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[I am Groot]

On 4/8/2026 at 10:49 PM, BeaverFever said:

In other news Department of National Defence finally gets is its first Medium Altitude Long Endurance (MALE) drone, 2 years before the RCAF gets its MQ-9 SkyGuardian 

 

Cute. Meanwhile, guerrillas are now fighting the government with drones in the Congo. Countries like Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Iran are building hundreds of armed drones. The Russians and Ukrainians throw thousands back and forth. The Chinese are building tens of thousands. I don't even want to think about what the North Koreans are doing.

Right now, Canada has no ability to survive against a modern opponent, or even a well-armed 3rd world opponent.  Imagine even sending them in as peacekeepers somewhere, and being slaughtered by drones thrown at them by 3rd world guerrillas who can't even read or write.

But hey, the coast guard now has a couple of drones for fishing surveillance.

Edited May 23 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

On 5/18/2026 at 10:32 PM, herbie said:

The largest military investment aince WW2 isn't good enough for Donnie Diapersnipoer.

Well wah wah take your ball and go home.

And to date, that 'largest military investment since WW2 hasn't produced anything to speak of. 

We going to sign a contract to buy/build something someday?

[I am Groot]

On 5/19/2026 at 10:51 PM, Zeitgeist said:

The only conclusion I draw from this is that US defence leadership made the foolish decision to go it alone and now they can’t put the genie back in the bottle.

Realistically, other NATO allies weren't going to join them because they're all, including Canada, captive to their new Muslim voting base. Virtually all other NATO allies are run by leftists, and they are reliant on Muslim votes for a significant portion of their power. The US is the only one that has more Jews than Muslims right now, though its Muslim population is growing fast. It also has a conservative (sort of) government not beholden to Muslim votes.

[I am Groot]

11 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

It’s not 5 years but we’re ramping up activity and at the same time placing large orders.

Like for what?

11 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

On March 18, 2025, Canada awarded a contract with an initial value of $19.7 million(excluding taxes) to Logistik Unicorp to supply the Canadian Army’s (CA) light forces with 3,000 units of advanced protective and load carriage equipment. This contract includes the provision of ballistic armour layers, tactical vests, pack systems and associated pouches, as well as options for additional systems and services.

That's nice. Three thousand, huh? That's about enough to equip two regiments with none left over. So what do the rest wear? Aren't we supposed to be expanding the size of the military? Clearly, the people ordering supplies don't think we will.

[Legato]

15 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Barrels of gasoline is equally ridiculous as cans of gasoline, is it not?

Because you can’t. 
 

Your last comment on that thread is pure nonsense and an example of how you butted in to defend his ridiculous claims.   You attempted to justify his “barrels of gasoline” by saying that gas power plants have “underground caverns” where they store gas for peak demand for some ridiculous reason. You tried to ridicule the fact that grid gas plants are fed by pipeline not by stores gas regardless of whether they are generating during peak demand or low demand  The gas flows the plant like the water that flows to your faucet.  It’s controlled by a valve   There’s aren’t extra power turbines connected to gas in mysterious “underground caverns”  

Therefore fox’s fictional “barrels of gasoline” and your fictional “underground caverns” don’t exist and don’t provide a substitute for grid scale batteries which actually DO exist and are in use all over the world  

 

“Underground caverns”

Natural gas is stored underground to balance the steady supply from pipelines with the rapid, volatile demands of power stations. When electricity needs peak, plants quickly draw gas from these massive geological reserves. The three main storage types are depleted gas reservoirs, salt caverns, and aquifers. 

Underground storage facilities act as giant, pressurized "warehouses" for the energy grid. Their role in supplying natural gas to power stations includes.

[Legato]

3 minutes ago, Legato said:

Natural gas is stored underground to balance the steady supply from pipelines with the rapid, volatile demands of power stations. When electricity needs peak, plants quickly draw gas from these massive geological reserves. The three main storage types are depleted gas reservoirs, salt caverns, and aquifers. 

