Witch hunt on President Trump not the slam dunk case the Nazis think

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Every Dem President is already investigated up the Wazoo.  Ever heard of Whitewater? That was very Wazoolical. 

Not even close. No president i'm aware of with the possible exception of nixion has had anywhere remotely close to the level of investigation that trump did.  And they not only investigated his presidential works but is personal life and every other thing they could possibly find grounds to prosecute on.

And they CAUGHT hillary - everyone including comey admitted what she did was a crime. But they let her off with the lame excuse that they couldn't PROVE she intended to commit a crime.  Except that crime didn't require mens rea and many many legal experts have noted that, not to mention how does someone in her position not know it's a crime.   AND she didn't turn the docs over when told to.

So nope - moving forward you'll see REAL investigation and charges.

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

With Obama they went after his birth certificate

That's not an investigation. That's trump being an 1diot.

You wait. Trump was told to back off from hillary because you don't go after high ranking politicians like that - but those days are now officially done. And what we'll see is every time the office changes hands to a new party the former pres will be investigated to hell and charged whenever possible.

If he winds up having these charges thrown (and he might, there's a path for that) and he 'survives' this 'witch hunt'  he will be insanely popular and will likely be the next pres. Hell if he's convicted he's still got an excellent chance of it. And then you can bet he'll be fully invested in appointing people to the doj and other positions to go after biden and hunter and that whole family and we'll hear screaming like you've never heard before.

[reason10]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Sure. Cause you know the law better than the DoJ prosecutors AND ex-Trump AG Bill Barr. You truly are an lDIOT. LMAO

I just have a better education than Hitler Youth like you, son. The law is the law. The ONLY reason for this attack on LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP is because you NAZIS know he will whip Unelected Joe's ass in the next election and you CREEPS can't print out enough illegal votes to stop him this time.

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

You can fix that by MOVING OUT ANYTIME YOU WANT. Please say BYE BYE and get out. 

People like me leave and you retards actually have to get jobs to survive.

You wouldn't want that. The real job market doesn't allow workers to show up high on crack or meth every day. You'd starved.

[West]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Very false. ANYONE who PURPOSELY REFUSES TO RETURN documents THEY STOLE are jeopardizing NATIONAL SECURITY; about which you don't care, cause you are just a PARTISAN HACK. 

STOP LYING. Giving documents back after discovery IS NOT "the same thing" that Trump did, you lDIOT.

Joe Biden stored a bunch of CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS in an area with known CHINESE SPIES. Yet you say NOTHING because you are a NAZI

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

Every Dem President is already investigated up the Wazoo.  Ever heard of Whitewater? That was very Wazoolical.  
 

With Obama they went after his birth certificate, of all stupid things. Because unemployed, pregnant 19 year-olds usually fly from Hawaii to Kenya, give birth, then jet back to Hawaii and somehow fool the media and state officials that the unemployed 19 year-old stayed in Hawaii and gave birth there, as part of a plot to ensure their son could be President. Yup. 

It was his BROTHER who claimed he's Kenyan, son

[Deluge]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

It's NEVER "cool," but it happens. The clearly ILLEGAL thing is keeping them after discovering their inadvertent retention,

Trump crossed the line when HE REFUSED. Duh

How many times do you have to be told before YOU STOP TROLLING THIS?

It's ALWAYS cool, as long as Trump isn't doing it, right hypocrites? 

Trump pushed back against pecker heads, nothing more. It's not like he was a traitor or involved in some kind of espionage; this whole thing is a complete nothing burger. He'll come out on top of this witch hunt and take his rightful place as President of the United States.

 

Edited June 16, 2023 by Deluge

[Rebound]

32 minutes ago, West said:

Joe Biden stored a bunch of CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS in an area with known CHINESE SPIES. Yet you say NOTHING because you are a NAZI

It was his BROTHER who claimed he's Kenyan, son

You are lying on both counts. 
Trump made the birther claim in 2008; Obama’s brother brought it up in 2020, twelve years late to the party. 

