Muslims and Christians unite on the streets of Ottawa, trampling the Gender Ideology Flag

[Americana Antifa]

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well if you'd take the time to write them down as you make them up then this wouldn't be a problem would it.   

I know, right? When I made up that conspiracy about the election being stolen from Trump, I should have wrote that shit down.

[OftenWrong]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada is the only Confederation of the British Empire

at its zenith, the British Empire was majority Hindu, Sikh, Muslim, Chinese & African

now of course Kaiser Bill & Co thought they could incite a violent revolution against the Crown therein

but the opposite happened

all the Hindus. Sikhs, Muslims, Chinese & Africans fought & died for the British Crown

in both World Wars

thus they have earned their place here therein, paid for in blood

Cuidich 'n Righ

 

You know your history and you know Canada. Thanks for reminding non-Canadians who don't know about our past how we got to be one of the most tolerant and modern societies in the world.

[Guest]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

maybe I can get them interested in Jesus of Nazareth

certainly amongst the Chinese & Latin Americans ; Protestantism is the fasted growing faith

Fill your boots.  Jesus was a tolerant guy.

[West]

3 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

You are wrong that Canadians hate the LGBTQ. We already have accepted them as a normal part of our society, and that was 20 years ago. What's being done now is force-feeding the message of alternate lifestyles on the very young and on conservatives, to the point it offends the rights of the very weak. Drag Queen's giving lectures in the classroom are not representative of ordinary trans-sexual people. Transgender men are being allowed into women's sports. I mean to defend children and women's rights, not to promote hate towards the gay community.

So, to the devil with your revisionist and hateful analogy.

What you are seeing now is backlash against the rainbow nazis. 

This sh^t ain't normal

Edited June 11, 2023 by West

[blackbird]

9 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Fill your boots.  Jesus was a tolerant guy.

We have all heard that nonsense before.  Total nonsense.  Since you don't even believe in God, Jesus or the Bible, how do you have any knowledge about such matters to begin with?   You just use the name to try to score a brownie point with false claims.

[Guest]

Just now, blackbird said:

We have all heard that nonsense before.  Total nonsense.  Since you don't even believe in God, Jesus or the Bible, how do you have any knowledge about such matters to begin with?   You just use the name to try to score a brownie point with false claims.

What, you think he was evil?  What kind of a Christian are you?

I never said he was a God.  I said he was a tolerant guy.  Not of money lenders, of course, but apparently he liked good Samaritans.  He seemed like quite a nice fellow.

Nicer than you, anyway.

[blackbird]

Just now, bcsapper said:

What, you think he was evil?  What kind of a Christian are you?

I never said he was a God.  I said he was a tolerant guy.  Not of money lenders, of course, but apparently he liked good Samaritans.  He seemed like quite a nice fellow.

Nicer than you, anyway.

I'm 100% sure he was nicer than me.  He was God.  I am a fallen sinner saved by grace through Jesus Christ.  You are also a fallen sinner, but see yourself as someone who doesn't need God or the Savior or salvation. You have a serious problem.  You are part of the corrupt, fallen world but don't even recognize your problem. 

Using the name of Jesus in a discussion when you don't even believe in God, Jesus or the Bible is pretty dicy.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

I'm 100% sure he was nicer than me.  He was God.  I am a fallen sinner saved by grace through Jesus Christ.  You are also a fallen sinner, but see yourself as someone who doesn't need God or the Savior or salvation. You have a serious problem.  You are part of the corrupt, fallen world but don't even recognize your problem. 

Using the name of Jesus in a discussion when you don't even believe in God, Jesus or the Bible is pretty dicy.

I used the name of Jesus the man, not Jesus the God.  It's not my fault if you extrapolated.

[blackbird]

Just now, bcsapper said:

I used the name of Jesus the man, not Jesus the God.  It's not my fault if you extrapolated.

You said he was tolerant, which can mean almost anything.  What was he tolerant of?  Homosexuality, LGBT or what?  Was he tolerant of sin?  Stealing, murder, sexual abuse, pedophila?  What do you think he was tolerant of?

[Guest]

Just now, blackbird said:

You said he was tolerant, which can mean almost anything.  What was he tolerant of?  Homosexuality, LGBT or what?  Was he tolerant of sin?  Stealing, murder, sexual abuse, pedophila?  What do you think he was tolerant of?

Well I never actually met him, but I'm pretty sure he would have been extremely intolerant of those who would punish others for loving each other.  Worse than money lenders, I bet!

