US Gun Deaths Hit Record High of Nearly 49,000 in 2021

[BeaverFever]

Gun Deaths Hit Record High of Nearly 49,000 in 2021

Firearms were the leading cause of death for children in 2021, surpassing COVID deaths. 

 

New research based on the latest publicly available data from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) and Prevention finds that 2021 was a record year for gun deaths in the U.S., with deaths hitting a record high for the second year in a row. 

The report by Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions finds that 48,830 people died due to firearm-related causes in 2021, the highest number on record. This is just over 3,600 more gun deaths than in 2020, and works out to one gun death every 11 minutes.
 

…And, even though 2021 was the deadliest year in U.S. history due to the COVID-19 pandemic, gun deaths among young people still outnumbered COVID deaths. Gun violence was the leading cause of death for those aged between 1 and 19, accounting for 20 percent of deaths among that group.

 

…The data also showed a correlation between gun violence and state laws, with more gun violence occurring in places with looser gun laws. People in Mississippi, the state with the highest rate of gun violence (as well as the highest rate of poverty in the U.S.), were 10 times more likely to die due to gun violence than someone in Massachusetts, which has the lowest rate of gun violence in the U.S. Anti-gun violence group Everytown for Gun Safety has ranked Massachusetts as having among the strongest gun laws, while Mississippi is ranked the worst for gun regulation.

“Our country is breaking records for all the wrong reasons — record gun sales combined with increasingly permissive gun laws are making gun violence a pervasive part of life in our country, leading to a sharp increase in gun deaths,” Ari Davis, the lead author of the report, said in a statement. “Perhaps most troubling is these spikes in homicides and suicides are almost entirely connected to guns.”

Davis further linked the violence with gun purchasing in an interview with NPR, saying that the increase in gun violence is likely related to increases in gun purchases and bills passed by Republicans to weaken gun regulations in recent years. 

“Guns are driving this increase,” Davis said. He added that CDC’s provisional data for the first nine months of 2022 is showing about the same rate of gun deaths as 2021.

The data corroborates other research finding that gun violence is on the rise. According to a report by The Washington Post in February, 2022 was the worst year for school shootings on record, with 46 shootings at K-12 schools. And an analysisfrom Pew Research Center this April found that, between 2019 and 2021, the number of children under 19 dying from gun-related causes increased by nearly 50 percent, the largest increase in child gun deaths since 1999, when the CDC first began collecting such data.

The research demonstrates the extent to which the gun violence crisis is worsening while Republicans are doubling down on efforts to increase gun ownership, ignoring polls finding that the majority of the public wants action to curb, rather than expand, the gun violence epidemic.

By a longshot, the U.S. is a global outlier on gun violence. Among wealthy countries, the U.S. has by far the highest rate of deaths by assault, as well as high rates of suicide, due in large part to gun violence, a report by the Commonwealth Fund found earlier this year. 

 

https://truthout.org/articles/gun-deaths-hit-record-high-of-nearly-49000-in-2021/

Edited June 13, 2023 by BeaverFever

[CdnFox]

Truthout org    Nuff said

Most of the facts are wrong or unsupported.  Example - "highest death rate by assaults' which they don't back up and then claim it's because of guns, which they don't have any data for.

Why even post this tripe. You might as well post crap from the 'white nationalist.org'  showing why crime is all black people's fault'.   Yeash.

[Rebound]

17 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Truthout org    Nuff said

Most of the facts are wrong or unsupported.  Example - "highest death rate by assaults' which they don't back up and then claim it's because of guns, which they don't have any data for.

Why even post this tripe. You might as well post crap from the 'white nationalist.org'  showing why crime is all black people's fault'.   Yeash.

Their source is a report by Johns Hopkins 

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/sites/default/files/2023-06/2023-june-cgvs-u-s-gun-violence-in-2021.pdf

[CdnFox]

39 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Their source is a report by Johns Hopkins 

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/sites/default/files/2023-06/2023-june-cgvs-u-s-gun-violence-in-2021.pdf

The source doesn't jive with their conclusions, and it's jot johns hopkins - it's the johns hopkins center for gun violence which is a little anti gun club associated with the hospital. It's not a medical report after all,

So propaganda on top of propaganda. A hint of their dishonesty is lumping suicides in as 'gun violence'.  we woudn't call people who hanged themselves victims of rope violence.

Or my fave - gun deaths in children are higher EVEN THAN covid 19!!!!

Yeah - covid didn't kill children. But covid is scary so lets make it sound worse than that   LOL - its so childishly transparent.

