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51 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Notice how laws mean something to democrats when it doesn't affect pet projects like illegal immigration. 

Nice try, but Ronald Reagan’s deliberate criminal acts has nothing to do with illegal immigration.  
 

That’s the defense you guys have to everything: Deflection. Benghazi! Laptop!  Shiny Thing!  
 

Fact: Ronald Reagan was a traitor to the United States of America.  You do not deny it.  

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5 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Nice try, but Ronald Reagan’s deliberate criminal acts has nothing to do with illegal immigration.  
 

That’s the defense you guys have to everything: Deflection. Benghazi! Laptop!  Shiny Thing!  
 

Fact: Ronald Reagan was a traitor to the United States of America.  You do not deny it.  

No, you have the "nice try".

I'm talking about your bullshit inconsistencies; you know, leftists and their levels of convenience. In your eyes, what Ronald Reagan did was unforgivable, but what Biden's doing with illegal immigration is to be celebrated.

Do you not see the hypocrisy? I sure as hell do, and that's the point. 

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8 minutes ago, Deluge said:

No, you have the "nice try".

I'm talking about your bullshit inconsistencies; you know, leftists and their levels of convenience. In your eyes, what Ronald Reagan did was unforgivable, but what Biden's doing with illegal immigration is to be celebrated.

Do you not see the hypocrisy? I sure as hell do, and that's the point. 

Start a different thread about illegal immigration. Ronald Traitor Reagan did what he did in 1980, and throughout his presidency. That’s 40 years ago and it has nothing to do with law enforcement policies in 2023.

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12 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Start a different thread about illegal immigration. Ronald Traitor Reagan did what he did in 1980, and throughout his presidency. That’s 40 years ago and it has nothing to do with law enforcement policies in 2023.

I don't agree with what he did with Iran, but what other arms deals are you talking about? You said "throughout his presidency"; what are you referring to there?

Reagan was no traitor. Democrats, on the other hand, fit the traitor profile so much better. 

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2 minutes ago, Deluge said:

I don't agree with what he did in Iran, but what other arms deals are you talking about? You said "throughout his presidency"; what are you referring to there?

Reagan was no traitor. Democrats, on the other hand, fit the traitor profile so much better. 

Traitor Ronald Reagan sold weapons to Iran throughout his Presidency, as payment for Iran’s keeping the hostages until the hour of Reagan’s swearing in.  
 

The weapons sales were very well documented in the Iran-Contra scandal.  

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Just now, Rebound said:

Traitor Ronald Reagan sold weapons to Iran throughout his Presidency, as payment for Iran’s keeping the hostages until the hour of Reagan’s swearing in.  

Interesting. You wouldn't happen to have the schedule of payments throughout his presidency would you? Or are you just making that shit up? 

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On 3/18/2023 at 7:26 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

If true that's pretty vile.  It's amazing how often politicians and the people working for them sell their souls for power.

And here, unlike America, we have next to zero working and functional checks and controls over them. Who could help us? What?

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On 3/20/2023 at 8:19 AM, Rebound said:

Oh for F’s sake?

Are you F-ing kidding?

Yes, of course taking the Americans hostage was not Ronald Reagan’s doing, but holding them a full 444 days WAS Reagan’s doing.  
 

It NEVER made any sense that the Iranians released the hostages one hour after Reagan was sworn in as President… and then we learned, years later, that Reagan had been secretly selling weapons to Iran, via Japan, for years.  
 

Now we have an 85 year-old attorney admit that they cut a deal with Iran to hold the hostages, and it is backed up by four witnesses AND documentary evidence that he and John Connelly of Texas traveled to Jordan and Cairo to cut this deal. 
 

That is a viscious, evil crime — your superhero Ronald Reagan kept those poor people held in brutal captivity FOR A YEAR in order to get elected President. Sorry that your moral compass is so bent out of shape that you don’t see any difference between a month or two of captivity versus over a year of it.  The Iranians didn’t treat the American hostages nicely at all.  

That is ALL A LIE.

The world knows that the rag heads who took the hostages did so because they knew Carter was an incompetent liberal redneck who would not do anything about it. And they assumed that Reagan was just crazy enough to order a major strike against the entire country of Iran, maybe even NUKING all those ragheads.

The Soviet Union lost ground in Afghanistan and wound up folding because THEY were afraid Ronald RayGun would just nuke them and get it over with.

How in the name of ZEUS'S BUTTHOLE could Private Citizen Reagan (WITHOUT ANY FCKING PRESIDENTIAL AUTHORITY AT ALL) somehow manage to keep the American hostages in place and prevent their release? Where would he have gotten the power to do that?

Congress was controlled by the Democrats. I didn't see THOSE !diots taking any major steps to effect a release.

Nobody cut a deal with anybody. You weren't even born when that schit went down. Get your head out of THE VIEW'S ass.

Reagan came into office, fixed a tanking economy, STOPPED the forward progress of the Soviet Union and gave  use 8 very prosperous years.  Those are the facts.

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Reagan, by the way, had nothing to do with the fall of the Soviet Union. That was Gorbachev’s doing.  The Reagan story is just a myth. 
 

When Hitler pummeled 2/3 of the Soviet Union to rubble and killed over 40 million Soviets, guess what? There was still a Soviet Union.  In fact, no government ever in world history “collapsed” because they couldn’t pay their bills. The USSR collapsed because Gorbachev permitted it. He said he would do it and he did.  

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23 hours ago, Rebound said:

I’m not going to give you a history lesson on the Iran-Contra scandal.  Do some reading. 

Oh, it wouldn't be you giving me a lesson, lol. It would be me ripping your bullshit apart. 

You can retract the word "throughout" and start over, if you like. ;) 

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24 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Reagan, by the way, had nothing to do with the fall of the Soviet Union. That was Gorbachev’s doing.  The Reagan story is just a myth. 
 