[West]

9 minutes ago, Rebound said:

You are lying on both counts. 
Trump made the birther claim in 2008; Obama’s brother brought it up in 2020, twelve years late to the party. 

The original birthers were from Hillary's campaign. 

And you're lying about Joe not being a nazi

Edited June 16, 2023 by West

[Rebound]

16 minutes ago, West said:

The original birthers were from Hillary's campaign. 

And you're lying about Joe not being a nazi

Donald Trump is going to prison. 

[West]

20 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Donald Trump is going to prison. 

Yes because nazi Joe does it the nazi style and goes after political opponents

[CdnFox]

36 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Donald Trump is going to prison. 

It's possible but he does have a number of legal paths out so i wouldn't make any firm affirmations just yet You'll look a little silly if he gets off.

Unlike the previous garbage and which -hunt crap the charges here are substantial and serious.  So he may be in trouble. But 'may be' isn't 'is'. That's why we have trials.

But one thing is for sure - he's likely to win in the court of public opinion. Fair or not people are seeing this as a double standard and a witch hunt. It will probably only increase his popularity.

THe Dems may have made a mistake here. If they aren't able to ACTUALLY lock him up over this they may have handed him the next election.

 

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, West said:

Yes because nazi Joe does it the nazi style and goes after political opponents

No, because the United States has laws, and if facts presented to a jury convince them that the defendant broke the law, he is convicted.  
 

You know that Nazi-style Trump repeatedly lead crowds to chant “lock her up.”  Biden never made a promise to lock Trump up, did he?  
 

If Trump did not break these laws, he has nothing to worry about, right? 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Rebound said:

 

You know that Nazi-style Trump repeatedly lead crowds to chant “lock her up.”  Biden never made a promise to lock Trump up, did he?  
 

But she did break the law.  And trump accepted that for political reasons it wasn't appropriate to proceed with charges.

Biden did NOT announce his intent to violate that long standing principle, and yet that's what he did. Which would make him the worst of the two not the better.

Now i think they BOTH should be charged but its pretty scummy for one side to say the law applies to the other but not to them.

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, reason10 said:

Why did HItlary hold on to her files? Why did KKKlinton? Are you Nazis so STUPID as to think LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP  was the only one with files?

She only kinda held onto them - she deleted them after they were required by a subpoena.

[robosmith]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You have NO proof and NO KnOwLeDgE.  Pretty much exactly the same thing.  And you know it.

I have plenty of proof. You're just not worth me trotting it out cause you're nothing but an ignoramus who constantly PRETENDS to know things YOU DON'T.

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And you know that hillary  is basically identical to trump, except she illegally had the documents in the first place - not supposed to use a private email server for classified use.

She didn't. And you've just PROVEN you're IGNORANT of what happened. You don't even know what NIPRNet and SIPRNet are, let alone how they work. LMAO

 

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Why do you have to LIE about what the dems did? 

Why do you accuse others of lying when you don't even know what happened?

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

She only kinda held onto them - she deleted them after they were required by a subpoena.

Hillary had NO CONTROL over that server when the files were deleted. Nor did she know how to use BleachBit nor what it even was. Duh.

Edited June 17, 2023 by robosmith

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

I have plenty of proof.

You have plenty of LIES!   Your LIES are USELESS without PROOF !

Sorry little robo-dolt, nobody believes your lies.

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

She didn't.

Of course she did. And you've just proven you're a liar. 

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

Why do you accuse others of lying

Because you lie.

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

Hillary had NO CONTROL over that server

Of course she did and ordered them deleted when she was told to produce them by subpoena.

She was a criminal.  But - the US has a tradition that you do not prosecute your political opponents, because that can lead to the perception (or the reality) that you're trying to illegally hold power by suppressing your opposition.   I disagree with that but it's always been the way - only dictators throw their opponents in jail is the feeling.