This is why nothing will EVER move forward in the us with firearms safety or genuine issues. The left and the gun haters are rabidly insane in their nonsense and everyone can see it - while the right is scared that if they give up even a single thing no matter how reasonable the left will use it as an excuse to grab more and more

 

[NYLefty]

Down south where everyone is carrying and 24/7 triggered it's a normal part of the day to shoot someone over a parking spot at the Piggly Wiggly 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, NYLefty said:

Down south where everyone is carrying and 24/7 triggered it's a normal part of the day to shoot someone over a parking spot at the Piggly Wiggly 

So shop at walmart like everyone else

Here's the thing.  A crap tonne of research has been done on this by both pro and anti gun orgs. And when the data is actually analyzed there really isn't much correlation between availability of guns and homicides.  Thats why anti gun orgs usually use the term 'gun violence' or the like. You can say "gun violience' is higher when there's more guns because it's a handy tool for that. But - the actual number of homicides is a different story. Which means if you take the legal guns away that doesn't mean the number of homicides changes much.

And gun laws don't prevent violence - at best they can significantly reduce the number of accidents. Which is great, but not the picture they're trying to paint.  But this has been studied to death, the rate of violence and the gun laws state to state don't line up - states with lots of gun laws frequently have much higher violent crime and death rates than states that don't.

And it works out internationally too. Studies showed that a country's violent crime or death rate had no correlation to it's gun laws.  Places with very strict laws freuqently had higher death rates than those without and vice versa - the presence of gun laws did not indiate what the homicide rate would be.

But the anti gun mob spews this kind of nonsense every year and they all try to tie themselves to an org for legitimacy, but these are not doctors, they're not medical experts by and large, and even the intro sounds like a sales brochure  "We gather only the very best in gun researchers to turn out this amazingly fantastic and unparalleled document". 

Hell, it isn't even peer reviewed.

 

[BeaverFever]

17 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

A crap tonne of research has been done on this by both pro and anti gun orgs. And when the data is actually analyzed there really isn't much correlation between availability of guns and homicides.

Where is your source for that?  White nationalist.org?

 

Typical that your reaction to this thread is to first allege that it is inadequately sourced then make several counterclaims that are completely unsourced. 

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Where is your source for that?  White nationalist.org?

Let me ask you a question.

If i were to provide sources and they were, say, sources like university professors or gov't departments... would it actually change your mind or would you acknowledge it? Or would you just try to change the channel and bluster in another direction because the beloved beliefs of your tribe is being questioned?

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Typical that your reaction to this thread is to first allege that it is inadequately sourced then make several counterclaims that are completely unsourced. 

Typcal of you that you are fine with no sources for the conclusions when it's one you like but you condemn others when it's one you don't like

 

[reason10]

Down south where everyone is carrying and 24/7 triggered it's a normal part of the day to shoot someone over a parking spot at the Piggly Wiggly 

Actually, down south if some scumbag tries to mug an old lady in the parking lot of a Piggly Wiggly, it's considered normal for that old lady to pull out a 38 and put that animal down.

Explain to us again why you think that old lady deserves to be raped and murdered.

 

[reason10]

12 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Gun Deaths Hit Record High of Nearly 49,000 in 2021

Firearms were the leading cause of death for children in 2021, surpassing COVID deaths. 

 

New research based on the latest publicly available data from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) and Prevention finds that 2021 was a record year for gun deaths in the U.S., with deaths hitting a record high for the second year in a row. 

The report by Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions finds that 48,830 people died due to firearm-related causes in 2021, the highest number on record. This is just over 3,600 more gun deaths than in 2020, and works out to one gun death every 11 minutes.
 

…And, even though 2021 was the deadliest year in U.S. history due to the COVID-19 pandemic, gun deaths among young people still outnumbered COVID deaths. Gun violence was the leading cause of death for those aged between 1 and 19, accounting for 20 percent of deaths among that group.

 

…The data also showed a correlation between gun violence and state laws, with more gun violence occurring in places with looser gun laws. People in Mississippi, the state with the highest rate of gun violence (as well as the highest rate of poverty in the U.S.), were 10 times more likely to die due to gun violence than someone in Massachusetts, which has the lowest rate of gun violence in the U.S. Anti-gun violence group Everytown for Gun Safety has ranked Massachusetts as having among the strongest gun laws, while Mississippi is ranked the worst for gun regulation.

“Our country is breaking records for all the wrong reasons — record gun sales combined with increasingly permissive gun laws are making gun violence a pervasive part of life in our country, leading to a sharp increase in gun deaths,” Ari Davis, the lead author of the report, said in a statement. “Perhaps most troubling is these spikes in homicides and suicides are almost entirely connected to guns.”