Underground storage facilities act as giant, pressurized "warehouses" for the energy grid. Their role in supplying natural gas to power stations includes.

Edit to User, I see you already corrected the Beave's feverish nonsense.

[CdnFox]

Bottom line for @BeaverFever is what everyone is CORRECTLY saying is you can point to all the announcements you like but nothing substantial is actually happening. 

Our guys don't even have enough clothes and gear.  We have none of what it takes for a modern army to fight effectively. And despite a year of promising to move faster than ever before and CLAIMING to have spent 2 percent of gdp on "Military" improvements, nothing is better. 

And we still won't be properly equipped next year. Or the next year. And i'm not talkig abou the big ticket stuff like subs. The spending so far is largely for show. And we're paying millions to carneys buddies because they're supposed to make procurement faster than ever before in history 🙄🙄

[User]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Bottom line for @BeaverFever is what everyone is CORRECTLY saying is you can point to all the announcements you like but nothing substantial is actually happening. 

Our guys don't even have enough clothes and gear.  We have none of what it takes for a modern army to fight effectively. And despite a year of promising to move faster than ever before and CLAIMING to have spent 2 percent of gdp on "Military" improvements, nothing is better. 

And we still won't be properly equipped next year. Or the next year. And i'm not talkig abou the big ticket stuff like subs. The spending so far is largely for show. And we're paying millions to carneys buddies because they're supposed to make procurement faster than ever before in history 🙄🙄

He has run away again. 

He is posting in other threads, but won't come back to own up to his ignorance here. 

 

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Edit to User, I see you already corrected the Beave's feverish nonsense.

Yep. He ran away from this discussion months ago, then dragged it up here just to run away again.

 

 

[Legato]

3 minutes ago, User said:

He has run away again. 

He is posting in other threads, but won't come back to own up to his ignorance here. 

 

Yep. He ran away from this discussion months ago, then dragged it up here just to run away again.

 

 

The underground gas storage to act as capacitors has been common knowledge for years.

[BeaverFever]

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And the Americans aren't stupid and they look at the situation and they realize carney is playing games. We're not actually spending any more than we usually do on military stuff we're just adding a bunch of stuff that you didn't used to be military into the equation and pretending that our spending went up

It's all fake dude. It's like when they gave a raise to the military and then cut back on the deployment benefits so that it wasn't really much of a raise at all and for many actually a pay cut

Ourselves with announcements we'd be the toughest country in the world right now but as it is we haven't actually improved our military preparedness at all

16 hours ago, User said:

Context. What exactly was said and where?

In this case, your absurdly bringing back up a discussion you cowardly ran away from and then literally saying it was cans of gasoline was ridiculous. 

You want to play this dumb game, go back in time and play it. 

Can't what? This is your stupid argument. 

What was pure nonsense? Lets see you respond to what was said and articulate an actual argument. 

Gas power plants do in fact store gas in underground caverns... holy shit man, this is exactly why I called you out for being the ignorant person you are. Here you go:

Securing energy supply

Underground storage ensures both security of supply and flexibility in gas flows. Thanks to adapted geological structures, gas can be stored in sufficient volumes to cover winter heating demand or to withstand major supply disruptions.

Particularly well-endowed in suitable natural reservoirs, France benefits from a storage network capable of covering two-thirds of the country’s annual gas consumption. Storengy, an ENGIE subsidiary, is one of the world’s leading underground gas storage operators, with assets in France, Germany and the United Kingdom.

https://www.engie.com/en/our-activities/infrastructures/gas-storage/

 

Depleted Oil and/or Gas Fields: These reservoirs are naturally occurring, and their potential as secure containers has been proven over the millions of years that the reservoirs held its original deposits of oil and gas. They consist of porous and permeable underground formations (average of 1,000 to 5,000 feet deep) which are confined by impermeable rock or water barriers and identified by a single natural pressure. The working gas requirement is generally about 50% of the total reservoir capacity. Gas is withdrawn in winter season and injected in summer. This type of storage facility can be used for long system supply or peak day.

