Joe Biden = Spiro Agnew

[August1991]

Both were crooks. Everyone in the world now knows this.

The difference maybe is that Republicans had the decency to install Gerald Ford.

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As a foreigner, this started with the impeachment of Clinton. It was stupid and wrong. (If you don't like a political leader, argue.)

These two impeachments of Trump were even worse. Like Clinton, he was elected.

You Americans are worthy of far more. Surely your Republic will not become another failed state.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

Both were crooks. Everyone in the world now knows this.

The difference maybe is that Republicans had the decency to install Gerald Ford.

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As a foreigner, this started with the impeachment of Clinton. It was stupid and wrong. (If you don't like a political leader, argue.)

These two impeachments of Trump were even worse. Like Clinton, he was elected.

You Americans are worthy of far more. Surely your Republic will not become another failed state.

Agnew was the crook. Joe is NOT. Are you thinking of Trump or Nixon? Nixon was pardoned before he could be charged.

[August1991]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Agnew was the crook. Joe is NOT. Are you thinking of Trump or Nixon? Nixon was pardoned before he could be charged.

Everyone around the world can see it.

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I know your country. You deserve better.

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Everyone around the world can see it.

What have you SEEN? Newspaper? Broadcast NEWS from Murdoch or Carlson?

Strange that I consume ALL KINDS of news and never "seen it."

Edited August 6, 2023 by robosmith

[August1991]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

What have you SEEN? Newspaper? Broadcast NEWS from Murdoch or Carlson?

Strange that I consume ALL KINDS of news and never "seen it."

This is the Internet.

[robosmith]

47 minutes ago, August1991 said:

This is the Internet.

There's a lot of crap on the Internet. Anyone can make a web page.

What have you seen that has CREDIBILITY?

[West]

Joe is likely the most corrupt president in us history... so corrupt he likely rigged an election then indicted the man who ran against him. Makes Hugo Chavez look like an amateur

[August1991]

47 minutes ago, robosmith said:

There's a lot of crap on the Internet. Anyone can make a web page.

What have you seen that has CREDIBILITY?

Your country has survived worse.

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I am Canadian. Abroad, every so often, foreigners ask me about America.

Here's my answer: "In Canada, we think someone has our back. In America, they know that they are alone."

[Rebound]

4 hours ago, August1991 said:

Both were crooks. Everyone in the world now knows this.

The difference maybe is that Republicans had the decency to install Gerald Ford.

====

As a foreigner, this started with the impeachment of Clinton. It was stupid and wrong. (If you don't like a political leader, argue.)

These two impeachments of Trump were even worse. Like Clinton, he was elected.

You Americans are worthy of far more. Surely your Republic will not become another failed state.

Agnew was convicted of a crime. We haven’t even seen any evidence that Biden committed a crime. 

[August1991]

39 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Agnew was convicted of a crime. We haven’t even seen any evidence that Biden committed a crime. 

Agnew was nolo-contondere - no-contest.

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Biden and Agnew, they were crooks. They both took money.

Yet Obama and Nixon did not.

Call me naive but I think that Obama and Nixon were honest.

Edited August 6, 2023 by August1991

[August1991]

I fear that this thread may become, uh, read. So, let me make a point.

America? I could not wish for better neighbors.

And you Americans? You  could not wish for better neighbours.

[August1991]

There was a very good BBC documentary about Watergate. I think Eliot Richardson remarked - recalling Nixon - about Agnew: "Those Maryland politicians are all the same." 

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Agnew took money. Biden similarly took money.

 

[August1991]

In Montreal,

I recall the phrase of Gerald Tremblay, "Its all that." 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, August1991 said:

Your country has survived worse.

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I am Canadian. Abroad, every so often, foreigners ask me about America.

Here's my answer: "In Canada, we think someone has our back. In America, they know that they are alone."

^This is not evidence that Joe Biden is a crook. You got ANY?

[robosmith]

39 minutes ago, August1991 said:

There was a very good BBC documentary about Watergate. I think Eliot Richardson remarked - recalling Nixon - about Agnew: "Those Maryland politicians are all the same." 

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Agnew took money. Biden similarly took money.

 

You've STILL not cited CREDIBLE evidence that Joe Biden "took money." You're just blowing smoke.

[August1991]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

You've STILL not cited CREDIBLE evidence that Joe Biden "took money." You're just blowing smoke.

For several years, I worked in a position of authority.

The appearance of receiving a benefit is wrong.