Davis further linked the violence with gun purchasing in an interview with NPR, saying that the increase in gun violence is likely related to increases in gun purchases and bills passed by Republicans to weaken gun regulations in recent years. 

“Guns are driving this increase,” Davis said. He added that CDC’s provisional data for the first nine months of 2022 is showing about the same rate of gun deaths as 2021.

The data corroborates other research finding that gun violence is on the rise. According to a report by The Washington Post in February, 2022 was the worst year for school shootings on record, with 46 shootings at K-12 schools. And an analysisfrom Pew Research Center this April found that, between 2019 and 2021, the number of children under 19 dying from gun-related causes increased by nearly 50 percent, the largest increase in child gun deaths since 1999, when the CDC first began collecting such data.

The research demonstrates the extent to which the gun violence crisis is worsening while Republicans are doubling down on efforts to increase gun ownership, ignoring polls finding that the majority of the public wants action to curb, rather than expand, the gun violence epidemic.

By a longshot, the U.S. is a global outlier on gun violence. Among wealthy countries, the U.S. has by far the highest rate of deaths by assault, as well as high rates of suicide, due in large part to gun violence, a report by the Commonwealth Fund found earlier this year. 

 

https://truthout.org/articles/gun-deaths-hit-record-high-of-nearly-49000-in-2021/

That fake news rag is so full of shit.

And you left wing goose steppers wonder why everybody says you're so stupid.

Compare Mississippi with Massatoosets? NPR? WaPo?

You must have taken a whole bottle of STUPID pills this morning, to spew that lying link.

[Rebound]

Let me get this straight:

Guns are now the leading cause of childhood death in America, and the answer from the Right is to “protect children” by banning drag shows and ultra-rare surgical procedures?  
 

How many children have been killed by drag shows and sex reassignment surgery? 

Edited June 13, 2023 by Rebound

[Aristides]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The source doesn't jive with their conclusions, and it's jot johns hopkins - it's the johns hopkins center for gun violence which is a little anti gun club associated with the hospital. It's not a medical report after all,

So propaganda on top of propaganda. A hint of their dishonesty is lumping suicides in as 'gun violence'.  we woudn't call people who hanged themselves victims of rope violence.

Or my fave - gun deaths in children are higher EVEN THAN covid 19!!!!

Yeah - covid didn't kill children. But covid is scary so lets make it sound worse than that   LOL - its so childishly transparent.

This is why nothing will EVER move forward in the us with firearms safety or genuine issues. The left and the gun haters are rabidly insane in their nonsense and everyone can see it - while the right is scared that if they give up even a single thing no matter how reasonable the left will use it as an excuse to grab more and more

 

The data came from the CDC. The Hopkin's study does differentiate between suicides and homicides. There were just under 21,000 gun homicides. 

Also:

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Gun homicides continued to rise in 2021, increasing 7.6% over the previous year. Gun suicides reached record levels, increasing 8.3%, the largest one-year increase recorded in over four decades. Guns, once again, were the leading cause of death among children and teens in 2021 accounting for more deaths than COVID-19, car crashes, or cancers.1

Edited June 13, 2023 by Aristides

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The data came from the CDC. The Hopkin's study does differentiate between suicides and homicides. There were just under 21,000 gun homicides. 

Also:

Not in the bits quoted. for example they mix suicide and accidents into the "gun deaths" for children.  And fail to mention the majority of the homicides are gang and drug related with young teens shooting other young teens.

And the conclusions from the data are not from the CDC.

 

And look at the it you quoted.  GUNS KILL MORE KIDS THAN COVID!! OR CANCER!!!   Kids don't die from covid and rarely die from cancer.  At least the car stat has some relevance, kids do ride in cars.  But it's like saying more die from guns than chewing bubble gum - that's just not a cause of death for kids.

But - Covid sounds Scaaaarrrry. And Cancer sounds scaaaarrry.

Like i said. there's been a lot of research over the years. Access to guns  is not a big driver in homicide rates. There's no correlation generally speaking.  And for all the research as far as gun laws go only a few laws make any difference and for the most part they prevent accidents. Black listing criminals and those identified as 'dangerous' helps a small amount but those people often then go on to kill using other tools anyway. The top mass murders in us history don't include guns and the top mass murderers (spread over time) didn't tend to either.

 

[Deluge]

15 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Gun Deaths Hit Record High of Nearly 49,000 in 2021

Firearms were the leading cause of death for children in 2021, surpassing COVID deaths. 

