ExFlyer Posted August 12, 2023 Report Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/11/2023 at 8:34 AM, PIK said: Could hurt him in Quebec. His Wife was a very popular TV personality in Quebec. They really like here there. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell others what theirs should be.
ExFlyer Posted August 12, 2023 Report Posted August 12, 2023 20 hours ago, CdnFox said: This is the THIRD major poll from the same week with nearly the exact same result - leger, nanos and now abacus. Ten point spread for the tories - tories at 37 percent, right on the edge of a majority. I don't remember the last time three were so close like that. Anyway - here's the graphic provincial breakdown according to Abacus I don't put much faith in polls so far away from elections. Daily news cycles can affect polls dramatically. Look at the last 3 polls just before elections, they all showed cons in the lead. I must admit, Trudeau is not popular and may very well have led his last government but polls now only are the flavour of the day and tomorrow may be a different flavour. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell others what theirs should be.
ExFlyer Posted August 12, 2023 Report Posted August 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Freeland? I don't have a sense that she is popular at all. Voters tend to go with HOW the candidate looks and sounds versus what they are saying, so I'm going to say she's not going to get them excited. Freeland has no chance to win Canada. Maybe the iberal party but the rest of Canada sees her as Justins hand puppet. Now, Melanie Joly, a good looking , soft talking, eyelash fluttering, blonde would just be the one liberals would and maybe Canada takes on.... Oh and she is from Quebec because we like Quebecers for PM's LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell others what theirs should be.
PIK Posted August 12, 2023 Report Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Freeland has no chance to win Canada. Maybe the iberal party but the rest of Canada sees her as Justins hand puppet. Now, Melanie Joly, a good looking , soft talking, eyelash fluttering, blonde would just be the one liberals would and maybe Canada takes on.... Oh and she is from Quebec because we like Quebecers for PM's LOL Not if she is the issue in the breakup.lol 3 Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
eyeball Posted August 12, 2023 Report Posted August 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Freeland? I don't have a sense that she is popular at all. Voters tend to go with HOW the candidate looks and sounds versus what they are saying, so I'm going to say she's not going to get them excited. I never suggested who but if looks are all that matters Melanie Joly is pretty hot. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted August 12, 2023 Author Report Posted August 12, 2023 7 hours ago, ExFlyer said: I don't put much faith in polls so far away from elections. Daily news cycles can affect polls dramatically. Look at the last 3 polls just before elections, they all showed cons in the lead. I must admit, Trudeau is not popular and may very well have led his last government but polls now only are the flavour of the day and tomorrow may be a different flavour. Polls in isolation in between elections are useless, but taken together over time they tend to be accurate at showing trend lines and there's definitely some tea leaves there for those who can read them. It's not just that Justin is going down. PP has been going up, both in his personal popularity and people's perception of him. Now - in fairness it started at 'dismal' and has climbed all the way to "might tolerate being the same room with him if he were on the ohter side of the room", but the point is it's consistently increasing month after month, little by little. And likewise the CPC has grown little by little, and if the trend continues will be polling comfortably into majority territory. 5 hours ago, PIK said: Not if she is the issue in the breakup.lol My God - i HAVE to believe he could do better than that Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Goddess Posted August 13, 2023 Report Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, CdnFox said: Those will get him more than his covid response. His corruption over covid was glossed over at the time. He gave $237 million (that's almost a quarter of a BILLION) to a former Liberal MP, Frank Baylis, of Baylis Medical Company, for ventilators. He over paid for them to the tune of $100 million. And he did it when they were already figuring out in the US that it was the vents that were killing people. If that doesn't pi$$ you off, then imagine how many hospital wings could be built or emergency rooms re-opened (lookin' at you, Manitoba) or how many solar panels $100 million could buy. Edited August 13, 2023 by Goddess Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CdnFox Posted August 13, 2023 Author Report Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Goddess said: His corruption over covid was glossed over at the time. He gave $237 million (that's almost a quarter of a BILLION) to a former Liberal MP, Frank Baylis, of Baylis Medical Company, for ventilators. He over paid for them to the tune of $100 million. And he did it when they were already figuring out in the US that it was the vents that were killing people. If that doesn't pi$$ you off, then imagine how many hospital wings could be built or emergency rooms re-opened (lookin' at you, Manitoba) or how many solar panels $100 million could buy. Hardly his only fault there - he have many millions to a montreal owned chinese pharma company for a vaccine we never got a single dose of. His covid relief mistakes ran into the billions. But at the end of the day, the media largely covered or downplayed that, and people just want to forget that covid ever happened or even think about it ever again. It won't be a big factor next election, even tho it arguably should be, Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted August 13, 2023 Author Report Posted August 13, 2023 https://www.orilliamatters.com/local-news/poll-70-say-federal-liberals-would-be-better-off-with-a-new-leader-7394475 Poll: 70% say federal Liberals would be better off with a new leader In an online poll this week, Village Media readers overwhelmingly thought that the Liberals would be better off if they went into the next election with a new leader Now that isn't a terribly scientific poll but its' not nuthin either. But honestly the only person who'd really stand a chance is mark carney. And he'd have to be very cautious - if he loses that's it. No forgiveness in the liberal party for anyone who loses an election. There's no second chances. And the liberal brand name is pretty beaten up right now, and even someone like Carney could easily find himself with a loss. While he's got a decent reputation and the credentials to be taken seriously he's never run a political campaign or ever been a politician, and so he gets a bunch of 'advisers' and hopes for the best or he tries to do it himeslf and gets clobbered. And don't forget - whomever wins would have to actually be prime minister and deliver good budgets and policy in the meantime. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Moonlight Graham Posted August 13, 2023 Report Posted August 13, 2023 On 8/11/2023 at 8:29 AM, Nationalist said: If it ever happens. Liberals waiting for their polling numbers to rebound.... if it ever happens Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Nationalist Posted August 13, 2023 Report Posted August 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: Liberals waiting for their polling numbers to rebound.... if it ever happens That's doubtful now. But... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted August 13, 2023 Author Report Posted August 13, 2023 Just now, Nationalist said: That's doubtful now. But... not true at all, they'll almost certainly rebound at some point. But not till after they lose the next election. Or two. And no guarantee how much they'll rebound But for sure - 2035 or so they're back in the fight! 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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