When Hitler pummeled 2/3 of the Soviet Union to rubble and killed over 40 million Soviets, guess what? There was still a Soviet Union.  In fact, no government ever in world history “collapsed” because they couldn’t pay their bills. The USSR collapsed because Gorbachev permitted it. He said he would do it and he did.  

Thanks to Reagan. Without Reagan, and the influence of the US, Gorbachev would've kept things status quo. 

Reagan was the best President in the last 60 0r 70 years - maybe even farther back than that. 

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34 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Thanks to Reagan. Without Reagan, and the influence of the US, Gorbachev would've kept things status quo. 

Reagan was the best President in the last 60 0r 70 years - maybe even farther back than that. 

Just cause somebody told you that, doesn’t make it true. 
Can you name a single other nation in all of history which just ceased to exist solely because they ran out of money? Like… all those incredibly poor African nations… which one vanished because they ran out of money?  
Yeah, that’s right… you can’t name a single one. But you want to believe that the USSR just ran out of rubles and vanished.  

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26 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Just cause somebody told you that, doesn’t make it true. 
Can you name a single other nation in all of history which just ceased to exist solely because they ran out of money? Like… all those incredibly poor African nations… which one vanished because they ran out of money?  
Yeah, that’s right… you can’t name a single one. But you want to believe that the USSR just ran out of rubles and vanished.  

Rebound, you don't know what you're talking about - you're a democrat, for f*ck's sake. lol

Reagan was a superior president. he was one of the best. He was also a statesman - something none of your piece of shit presidents have even come close to - John F Kennedy is an exception but he hardly resembled today's democrats; it's a laugh to even think about it. 

USSR is gone, and President Reagan is a huge part of that. None of your moronic presidents would have been a part of that, in fact they probably would've been Lenin and Stalin disciples encouraging Gorbachev to keep the USSR intact. 

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1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Rebound, you don't know what you're talking about - you're a democrat, for f*ck's sake. lol

Reagan was a superior president. he was one of the best. He was also a statesman - something none of your piece of shit presidents have even come close to - John F Kennedy is an exception but he hardly resembled today's democrats; it's a laugh to even think about it. 

USSR is gone, and President Reagan is a huge part of that. None of your moronic presidents would have been a part of that, in fact they probably would've been Lenin and Stalin disciples encouraging Gorbachev to keep the USSR intact. 

The answer to my questions?

“I don’t know what I’m talking about” 

Hey stupid!! They were questions. If you’re so smart, answer them.

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2 hours ago, Deluge said:

Thanks to Reagan. Without Reagan, and the influence of the US, Gorbachev would've kept things status quo. 

Reagan was the best President in the last 60 0r 70 years - maybe even farther back than that. 

“Without Reagan, Gorbachev would have kept the status quo.”

Which is a pretty odd conclusion, since the USSR didn’t fall until long after Reagan left office.  

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1 hour ago, Rebound said:

“Without Reagan, Gorbachev would have kept the status quo.”

Which is a pretty odd conclusion, since the USSR didn’t fall until long after Reagan left office.  

Not really. Reagan had already left a great impression, and GHWB was smart enough to not screw up Reagan's work.

Besides, it wasn't even a year after Reagan left office that the wall came down. 

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1 hour ago, Rebound said:

The answer to my questions?

“I don’t know what I’m talking about” 

Hey stupid!! They were questions. If you’re so smart, answer them.

What questions, silly democrat?

Gorbachev was a reformer. He introduced "glasnost" and "perestroika". With the help of Ronald Reagan, he saw how destructive communism is and decided to make the changes. 

 

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34 minutes ago, Deluge said:

What questions, silly democrat?

Gorbachev was a reformer. He introduced "glasnost" and "perestroika". With the help of Ronald Reagan, he saw how destructive communism is and decided to make the changes. 

 

What change did Gorbachev implement which eliminated the Soviet Union? How did the Soviet Union become abolished, and what took its place? 

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On 3/18/2023 at 2:44 PM, Rebound said:

After forty-three years, the has come out: An attorney confessed that he and John Connelly, working for Reagan, convinced the Iranians to keep fifty-three Americans in captivity, promising them Reagan would give them “a better deal.” Connelly was subsequently named Secretary of the Navy by Reagan  

History tells us the rest: The hostages were held in Iran 444 days, and released January 20, 1981, just minutes after Ronald Reagan was sworn in. And after that, we know for a fact that the Reagan Administration illegally sold arms to Iran through France and Japan. 
 

Full Coverage here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/18/us/politics/jimmy-carter-october-surprise-iran-hostages.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Q: Who's stupid enough to just quote NYT? A: ^That guy^.

Is there any more proof than just the accusation of one man?

Your post makes it sound like Reagan went to them early on and then they held them for hundreds more days, so no matter what the actual case is, you are at the very least lying by exaggeration.

 

If that's mainly true, it was highly illegal for Reagan to deal with those guys on behalf of the US while he wasn't an elected official. Reagan must have already been the president-elect when he initially started talking to the Iranians, in which case you're also lying by omission, and then he only started talking to them after approx 400 days. That also means that Carter wasn't really getting anything done, was he....

 

So how many times did you lie there? Once by exaggeration and once by omission? Not bad for a leftist if you only lied twice.

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On 3/20/2023 at 8:38 AM, Deluge said:

No, you have the "nice try".

I'm talking about your bullshit inconsistencies; you know, leftists and their levels of convenience. In your eyes, what Ronald Reagan did was unforgivable, but what Biden's doing with illegal immigration is to be celebrated.

Do you not see the hypocrisy? I sure as hell do, and that's the point. 

Your FALSE EQUIVALENCE is just DRIVEL.

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