Aquifer Storage Fields: This type reservoir is bounded partly or completely by water bearing rocks called "Aquifers." The nature of the water in the aquifer may vary from fresh water to nearly saturated brines. They have a high cushion gas requirement, between 50 to 80% generally. They also have high deliverability rates and gas is withdrawn in winter season and injected in summer season.

Salt Cavern Storage: This type of facility uses caverns solution mined in underground salt deposits (Salt domes or Salt formations). Salt caverns usually operate with about 20 to 30 % cushion gas and the remaining capacity as working gas. Working gas can be recycled more than once per year. Salt cavern storage has high deliverability and injection capabilities and is used for short peak day deliverability purpose.

https://www.ferc.gov/industries-data/natural-gas/overview/natural-gas-storage/natural-gas-storage-storage-fields

I await your response. Lets see if maybe for once, you can admit you were ignorant and wrong. 

How is that?

You went to a website about a specific project using “UNIQUE GEOLOGICAL FEATURES” in FRANCE to back up tour gibberish statement about all natural gas plants?  Are you suggesting every gas plant in North America is sited on top of unique geological caverns?  That is gibberish. We have natural gas plants all over Ontario and indeed North America they are not built on top of “unique geological features” . You desperation is ridiculous. 
 

Your buzzword of the day seems to be “context” and then you spout this nonsense that has ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON THE CONTEXT of the discussion which was about battery grid storage in Ontario. What a joke you are. 
 

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Don't know this guy from a hole in the wall. 

Of course you don’t. Why would YOU of all people?  You don’t know shit from a hole in the wall. Especially on this topic. Your ignorance isn’t a license to ignore inconvenient truths.“Harvard?  Yale?  Never heard of them therefore they’re not credible!” . Sorry punk, that doesn’t fly. 
 

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Not like us, we were far worse 

Mostly like us. Some worse Spain just reached 2% and is the only NATO country to declare it has no intention of ever going further, unlike everyone else  

 

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Announcing is not buying.  What do we actually have. Nothing?   

See this is the game you play that I described where nothing counts as “buying”  The announcement doesn’t count . Signing the contract doesn’t count  And then when money changes hand and product is delivered it doesn’t count because “it was previously announced and therefore not new”  You take advantage of the reality that going from selection to delivery with incremental payments along the way takes months and years so that you can say nothing counts.  You also don’t understand that fast procurement means a 10-year project gets shortened to 2-3 years, not 48 hours. 
 

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That was over a year ago and we still don't have any. They are now requiring soldiers who aren't currently deployed to return their gear because there's a shortage. So maybe we didn't actually wind up buying it in the end? We sure don't have them now even though it was supposedly a year ago

Again you don’t understand how the world works. Large orders take time for companies to fulfill and deliver   Producers have other customers and backlogs and wait lists. 
 

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No it isn't and you've already seen that you're political knowledge is far below average. The bridge is absolutely an issue with a competing bridge in the area having paid trump tons of money to sour the deal for example and that's been widely reported.

You simply don't know what you're talking about

I know EXACTLY what I am talking about. You are the one with the non-existent political knowledge, falsely claiming George W bush balanced budgets when he famously ran record deficits and doubled debt, falsely claiming that “the left” supported Hitler when in fact it was the American RIGHT and you admitted you never even heard of the Spanish Civil War, let alone that “the left” had mobilized by the thousands to fight fascism there while republicans lauded Hitler’s reforms.  

The bridge is both things, a troll of Canada and MAGA bribery  These are not mutually exclusive things  

 

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You mean they'll say they'll take our money if we offer it. That's nice but we haven't actually paid anybody anything or signed any deals of any substance. Or have we ordered submarines and aircraft that I don't know about?

Let’s recall that your first point was that they don’t believe we will actively any money which is false

Now let’s debunk your false claim that they’ve simply said they’ll take our money if we offer it  The Koreans and Germans are FIERCELY COMPETING for that sub contract making MAJOR offers to invest in Canada across the entire economy in space, energy, manufacturing and so on.  
 