 

New research based on the latest publicly available data from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) and Prevention finds that 2021 was a record year for gun deaths in the U.S., with deaths hitting a record high for the second year in a row. 

The report by Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions finds that 48,830 people died due to firearm-related causes in 2021, the highest number on record. This is just over 3,600 more gun deaths than in 2020, and works out to one gun death every 11 minutes.
 

…And, even though 2021 was the deadliest year in U.S. history due to the COVID-19 pandemic, gun deaths among young people still outnumbered COVID deaths. Gun violence was the leading cause of death for those aged between 1 and 19, accounting for 20 percent of deaths among that group.

 

…The data also showed a correlation between gun violence and state laws, with more gun violence occurring in places with looser gun laws. People in Mississippi, the state with the highest rate of gun violence (as well as the highest rate of poverty in the U.S.), were 10 times more likely to die due to gun violence than someone in Massachusetts, which has the lowest rate of gun violence in the U.S. Anti-gun violence group Everytown for Gun Safety has ranked Massachusetts as having among the strongest gun laws, while Mississippi is ranked the worst for gun regulation.

“Our country is breaking records for all the wrong reasons — record gun sales combined with increasingly permissive gun laws are making gun violence a pervasive part of life in our country, leading to a sharp increase in gun deaths,” Ari Davis, the lead author of the report, said in a statement. “Perhaps most troubling is these spikes in homicides and suicides are almost entirely connected to guns.”

Davis further linked the violence with gun purchasing in an interview with NPR, saying that the increase in gun violence is likely related to increases in gun purchases and bills passed by Republicans to weaken gun regulations in recent years. 

“Guns are driving this increase,” Davis said. He added that CDC’s provisional data for the first nine months of 2022 is showing about the same rate of gun deaths as 2021.

The data corroborates other research finding that gun violence is on the rise. According to a report by The Washington Post in February, 2022 was the worst year for school shootings on record, with 46 shootings at K-12 schools. And an analysisfrom Pew Research Center this April found that, between 2019 and 2021, the number of children under 19 dying from gun-related causes increased by nearly 50 percent, the largest increase in child gun deaths since 1999, when the CDC first began collecting such data.

The research demonstrates the extent to which the gun violence crisis is worsening while Republicans are doubling down on efforts to increase gun ownership, ignoring polls finding that the majority of the public wants action to curb, rather than expand, the gun violence epidemic.

By a longshot, the U.S. is a global outlier on gun violence. Among wealthy countries, the U.S. has by far the highest rate of deaths by assault, as well as high rates of suicide, due in large part to gun violence, a report by the Commonwealth Fund found earlier this year. 

 

https://truthout.org/articles/gun-deaths-hit-record-high-of-nearly-49000-in-2021/

Those gang bangers and other criminal psychopaths are a real menace. 

[CdnFox]

38 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Let me get this straight:

Guns are now the leading cause of childhood death in America, and the answer from the Right is to “protect children” by banning drag shows and ultra-rare surgical procedures?  
 

No, that's stupid.  But it is a prime example why intelligent conversations can't be had about the issue.

The fact its it's not really about 'guns' - what's killing the kids is gangs and drugs. Most of those 'gun deaths' come from activity directly related - kids shooting kids for crime reasons.

So the correct response is to target criminals and crime orgs and try to stop the kids from killing each other. Because a) the bad guys will always get guns and b) if they can't they'll use knives.

But instead of discussing that rationally you come up with some bullshit about how the rights response involves drag queens. Which we both know isn't true.

So basically you're fine with kids getting killed as long as you can find a way to make republicans look bad.  Great.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

Those gang bangers and other criminal psychopaths are a real menace. 

Yes - the vast majority of the increase is homicide due to criminal activity.

Of course - if we're talking about total numbers considering the population is increasing there will likely always be more this year than last year in most years anyway if nothing else changes

 

[Aristides]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Not in the bits quoted. for example they mix suicide and accidents into the "gun deaths" for children.  And fail to mention the majority of the homicides are gang and drug related with young teens shooting other young teens.

And the conclusions from the data are not from the CDC.

 

And look at the it you quoted.  GUNS KILL MORE KIDS THAN COVID!! OR CANCER!!!   Kids don't die from covid and rarely die from cancer.  At least the car stat has some relevance, kids do ride in cars.  But it's like saying more die from guns than chewing bubble gum - that's just not a cause of death for kids.

But - Covid sounds Scaaaarrrry. And Cancer sounds scaaaarrry.