Which is the only one you care about, right?  Or you wouldn't have thrown it in with the rest. 

[blackbird]

31 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Fill your boots.  Jesus was a tolerant guy.

He was not tolerant of unbelievers.    "36  He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. "   John 3:36 KJV
 

He was tolerant of those who believe on him, but non-believers is a whole different matter.  His gospel says they are on their way to eternal damnation.

[blackbird]

3 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Well I never actually met him, but I'm pretty sure he would have been extremely intolerant of those who would punish others for loving each other.  Worse than money lenders, I bet!

Which is the only one you care about, right?  Or you wouldn't have thrown it in with the rest. 

Jesus was tolerant and forgave those who accept Him as Lord and Savior, but those who reject Him are a different matter.  Jesus clearly taught salvation is by faith in him.  Those who reject that face eternal damnation.    That is really all there is to say about "tolerance".  

Edited June 11, 2023 by blackbird

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, blackbird said:

He was not tolerant of unbelievers.    "36  He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. "   John 3:36 KJV
 

He was tolerant of those who believe on him, but non-believers is a whole different matter.  His gospel says they are on their way to eternal damnation.

Well, sure, your Jesus.  My Jesus probably has more chance of having existed.

[Americana Antifa]

33 minutes ago, West said:

What you are seeing now is backlash against the rainbow nazis. 

This sh^t ain't normal

Yes... a musician performing with a strap-on is a totally new thing that has never happened over and over in America.

[blackbird]

2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Well, sure, your Jesus.  My Jesus probably has more chance of having existed.

I don't know what exactly you mean, but it sounds like you make up your own belief system.  Sorry to have to break it to you but there is only one truth, the King James Bible.   If you want to know the truth, you have to read and study it.  Otherwise you are living in a fictitious world.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

I don't know what exactly you mean, but it sounds like you make up your own belief system.  Sorry to have to break it to you but there is only one truth, the King James Bible.   If you want to know the truth, you have to read and study it.  Otherwise you are living in a fictitious world.

Well, as always, it's been a fascinating ten minutes.  Go ahead, have the last word.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

I know, right? When I made up that conspiracy about the election being stolen from Trump, I should have wrote that shit down.

You did write it down - that was just a re-hash of your 2016 "trump stole the election - russians!"  routine.  And you wrote about that for 4 years straight  

Strangely - despite making a huge deal of it every single day for 4 years you seem to have forgotton that you did that now and are shocked ... SHOCKED I SAY!... that someone came up with the exact same idea now. 

Shocked!

[Americana Antifa]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You did write it down - that was just a re-hash of your 2016 "trump stole the election - russians!"  routine.  And you wrote about that for 4 years straight  

Nope, I never said that. Must have been one of the voices in your head.

You can try to find evidence of me making that claim, I've discussed the 2016 election here and there. Good luck.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I have met a lot of immigrants and worked with a lot of immigrants and have a lot of immigrants as neighbours. Approximately NONE have left their homeland because of its conservative views. They came here for what they hoped would be an economically better life in a safe, ordered society. 

I come from refugee parents, and that is precisely why my mother took the riskiest route to Canada vs settle in the US where most my relatives live.

She knew there would be opportunities, and also had heard of cities where her strong French wouldn't penalize her in getting a good job, vs minimum wage.

She also fled persecution from the Duvalier presidency.

My wife is from the Philippines.

Most Filipinos I know don't flee their country. They leave it to find opportunity. Many return home when they have sufficient capital to start a business and buy property.

They are incredibly skilled, speak great English and just want work. It is not uncommon to see Filipino people have multiple jobs, along with many other immigrants.

I had friends from countries like India, Cambodia, China  Iraq and everywhere in between. 

Common theme was opportunity, and a better life for their kids. 

My wife's daughter with her ex, may be gay but for her to hear people state that there are no genders, is jarring. This is just not a thing over there. 

Her daughter knows she's a woman, so while she lives and let's live, keep your such teachings away from her.

I see a similar sentiment among many immigrants. 

We are a multicultural country, meaning we should be able to co-exist together.

Muslim people don't drill their beliefs down your throats. Just please, respect their beliefs.

I don't like seeing the LGBTQ flag stomped, as this flag has nothing to do with what one may be angry about. I find it to be a slap to the face of many in that community, who feel some of their own, have become ridiculous and are hurting people in the community they are claiming to protect with their divisive messages.