Biden just threw that out the window.

[Rebound]

23 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You have plenty of LIES!   Your LIES are USELESS without PROOF !

Sorry little robo-dolt, nobody believes your lies.

Of course she did. And you've just proven you're a liar. 

Because you lie.

Of course she did and ordered them deleted when she was told to produce them by subpoena.

She was a criminal.  But - the US has a tradition that you do not prosecute your political opponents, because that can lead to the perception (or the reality) that you're trying to illegally hold power by suppressing your opposition.   I disagree with that but it's always been the way - only dictators throw their opponents in jail is the feeling.

Biden just threw that out the window.

If your claim of obstruction of Justice is true, why was she not prosecuted for it?  Trump was President. He’d promised to prosecute her. Why didn’t he? 

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, Rebound said:

If your claim of obstruction of Justice is true, why was she not prosecuted for it?  Trump was President. He’d promised to prosecute her. Why didn’t he? 

In the us there is a very long standing tradition that you don't prosecute your political rivals. Because the president has so much control and power over the legal process by being able to make selections it could easily be abused to repress your opponents - and even if it's legit it could be seen that way and erode public confidence.

I mean think about it - is nixon in jail?

So unless the crime is REALLY REALLY bad they simply don't prosecute. That's why when trump got elected having campaigned on jailing hillary 2 days later (after he spoke to his justice) he dropped it and said she'd "been through enough".  Trump has NEVER walked away from an enemy but he dropped this like a hot rock because all of this was explained to him.

Biden is the first to break that rule, and i think now we're going to see every president who gets in will look to investigate and prosecute their predecessor from the other party.

[Nationalist]

On 6/15/2023 at 8:00 PM, CdnFox said:

It's true but in those cases it was argued that they had them legitimately and just forgot they had them. (in biden's case that's extremely believable )

The challenge for trump is they have him on tape discussing them and how to avoid returning them, and that runs him afoul of a few laws.

Having said that - there are paths to a not guilty verdict for him. There's reason to believe the tape may be inadmissiable,  there's a decent chance the warrant was not correctly done. There are other technical issues the case may fall apart on as well.

In the court of  the public, without a doubt there is the appearance of a double standard which he will argue means he's done nothing that everyone else hasn't especially hillary. And that will sell fairly well i think. Bet he regrets not going after her now.

This is true. Trump appears to have gotten...belligerent. go figure...

I do not expect this will go anywhere and here's why.

If convicted, the Republicans will gain power and turn this warped table on the Democrats. Wanna see Biden die in a cell next to Donny?

[Rebound]

24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

In the us there is a very long standing tradition that you don't prosecute your political rivals. Because the president has so much control and power over the legal process by being able to make selections it could easily be abused to repress your opponents - and even if it's legit it could be seen that way and erode public confidence.

I mean think about it - is nixon in jail?

So unless the crime is REALLY REALLY bad they simply don't prosecute. That's why when trump got elected having campaigned on jailing hillary 2 days later (after he spoke to his justice) he dropped it and said she'd "been through enough".  Trump has NEVER walked away from an enemy but he dropped this like a hot rock because all of this was explained to him.

Biden is the first to break that rule, and i think now we're going to see every president who gets in will look to investigate and prosecute their predecessor from the other party.

They prosecuted Bill Clinton. They assigned a prosecutor to investigate Whitewater and he pivoted and investigated the man’s sex life. 
 

There have been Congressmen who have been prosecuted.  Governors have been prosecuted; the governor of Illinois was jailed for years. 
 

And, let’s not forget, Trump promised over and over that he would put Hillary Clinton in jail over classified documents.  The reason she wasn’t prosecuted is that the facts in her case were very different than Trump’s. 

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

This is true. Trump appears to have gotten...belligerent. go figure...

I do not expect this will go anywhere and here's why.

If convicted, the Republicans will gain power and turn this warped table on the Democrats. Wanna see Biden die in a cell next to Donny?