Yes I have mentioned many times the 7 new aircraft Carney ordered which you continue to ignore Every time The sub contract will be awarded this year probably before the summer is out which is LIGHTNING SPEED. It is already many years ahead of schedule.  
 

Seriously this has all been widely reported in the media and mentioned on this thread numerous times. As with all you right wing internet hacks and MAGAs in general I can’t tell where your ignorance ends and where your dishonesty begins.

 

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I understand just fine. And I understand carney hired a whole bunch of people to make sure it happened faster than ever in our history and yet it isn't.

No you don’t understand. That’s clear. You don’t start information and then work your way to a conclusion.  You start with you preferred conclusion and then cherry pick only the selective facts that confirm your bias while remaining generally uninformed about the topic. That’s what internet rage-baiters do which is pretty much all of the right wingers who spend their lives on this forum. 
 

The DIA only takes on certain projects and DICE wasn’t one of them  Subs are moving a record pace.  New assault rifle acquisition was expedited by 2 years  and contract was awarded  

This is a non-exhaustive list of the DIA projects where contacts have now been awarded, with others moving along at pace. You will completely ignore this part of my post and not respond it won’t you?

 

• Airlift Capability Project – Multi-role Flight Service
  Canada will replace its aging CC-144 Challenger fleet with modern, long-range aircraft to ensure safe, reliable transport for government and military personnel while improving efficiency
• Arctic Over-the-Horizon Radar
  This radar system will provide long-range detection of airborne threats in the Arctic, significantly improving early warning capabilities
• CC-130J Hercules upgrades
  In-service support for and upgrades to the Royal Canadian Air Force’s CC-130J fleet will ensure continued support for tactical airlift operations
• Defence Enhanced Surveillance from Space
  This North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) modernization project is aimed at improving Canada’s ability to detect and track threats using advanced space-based surveillance technologies 
• Enhanced Satellite Communications Project – Polar
  This project will improve and modernize NORAD radar capabilities while also enhancing satellite communications
• Canadian Modular Assault Rifle Phase 1 includes procuring 30,000 General Service (GS) rifles Phase 2 will include procuring the remaining 19,207 GS rifles, 16,195 Full Spectrum (FS) rifles, as well as associated ancillaries.

 

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And the Americans aren't stupid and they look at the situation and they realize carney is playing games. We're not actually spending any more than we usually do on military stuff we're just adding a bunch of stuff that you didn't used to be military into the equation and pretending that our spending went up

It's all fake dude. It's like when they gave a raise to the military and then cut back on the deployment benefits so that it wasn't really much of a raise at all and for many actually a pay cut

Ourselves with announcements we'd be the toughest country in the world right now but as it is we haven't actually improved our military preparedness at all

Yes the Americans are stupid, no their trolling is not due to some genuine principled and honest concern.

Yes we are spending more, no the SMALL cutbacks to SUPPLEMENTS for DEPLOYED members don’t even REMOTELY come close to the MASSIVE increases to BASE PAY for ALL members, 

 

No the announcements would not “make us the toughest country in the world” and of course our preparedness shouldn’t have improved YET because even fast moving projects take years to order and deliver. A fact you don’t seem to understand. 

[BeaverFever]

18 minutes ago, User said:

He has run away again. 

He is posting in other threads, but won't come back to own up to his ignorance here. 

 

No I answer your ridiculous comments on my own time at my own convenience, as it pleases me. . You scramble to respond to me at all hours of the day or night  You follow me from thread to thread and rush to answer me, I don’t follow you or rush to answer you. Because you are MY b1tch.   Got it?

 

 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Bottom line for @BeaverFever is what everyone is CORRECTLY saying is you can point to all the announcements you like but nothing substantial is actually happening. 