Like i said. there's been a lot of research over the years. Access to guns  is not a big driver in homicide rates. There's no correlation generally speaking.  And for all the research as far as gun laws go only a few laws make any difference and for the most part they prevent accidents. Black listing criminals and those identified as 'dangerous' helps a small amount but those people often then go on to kill using other tools anyway. The top mass murders in us history don't include guns and the top mass murderers (spread over time) didn't tend to either.

 

Why do you intentionally ignore auto deaths?

The US has the highest gun homicide rate among developed countries by far. It also has the most guns per capita by far.

[Deluge]

27 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The US has the highest gun homicide rate among developed countries by far. It also has the most guns per capita by far.

When will you gun grabbers learn that the 2nd Amendment is not going away?

You perverts may get off on the idea of rampant crime and government overreach, but the rest of us aren't going to put up with it. 

[Rebound]

11 minutes ago, Deluge said:

When will you gun grabbers learn that the 2nd Amendment is not going away?

You perverts may get off on the idea of rampant crime and government overreach, but the rest of us aren't going to put up with it. 

The Second Amendment?

So the First Amendment makes it legal for a man to wear a dress, but you don’t mind banning that to “protect children,” but restricting semiauto weapons which are actually killing 10,000’s of children is something you won’t do?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

How many children have been killed by drag shows and sex reassignment surgery? 

For this you're looking at the wrong stats. You should peruse suicide statistics post treatment, this way its unbiased.

48 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The US has the highest gun homicide rate among developed countries by far. It also has the most guns per capita by far.

Regulation won't do much, unless you make it painfully difficult to get a gun. This would be a tough call, as gun lobbyists are incredibly powerful, and won't just allow for this right to be taken away,  along with the cash flow that comes with it.

[CdnFox]

40 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Why do you intentionally ignore auto deaths?

 

You mean other than the reason i pretty specifically stated?

Auto deaths are at least some what relevant because kids do travel in cars. But they generally don't die from covid or cancer. It happens but it's extremely rare. But they're nice scary words 

 

42 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The US has the highest gun homicide rate among developed countries by far. It also has the most guns per capita by far.

Do you really need me to explain why that's kind of silly to mention? 'gun homicide'  rates are irrelevant, unless you think it ONLY matters when people die by a gun. Homicide rates matter.  And the US is not the highest homicide rate in the developed nations.

So - countries with far less guns have higher homicide rates. And some with as many guns have lower crime rates. Switzerland for example where many people have an automatic rifle at home if they're military age.

You're trying to suggest that correlation is causation.

The problem with homicides in the states is criminal activity. Mostly gang on gang.  So it would be more reasonable to say that the presence of gangs and organized crime and criminals is the cause of death, not the presence of guns.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Rebound said:

The Second Amendment?

So the First Amendment makes it legal for a man to wear a dress, but you don’t mind banning that to “protect children,” but restricting semiauto weapons which are actually killing 10,000’s of children is something you won’t do?

Literally nobody is banning men from wearing a dress.

why must you lie to try to make your point?

[Deluge]

25 minutes ago, Rebound said:

The Second Amendment?

So the First Amendment makes it legal for a man to wear a dress, but you don’t mind banning that to “protect children,” but restricting semiauto weapons which are actually killing 10,000’s of children is something you won’t do?

If a man simply wants to wear a dress and that's it, then he can knock himself out. If he wants to dress in drag and either gyrate in front of children or read them stories, then we have a problem. 

Law abiding citizens should have ZERO gun restrictions. Everyone else needs to be hunted down and thrown in prison, and I don't care if 1000 Supermax facilities need to be constructed to get that done. 

Edited June 13, 2023 by Deluge

[herbie]

Just f***ing trolls. Can't even discuss the issue so they argue facts are fake news.

How about another 'more thoughts and prayers because that's best we can do' speech to the NRA.

[Rebound]

9 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

For this you're looking at the wrong stats. You should peruse suicide statistics post treatment, this way its unbiased.

Regulation won't do much, unless you make it painfully difficult to get a gun. This would be a tough call, as gun lobbyists are incredibly powerful, and won't just allow for this right to be taken away,  along with the cash flow that comes with it.

The suicide statistics show that guns are overwhelmingly used in suicides, and if we had fewer guns, there would be fewer suicides.  

[Deluge]

16 minutes ago, herbie said:

Just f***ing trolls. Can't even discuss the issue so they argue facts are fake news.

How about another 'more thoughts and prayers because that's best we can do' speech to the NRA.

Thoughts and prayers are appropriate. 

Now get out there and help stop crime. Guns don't attack by themselves, you know.