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I am appalled that you Democrats excuse this behaviour. I suspect your hatred of Trump explains your willingness to accept Biden.

2024: The Buffoon vs the Crook.

You Americans deserve better

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, August1991 said:

There was a very good BBC documentary about Watergate. I think Eliot Richardson remarked - recalling Nixon - about Agnew: "Those Maryland politicians are all the same." 

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Agnew took money. Biden similarly took money.

 

Don't you think that with unlimited and extraordinary levels of scrutiny, and after decades of public service, if Joe Biden were actually corrupt there would be some evidence?

How, after decades, is wild speculation, innuendo and creative storytelling the most his rabid opponents can dig up?

Sure, he's a regular, flawed human being, but seems like you should have higher standards to label someone a criminal.

 

[Rebound]

8 hours ago, August1991 said:

Agnew was nolo-contondere - no-contest.

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Biden and Agnew, they were crooks. They both took money.

Yet Obama and Nixon did not.

Call me naive but I think that Obama and Nixon were honest.

Repeat: There is ZERO evidence that Joe Biden received any money.  
Biden submits financial disclosures and he’s released his tax returns going back over fifteen years.  No evidence of a crime or, for that matter, no evidence that he conducted himself in an unethical fashion.  

[myata]

13 hours ago, August1991 said:

Both were crooks. Everyone in the world now knows this.

I stopped reading after this line, coming from an confirmed, patented liar. It's not supported by any facts, not qualified by anything like "in my personal opinion, not based on any objective reality" yet broadcast as common knowledge. A typical liar's trick. Pathetic and miserable, way below the level of an intelligent discussion.

[robosmith]

9 hours ago, August1991 said:

For several years, I worked in a position of authority.

The appearance of receiving a benefit is wrong.

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I am appalled that you Democrats excuse this behaviour. I suspect your hatred of Trump explains your willingness to accept Biden.

2024: The Buffoon vs the Crook.

You Americans deserve better

"Appearances" that are manufactured by Republicans and amplified by a compliant (and proven LIAR) like FOS LIES carry NO WEIGHT.

They certainly DO NOT PROVE "crook." Duh 

[myata]

And by the way, Putin = Hitler. No conditions, assumptions and qualifications: factual.

Edited August 6, 2023 by myata

[myata]

12 hours ago, robosmith said:

You got ANY?

He's full of sh*t. That suffices for evidence, with that kind of folks. Couldn't stand up for his dirty words, throwing verbal shit around covering it with more pompous bullshit. Just common i-liar, a commodity these days. Surprise me.

Edited August 6, 2023 by myata

[Rebound]

11 hours ago, August1991 said:

For several years, I worked in a position of authority.

The appearance of receiving a benefit is wrong.

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I am appalled that you Democrats excuse this behaviour. I suspect your hatred of Trump explains your willingness to accept Biden.

2024: The Buffoon vs the Crook.

You Americans deserve better

The APPEARANCE was CREATED by Republicans to distract from actual crimes committed by Donald Trump.  
 

The Republican Party is the Criminal Party of the United States.  They ignore 78 ACTUAL felonies committed by Donald Trump.  They ignore the ACTUAL fraud perpetrated by criminal George Santos. They ignore FACTUAL, documented, ACTUAL payments and gifts and “loans” exceeding $100,000 to Republican Supreme Court Justices, they ignore the ACTUAL TWO BILLION DOLLARS given by the Government of Saudi Arabia to former paid government official Jared Kushner…. BUT the actions of the son of the President, who is not a government employee, draw all of their attention.  If they had evidence that Biden committed a crime, he would be prosecuted.  But there is NO EVIDENCE. 

Edited August 6, 2023 by Rebound

[myata]

Sh*t blowers: we have no evidence but everybody knows wink. They have no principles, no honesty anything they say should be considered a lie unless proven otherwise. There's no excuses for pushing the button for whatever they represent. You know from the outset it's wrong and will be all wrong.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, myata said:

Sh*t blowers: we have no evidence but everybody knows wink. They have no principles, no honesty anything they say should be considered a lie unless proven otherwise. There's no excuses for pushing the button for whatever they represent. You know from the outset it's wrong and will be all wrong.

^This is PROVEN by contrasting what McCarthy and McConnell said about Jan 6th in February and what they SAY NOW.

When they thought the political winds were shifting against Trump right after the event, they told the truth. But when they decided that the MAGA CULT would not blame Trump, they flipped 180 degrees. ?