Our guys don't even have enough clothes and gear.  We have none of what it takes for a modern army to fight effectively. And despite a year of promising to move faster than ever before and CLAIMING to have spent 2 percent of gdp on "Military" improvements, nothing is better. 

And we still won't be properly equipped next year. Or the next year. And i'm not talkig abou the big ticket stuff like subs. The spending so far is largely for show. And we're paying millions to carneys buddies because they're supposed to make procurement faster than ever before in history 🙄🙄

All explained in my previous posts. Not a single one of younis actually knowledgeable about the subject you just have liberal derangement syndrome.
 

Investments are happening at record pace, it will still be years before new capabilities are delivered that’s just reality.  You think you subs and tanks and aircraft same day like you buy groceries  like they’re just fully built and configured and sitting in a shelf ready to use, you just can’t understand how it works even when it’s been significantly expedited it is still a multi-year process. Success is turning a 10year project to a 5 year project not buying stuff overnight if you actually had a CLUE about the subject you would know that 

[User]

5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

You went to a website about a specific project using “UNIQUE GEOLOGICAL FEATURES” in FRANCE to back up tour gibberish statement about all natural gas plants?  Are you suggesting every gas plant in North America is sited on top of unique geological caverns?  That is gibberish. We have natural gas plants all over Ontario and indeed North America they are not built on top of “unique geological features” . You desperation is ridiculous. 
 

Your buzzword of the day seems to be “context” and then you spout this nonsense that has ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON THE CONTEXT of the discussion which was about battery grid storage in Ontario. What a joke you are. 

Typical dishonest response. I figured you would play your usual cowardly game. 

I give you examples and sources to prove you are ignorant, and you ignore that and criticize the source because it was in France? Then pretend the discussion was not about you ignorantly criticizing my "underground storage" point? 

Which, by the way, I gave TWO sources. I can give you more... 

The argument was never an absolute one about ALL natural gas plants. 

I never said they had to be built literally on top of them either... but we do have these things called pipes, you ignorant clown. Guess what, not just in France does this occur either, since you are such an ignorant person:

Underground natural gas storage facilities in Canada are located in five provinces^Footnote 1: Alberta, British Columbia (B.C.), Ontario, Quebec, and Saskatchewan. The combined capacity of all underground storage facilities in Canada is 949 Bcf. The majority of this capacity (548 Bcf) is located in Alberta, followed by Ontario with 248 Bcf. While Alberta’s storage facilities are spread out across the province, Ontario’s storage capacity is located near Dawn, Ontario. B.C. has the largest facility, the FortisBC Aitken Creek facility in Fort St. John, with 95 Bcf. A natural gas storage facility is currently in the early phase of construction near Alton, Nova Scotia.

https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/market-snapshots/2018/market-snapshot-where-does-canada-store-natural-gas.html

17 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

No I answer your ridiculous comments on my own time at my own convenience, as it pleases me. . You scramble to respond to me at all hours of the day or night  You follow me from thread to thread and rush to answer me, I don’t follow you or rush to answer you. Because you are MY b1tch.   Got it?

 

 

LOL, no, you are just a cowardly, pathetic liar. 

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, Legato said:

Natural gas is stored underground to balance the steady supply from pipelines with the rapid, volatile demands of power stations. When electricity needs peak, plants quickly draw gas from these massive geological reserves. The three main storage types are depleted gas reservoirs, salt caverns, and aquifers. 

Underground storage facilities act as giant, pressurized "warehouses" for the energy grid. Their role in supplying natural gas to power stations includes.

You guys don’t know what you’re talking about. Are you trying to suggest that EVERY gas plant is located above a cavern?  It has NOTHING TO DO with the tpoic you guys are just down a rabbit hole trying to defend whatever you said last while having completely lost the point of the discussion   Do you even remember the context of the original argument?

To  recap:  I posted an article about a new battery storage site in Ontario that will massively increase the amount of electricity available to the community during peak demand.  Energy will be generated when it is in low demand and cheap to produce, and then supplies peak power to the grid when electricity is in high demand and expensive to produce. This MASSIVELY increases the amount of electricity available at peak times without increasing the number of generators required, as supply is coming from you EXISTING generators. 
 