If Biden committed crimes he should be prosecuted.  

[Nationalist]

10 minutes ago, Rebound said:

They prosecuted Bill Clinton. They assigned a prosecutor to investigate Whitewater and he pivoted and investigated the man’s sex life. 
 

There have been Congressmen who have been prosecuted.  Governors have been prosecuted; the governor of Illinois was jailed for years. 
 

And, let’s not forget, Trump promised over and over that he would put Hillary Clinton in jail over classified documents.  The reason she wasn’t prosecuted is that the facts in her case were very different than Trump’s. 

If Biden committed crimes he should be prosecuted.  

I'll remember you said that.

[Rebound]

20 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I'll remember you said that.

I have no problem stating that people who break the law should be prosecuted.  Neither does Donald Trump, except when he’s the lawbreaker.  

[CdnFox]

57 minutes ago, Rebound said:

They prosecuted Bill Clinton.

 

They did not. They impeached him. That's entirely different.

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They assigned a prosecutor to investigate Whitewater and he pivoted and investigated the man’s sex life. 

But never prosecuted.  See how that works?

 

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There have been Congressmen who have been prosecuted.  Governors have been prosecuted; the governor of Illinois was jailed for years. 

congressmen and governers are not the president's political rivals.
 

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And, let’s not forget, Trump promised over and over that he would put Hillary Clinton in jail over classified documents.  The reason she wasn’t prosecuted is that the facts in her case were very different than Trump’s. 

 

Nope - that is entirely untrue.  The reason she wasn't prosecuted DESPITE THE FACT ALL THE FBI INVOLVED WERE SURE SHE SHOULD BE was that comey got a call from the justice department shortly after clinton ran across the tarmac to have a chat with their boss.

Prior to that comey and the rest of the fbi wanted charges. Then magically they were dropped. The official excuse was that sure she broke the law but they couldnt' PROVE she meant to.  THe thing is - those charges don't require mens rea.

It was obvious to all that it was a sham.

And trump didn't pursue it because the day after he got in his justice explained why this is tradition and why it's seen as important and the next day he said he was dropping it and never speaking of it again.  A lack of evidence has NEVER held him back from going after someone.

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If Biden committed crimes he should be prosecuted.  

By tradition unless they were pretty horrible he would not be  - but you can bet that if trump gets in this is precisely what will happen. 

Here's the problem with that. Biden and hillary should be charged by a democratic president, or they should be demanding they be charged. But they are not. they only want charges against their opponents.

The republicans will respond in kind.

Now this wll become a political tool used to repress the other guy.

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, Rebound said:

I have no problem stating that people who break the law should be prosecuted.  Neither does Donald Trump, except when he’s the lawbreaker.  

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[West]

On 6/16/2023 at 11:02 AM, Rebound said:

No, because the United States has laws, and if facts presented to a jury convince them that the defendant broke the law, he is convicted.  
 

You know that Nazi-style Trump repeatedly lead crowds to chant “lock her up.”  Biden never made a promise to lock Trump up, did he?  
 

If Trump did not break these laws, he has nothing to worry about, right? 

Lol.. Hillary should be in jail so you know the "laws" are applied selectively. Like the NAZIs did

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, West said:

Lol.. Hillary should be in jail so you know the "laws" are applied selectively. Like the NAZIs did

There has never been anything hidden about the policy of not charging a political opponent or occasionally a potential one.  And of course the dirty littel secret to that is they take the attitude of 'well if we're not charging THEM then we shouldn't have to charge our own    When of course both parties should always charge their own if crimes are found but neither do.
 

But only the dems are sanctimonious cretins about it

[Rebound]

5 hours ago, West said:

Lol.. Hillary should be in jail so you know the "laws" are applied selectively. Like the NAZIs did

LOL, Trump broke all his other campaign promises so how did you expect him to keep his promise and prosecute her? Unless… her case wasn’t prosecutable?