October 20, 2023 Report Posted October 20, 2023 How are plastic bags “single use” when we were told they’re recycled? We were told they will be used and used again indefinitely. Is the “recycling” industry a big lie? Quote
August1991 Posted October 21, 2023 Report Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) LCBO? SAQ: https://www.saq.com/fr/contenu/a-propos/responsabilite/seconde-vie-verre ==== At least the Provigo machine gives money to the people who collect my bottles. The SAQ only wants the people begging near their door. Edited October 21, 2023 by August1991 Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 21, 2023 Author Report Posted October 21, 2023 17 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: I was making the point that our service is getting lousy like Russia’s. It doesn’t matter. We’re not on the same wavelength. I cannot get on the same wavelength with people that keep citing Russia for every little complaint they have....considering they have never lived or worked or been there Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Zeitgeist Posted October 21, 2023 Report Posted October 21, 2023 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: I cannot get on the same wavelength with people that keep citing Russia for every little complaint they have....considering they have never lived or worked or been there Wrong. I have lived and worked there. Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 21, 2023 Author Report Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Wrong. I have lived and worked there. AHA....but that does not justify your comparing everything to Russia unless you miss it so much Edited October 21, 2023 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Zeitgeist Posted October 21, 2023 Report Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: AHA....that explains it. A closet Russian LOL I lived and worked there for a spell many years ago. The people were friendly and hospitable. Even then, early post-Soviet Union, the government had issues, but it was more democratic and striving to westernize its economy. You have to study the history to see why Russia is where it is today. It’s complicated. Our standard of living is higher and we’re generally more democratic except on the radical left ideology front, which is significantly damaging. Our governments, institutions, and large businesses have been captured by international metrics on ESG and DEI (look up the acronyms) that want to socially engineer us away from traditional family values and individual rights and economic opportunities. The national religion in Canada is gender ideology and fighting climate change. All other perspectives are cancelled. Edited October 21, 2023 by Zeitgeist 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 21, 2023 Author Report Posted October 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: I lived and worked there for a spell many years ago. The people were friendly and hospitable. Even then, early post-Soviet Union, the government had issues, but it was more democratic and striving to westernize its economy. You have to study the history to see why Russia is where it is today. It’s complicated. Our standard of living is higher and we’re generally more democratic except on the radical left ideology front, which is significantly damaging. Our governments, institutions, and large businesses have been captured by international metrics on ESG and DEI (look up the acronyms) that want to socially engineer us away from traditional family values and individual rights and economic opportunities. The national religion in Canada is gender ideology and fighting climate change. All other perspectives are cancelled. All I am saying is your constant comparison to Russia (clearly not when you lived there ) is old and tired. Don't like what you see and is going on, so be it. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Zeitgeist Posted October 21, 2023 Report Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: All I am saying is your constant comparison to Russia (clearly not when you lived there ) is old and tired. Don't like what you see and is going on, so be it. I’d compare Canada to China but I know less about it. Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 21, 2023 Author Report Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said: I’d compare Canada to China but I know less about it. Meh....same thing...its getting old. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Zeitgeist Posted October 22, 2023 Report Posted October 22, 2023 14 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Meh....same thing...its getting old. No, it’s just that now you have Israel and Hamas to worry about. Having bigger and more fish to fry doesn’t mean you get to stop frying fish. It just means the problems are getting overwhelming. LCBO’s crap service is easily lost in the mix. Quote
ExFlyer Posted October 22, 2023 Author Report Posted October 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: No, it’s just that now you have Israel and Hamas to worry about. Having bigger and more fish to fry doesn’t mean you get to stop frying fish. It just means the problems are getting overwhelming. LCBO’s crap service is easily lost in the mix. The topic is about paper bags Dude (or dudette) for krist sake and you wander off to Russia and now Israel and Hamas !!! Control yourself Dude (or dudette) LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
herbie Posted October 22, 2023 Report Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) Maybe the paper was made from Lebanese cypress and supply chain issues made it too costly? Like I said, there's a cost to paper bags so bring your own like everywhere else. Or charge 50c for one at the store and turn a profit on them. Local grocers charge 35c per paper bag here already. Edited October 22, 2023 by herbie Quote
Army Guy Posted January 17, 2024 Report Posted January 17, 2024 It has never been about paper bags this is a marking plan that turns a negative number at corporate level into a positive one by selling another product...we bought it all hook line and sinker because well Canadians are gullible...what is it climate barbie said yell it loud enough and long enough and Canadians will believe it...that and we really don't give a shit about the environment, or we would be pushing for more programs like this one...We get a few points form eliminating plastic bags and plastic straws...but everything else in our world is made from plastic...and paper bags are better for the environment, and it creates good paying jobs...back in the day pulp and paper, and fishing were the largest employers around...now most mills have shut down and fishing is not that great as it once was.... Personally the alternatives are slim, like cardboard plates, paper food containers, etc wooden forks and spoons, but what about packaging plastics are everywhere in everything... Nothing wrong giving our pulp and paper industries new business with something that can be returned to nature... and if there is something we have lots of is trees... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
GroundskeeperWillie Posted January 31, 2024 Report Posted January 31, 2024 On 8/11/2023 at 10:55 AM, ExFlyer said: l but, if eliminating paper bags is so environmentally conscious, how come they still publish that 100 page glossy Food and Drink magazine...in French and English. I wonder how many trees it would save if they stopped that magazine?? Which is less useful than the paper bags. Agreed. Paper bags have actual use (people need these brown bags to carry the liquor they just bought); whereas they could simply put their magazines online, thus saving trees. Personally I don't have a problem with organizations wanting to go green, but I feel that they should set an example themselves. P.s. Why is the word "organisation" underlined as incorrect spelling? This is a Canadian website, isn't it? Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 31, 2024 Author Report Posted January 31, 2024 41 minutes ago, GroundskeeperWillie said: Agreed. Paper bags have actual use (people need these brown bags to carry the liquor they just bought); whereas they could simply put their magazines online, thus saving trees. Personally I don't have a problem with organizations wanting to go green, but I feel that they should set an example themselves. P.s. Why is the word "organisation" underlined as incorrect spelling? This is a Canadian website, isn't it? It is your spell checker, nothing to do with the website. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Forum Admin Greg Posted January 31, 2024 Forum Admin Report Posted January 31, 2024 39 minutes ago, GroundskeeperWillie said: P.s. Why is the word "organisation" underlined as incorrect spelling? This is a Canadian website, isn't it? Not any more. It's a long story, but recently myself, and the operations have moved to the United States. The forum software is also American... so you're going to get a few Americanized things around here. However, the forum still skews Canada in membership and engagement, but that is decreasing with time. Users by county, over the past 28 days: You can ignore the Singapore metric, as that was mostly bot traffic, that I've had to filter out (to minimize server stress). Quote Have any issues, problems using the forum? Post a message in the Support and Questions section of the forums.
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