Then fox went off on his irrelevant nonsense just to troll me and troll renewables energy, about we should instead be storing “barrels of gasoline” which in no way has anything to do with the purpose of battery storage.

And now you’re trying to defend his dumbness by claiming that “geological formations” and “underground caverns” are the same as his “barrels of gasoline” while attacking me for saying he said “cans of gasoline” instead of “barrels”

So according to the MAGA troll logic:

”barrels of gasoline” = “natural gas stored in depleted underground aquifers and “salt caverns “ but not “cans of gasoline”. 
 

The low-IQ  MAGA trolling is ridiculous. 
 

I believe on that thread you were the one who said batteries can’t be trusted over fossil fuel because batteries are “combustible” somehow oblivious to the fact that fossil fuels entire reason for existing is to be combustible. 

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

This is not about numbers. Numbers are supposed to be just an indication of effort made. Canada hasn't made an effort in generations. Spending a billion dollars each for what is basically an unarmed coastal fishing patrol boat (which the Norwegians or Koreans could build for a tenth that) does not impress anyone. We still have a military with antiquated planes, no armed helicopters, no drones, no modern warships, no tanks to speak of, a deep shortage of armored vehicles, artillery from WW2 era with no ammunition, not enough trucks, not enough radios, no ability to deter or even spot drones, no antiaircraft missiles, no antiarmor missiles (except that group in Latvia, if the systems are finally arrived and working) and vastly more fat assed bureacrats than trigger pullers. The Toronto Police Service has more people with weapons than the military. 

And just last week they put out an urgent call for bureaucrats to hand in their rucksacks and flak vests because there aren't enough for the few actual soldiers we have.

Guys like you are popping your buttons with pride that we spent 2% on defense but most people can see it's all for show.

"Hey, let's spend a billion dollars paving a road to nowhere and call it 'defense'. We can overcharge by 70% and split the profits with our friends!"

See my responses to other posts 

 

the TL;DR is that it will take years to dig ourselves out of the hole we’re in but the the right action is being taken now and things are progressing well. It will take time for capabilities to he delivered, your expectations are unrealistic and your criticisms are politically motivated. 

[Legato]

1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

You guys don’t know what you’re talking about. Are you trying to suggest that EVERY gas plant is located above a cavern?  It has NOTHING TO DO with the tpoic you guys are just down a rabbit hole trying to defend whatever you said last while having completely lost the point of the discussion   Do you even remember the context of the original argument?

To  recap:  I posted an article about a new battery storage site in Ontario that will massively increase the amount of electricity available to the community during peak demand.  Energy will be generated when it is in low demand and cheap to produce, and then supplies peak power to the grid when electricity is in high demand and expensive to produce. This MASSIVELY increases the amount of electricity available at peak times without increasing the number of generators required, as supply is coming from you EXISTING generators. 
 

Then fox went off on his irrelevant nonsense just to troll me and troll renewables energy, about we should instead be storing “barrels of gasoline” which in no way has anything to do with the purpose of battery storage.

And now you’re trying to defend his dumbness by claiming that “geological formations” and “underground caverns” are the same as his “barrels of gasoline” while attacking me for saying he said “cans of gasoline” instead of “barrels”

So according to the MAGA troll logic:

”barrels of gasoline” = “natural gas stored in depleted underground aquifers and “salt caverns “ but not “cans of gasoline”. 
 

The low-IQ  MAGA trolling is ridiculous. 
 

I believe on that thread you were the one who said batteries can’t be trusted over fossil fuel because batteries are “combustible” somehow oblivious to the fact that fossil fuels entire reason for existing is to be combustible. 

 

Natural gas is stored underground in Canada inside depleted natural gas/oil reservoirs and solution-mined salt caverns. These large underground storage facilities are typically connected to major pipeline networks that directly supply natural gas to power stations, helping to meet peak electricity demands during cold winters. 