It is being used to advance an ideology.

[blackbird]

24 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Well, as always, it's been a fascinating ten minutes.  Go ahead, have the last word.

Actually there are many people, maybe millions, who have never studied the Bible, but assume Jesus was some kind of Socialist.  That is why many Latin Americans supported Communist revolutions and Socialism.  You even have a place like Honduras that recently has joined hands with Communist China.  Then you have Cuba.  All kinds of religious people (Romanists mainly) in these countries and many of them believe Jesus was a tolerant Socialist or Communist and a progressive that somehow approves of LGBT, MAID, etc.

The problem with this thinking is it is totally contrary to what the Bible says.

"

Socialism advocates forced redistribution, the Bible prohibits theft.

The thing about socialism is that it can’t work without taking away the liberty and freedom of citizens. Socialism only works if the government can force individuals to give up their property (money or assets) to the whims or desires of the state. If even a few prominent citizens did not want to give up their assets, the system could not be initiated. Thus, the system of socialism necessitates forced redistribution."

Some Thoughts on Socialism and the Bible - Shepherds Theological Seminary

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

Nope, I never said that. Must have been one of the voices in your head.

Sure kiddo   Just like you never said jews are all nazi's right   just my imagination,, silly me

 

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You can try to find evidence of me making that claim, I've discussed the 2016 election here and there. Good luck.

LOL - well i had to go waaaaay back - as far as april. LOLOL

you in april in a discussion specifically about Russian collusion in the election

"The truth is, the Benghazi scandal was completely manufactured by the media. Whereas the Russia scandal was real, but the Republicans pretend Trump didn't do anything wrong because he wasn't arrested. "

And on April 9th in a different thread:

On 4/9/2023 at 6:17 AM, Zeitgeist said:

Wow you’re in a bubble.  What about the Durham Report that explains how almost all of the Hillary Camp’s attempts to smear the Trump campaign through the accusations of Russian collusion were false?

That's not authoritarian, that's just oppo research. Also, the accusations weren't false.

 

There's a few dozen more if you like. 

I don't normally do memes - but i think you've earned a special one today

[Americana Antifa]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

Sure kiddo   Just like you never said jews are all nazi's right   just my imagination,, silly me

 

LOL - well i had to go waaaaay back - as far as april. LOLOL

you in april in a discussion specifically about Russian collusion in the election

"The truth is, the Benghazi scandal was completely manufactured by the media. Whereas the Russia scandal was real, but the Republicans pretend Trump didn't do anything wrong because he wasn't arrested. "

And on April 9th in a different thread:

That's not authoritarian, that's just oppo research. Also, the accusations weren't false.

 

There's a few dozen more if you like. 

I don't normally do memes - but i think you've earned a special one today

Wow, talk about a war on straw.

So here was what you actually said: You did write it down - that was just a re-hash of your 2016 "trump stole the election - russians!"  routine.  And you wrote about that for 4 years straight.

I acknowledged that Russia helped Trump win and that Trump should not have accepted their offer of help. This was a really bad scandal. However, I never said he stole the election. I never denied that he won, the way fascists deny that Biden won in 2020. I think the election was very problematic in how Russia was allowed to interfere, plus Trump lost the popular vote, but Trump still won without breaking any laws.

But this is the way of the conservative. Every accusation is a confession. Y'all do the same thing by saying Hillary refused to concede, when really she conceded the next day. This is actually a deflection from Trump, who actually refused to concede.

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, bcsapper said:

  Jesus was a tolerant guy.

not actually

He constantly rebuked religious leaders of the time and strictly warned people against sinful behaviour

He threw the money lenders out of the Temple in a rage

and defied the Romans in claiming that He was King of the Hebrews

He was a zealous revolutionary in fact, full of fire & brimstone

thus why Pontious Pilates had Him executed for treason by crucifixion

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

not actually

He constantly rebuked religious leaders of the time and strictly warned people against sinful behaviour

He threw the money lenders out of the Temple in a rage

and defied the Romans in claiming that He was King of the Hebrews

He was a zealous revolutionary in fact, full of fire & brimstone

thus why Pontious Pilates had Him executed for treason by crucifixion

I thought it was because everyone shouted for Barabbas.  Of course, that was just in the Gospels, so who knows?

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

I thought it was because everyone shouted for Barabbas.  Of course, that was just in the Gospels, so who knows?

that was at the trial on charge of committing treason against Caesar for Jesus claiming that He was King