The majority of Canada’s underground gas storage is concentrated in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin and major regional hubs:

Alberta holds the largest portion of Canada’s storage capacity, housing over half of the national total. Storage reservoirs and salt caverns are largely tied to power generation and natural gas exports. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Key Facilities: The TC Energy Edson Gas Storage facility and the Crossfield facility act as critical storage hubs for the Alberta power grid.

Types: These are generally massive depleted fields managed by major midstream companies and local utilities. [1, 2]

2. Ontario (Eastern Canada)

Ontario has the second-largest capacity, concentrated heavily in the southwestern part of the province. [1]

The Dawn Hub: Located near Sarnia, the Enbridge Dawn Hub is one of the largest integrated underground storage facilities in North America. It supplies multiple natural gas-powered stations in the province (such as the Greenfield, Halton Hills, and Goreway generating stations). [1, 2, 3, 4]

3. Other Regions

While Alberta and Ontario hold the bulk of the capacity, natural gas storage is also maintained in depleted fields in British Columbia (e.g., the FortisBC Aitken Creek facility near Fort St. John) and Quebec, as well as in salt caverns in Saskatchewan. [1, 2]

Because underground storage allows companies to inject gas during the lower-demand summer months, power plants are reliably supplied with affordable, consistent fuel year-round. You can review Canada's entire energy infrastructure via the Natural Resources Canada portal. [1, 2]

10 sites

You really do double down on the nonsense.

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Like for what?

That's nice. Three thousand, huh? That's about enough to equip two regiments with none left over. So what do the rest wear? Aren't we supposed to be expanding the size of the military? Clearly, the people ordering supplies don't think we will.

It more than enough to equip the number of troops we are able to out in the field right now. When the size of the military expands so will the equipment ordered.  Obviously , they wouldn’t order more gear than their current force size calls for on a wild guess and hope that someday there will be more troops that’s not realistic 

[BeaverFever]

4 minutes ago, Legato said:

 

Natural gas is stored underground in Canada inside depleted natural gas/oil reservoirs and solution-mined salt caverns. These large underground storage facilities are typically connected to major pipeline networks that directly supply natural gas to power stations, helping to meet peak electricity demands during cold winters. 

The majority of Canada’s underground gas storage is concentrated in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin and major regional hubs:

Alberta holds the largest portion of Canada’s storage capacity, housing over half of the national total. Storage reservoirs and salt caverns are largely tied to power generation and natural gas exports. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Key Facilities: The TC Energy Edson Gas Storage facility and the Crossfield facility act as critical storage hubs for the Alberta power grid.

Types: These are generally massive depleted fields managed by major midstream companies and local utilities. [1, 2]

 

 

2. Ontario (Eastern Canada)

Ontario has the second-largest capacity, concentrated heavily in the southwestern part of the province. [1]

The Dawn Hub: Located near Sarnia, the Enbridge Dawn Hub is one of the largest integrated underground storage facilities in North America. It supplies multiple natural gas-powered stations in the province (such as the Greenfield, Halton Hills, and Goreway generating stations). [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

 

3. Other Regions

While Alberta and Ontario hold the bulk of the capacity, natural gas storage is also maintained in depleted fields in British Columbia (e.g., the FortisBC Aitken Creek facility near Fort St. John) and Quebec, as well as in salt caverns in Saskatchewan. [1, 2]

Because underground storage allows companies to inject gas during the lower-demand summer months, power plants are reliably supplied with affordable, consistent fuel year-round. You can review Canada's entire energy infrastructure via the Natural Resources Canada portal. [1, 2]

 

 

 

 

 

 

10 sites

 

 

 

You really do double down on the nonsense.

 

 

 

Re read my last post to you. Stop regurgitating irrelevant claims. That has nothing to do with an alternative to grid battery storage   The gas still goes from the reservoir to the plant via pipe and doesn’t help supply the grid with extra electricity during peak demand it’s still the same gas plant supplying the same amount of electricity. 

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Like for what?

I have posted many times now all the contracts that have been awarded. Please read the thread and do not delete the inconvenient facts from your brain. Satellites. Aircraft. Space launch. Assault Rifles. The willful ignorance of the internet conservative is astounding 

[Legato]

1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

Re read my last post to you. Stop regurgitating irrelevant claims. That has nothing to do with an alternative to grid battery storage   The gas still goes from the reservoir to the plant via pipe and doesn’t help supply the grid with extra electricity during peak demand it’s still the same gas plant supplying the same amount of electricity. 

Oh my, do sign up for an elementary physics course.

• Managing Peak Demand: Power plants experience sudden surges in electricity demand (e.g., during summer heatwaves or winter freezes). Stored gas provides an immediate "peaking" supply when pipeline capacity alone cannot meet these sudden spikes.
• Handling Pipeline Bottlenecks: Pipelines deliver gas at a relatively constant rate. Storage facilities are strategically placed downstream near generating stations to ensure a steady fuel supply even when transmission lines are constrained or undergoing maintenance.
• Firming Renewable Energy: As power grids rely more on intermittent renewables (wind and solar), natural gas plants are rapidly turned on and off to balance the grid. Readily available underground gas allows plants to fire up instantly when wind or solar output drops.
• Cost Efficiency: Power stations can purchase and inject gas into storage when prices and demand are low (historically during the spring/fall) and withdraw it during the winter when prices and energy needs skyrocket. 

Underground storage is utilized over massive, costly above-ground tanks because geological formations—such as depleted oil and gas fields, aquifers, and salt caverns—can safely hold enormous volumes of gas under high pressure. The gas is withdrawn as needed, processed, and piped directly into the power station's combustion turbines.

For more details on geological storage methods and locations, visit the EIA Underground Gas Storage Basics guide. [1]

 

 

 

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Reminder of what a cowardly pathetic lying POS @BeaverFever is. 

He said, among other things, mocking me:

and your fictional “underground caverns” don’t exist 

" mysterious “underground caverns” "

 

[herbie]

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

And to date, that 'largest military investment since WW2 hasn't produced anything to speak of. 

Yea cuz Amazon has warehouses full of submarines and fighter planes sitting on the shelf waiting for next day delivery. For a $10 a month Prime membership they could get an Abrahms tanlk delivered free to Inuvik.

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3 minutes ago, herbie said:

Yea cuz Amazon has warehouses full of submarines and fighter planes sitting on the shelf waiting for next day delivery. For a $10 a month Prime membership they could get an Abrahms tanlk delivered free to Inuvik.

What calibre is a weaponised MOA, is it similar to the MOU, or does it come in a seed packet.

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Yea cuz Amazon has warehouses full of submarines and fighter planes sitting on the shelf waiting for next day delivery. For a $10 a month Prime membership they could get an Abrahms tanlk delivered free to Inuvik.

We haven't ordered anything of substance yet.

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

I have posted many times now all the contracts that have been awarded. Please read the thread and do not delete the inconvenient facts from your brain. Satellites. Aircraft. Space launch. Assault Rifles. The willful ignorance of the internet conservative is astounding 

Satellites? Not military. Aircraft? Not military. Space launch? Not military. Assault rifles? (twirling finger in air)

[I am Groot]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

It more than enough to equip the number of troops we are able to out in the field right now. When the size of the military expands so will the equipment ordered.  Obviously , they wouldn’t order more gear than their current force size calls for on a wild guess and hope that someday there will be more troops that’s not realistic 

Given they had to recall stuff from people working in Ottawa suggests this eq is not assigned ONLY to existing infantry, I have my doubts. There also needs to be some for if reservists are called up. It seems to me that if they recruit another thousand people, it's bad form to tell them "Okay soldiers, we'll be putting in an order for equipment for you which should arrive early next year. Until then, here are some nice golf shirts to wear."