Fat Trudeau becomes unglued when a Canadian doesn't support his corrupt war in Ukraine

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Who hasn't though? 

Trudeau is Putin, Putin is Trudeau

[Dougie93]

18 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Who hasn't though? 

the problems of the Russian military are very similar to the problems of the Canadian Forces, on a larger scale

corrupt & inept bureaucracies who can't build the military hardware they need, even if they throw money at it

again, the Russians are dining out on what the Soviets built

the Soviets were an actual government which could get things done

Russia now, not so much

same with Canada, which dined out on what the British built

the Sukhoi Su-57 PAKFA is the Russian Avro Arrow

Edited March 4, 2023 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

30 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Reminds me of the classic line: "And if you screw up just this much, you'll be flying cargo planes full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong, Maverick!"

the main thing to glean,  is that the PLA is an ideological army not a fighting force

the PLA is the military arm of the CCP

the role of the PLA is to defend the party not the country

they don't actually know how to fight wars, they just mimic, they go through the motions, it's a simulacrum

a classic Communist Potemkin Village

 they don't have a chain of command with the institutional knowledge to conduct operations at scale

and their totalitarian system would never let a military genius advance

just like Canada, it's not about how good a General you are, only how loyal you are to the regime

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[Dougie93]

bear in mind, it's not that I say that the Communists are not a mortal peril

they did after all mass murder over one hundred million people in the last century, forty million of them in China

but if you think that the Chinese are just going to run the table on us

that is in fact the Domino Theory

which was in fact discredited in Vietnam

further discredited when the Chinese & Soviets went to war against each other by proxy,  in Cambodia

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

48 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the Soviets had extraordinary ability, the Soviets crushed the Third Reich, then conquered space

all China has really done is make smart phones for Apple, underwear for Walmart

they are not behaving like they are about to overrun the West

quite the opposite, they are retrenching back into a hermit kingdom surrounded by mortal enemies on all sides

The USSR did have success against the Wehrmacht but it was aided by the USA and those days are long gone. Russia is close to a failed state at this stage, a model nobody wishes to copy.

China does a lot more than make plastic tat for Walmart. From a standing start a few decades ago, it now challenges the West, not just America, in many leading technologies including semiconductors, quantum computing, bioengineering and satellites to name but a few. As I noted above, take a look at the original articles in scientific and medical journals these days and count the authors from China. Examine the trajectory of Chinese progress and you will see no peer in human history. Even at the height of the space race, Russia was way behind the US in most other areas and never offered a a serious economic challenge to the West. 
 

 

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The USSR did have success against the Wehrmacht but it was aided by the USA and those days are long gone. Russia is close to a failed state at this stage, a model nobody wishes to copy.

China does a lot more than make plastic tat for Walmart. From a standing start a few decades ago, it now challenges the West, not just America, in many leading technologies including semiconductors, quantum computing, bioengineering and satellites to name but a few. As I noted above, take a look at the original articles in scientific and medical journals these days and count the authors from China. Examine the trajectory of Chinese progress and you will see no peer in human history. Even at the height of the space race, Russia was way behind the US in most other areas and never offered a a serious economic challenge to the West.

in terms of the strategic situation

China has the same vital interest as America, even more intensely

China is totally dependent on resources delivered by sea and associated global trade

China needs Freedom of Navigation much more than America does, America has its own oil available

so the Chinese cannot actually initiate a global confrontation without paying a terrible price

Russia on the other hand,

has the interior lines of communication, unlimited resources, and the Northern Sea Route

so Russia doesn't need Freedom of Navigation, thus Russia could hunker down and fight a long war

China can't afford a war, while war is actually to the advantage of the Kremlin

just another reason the Russians remain the primary threat

Bonaparte knows

Edited March 4, 2023 by Dougie93

[SpankyMcFarland]

55 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That was 1990s Russia. They actually bounced back to quite a great extent in the 2000s.

This Ukraine thing has been a huge setback for them, but I still think they're way ahead of where they were in the '90s.

There were rumours that their soldiers were unpaid and just walking of the bases, and their military hardware was being sold off by the ones who stayed. 

The US managed to by Migs in 1997: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/how-america-bought-russian-mig-29-fighter-jets-33121

I don't think that they'll be buying Su-24s any time soon. 

Nobody looks to Russia, a country of drunks and gangsters, as a model these days. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

in terms of the strategic situation

China has the same vital interest as America, even more intensely

China is totally dependent on resources delivered by sea and associated global trade

China needs Freedom of Navigation much more than America does, America has its own oil available

so the Chinese cannot actually initiate a global confrontation without paying a terrible price

Russia on the other hand, has the internal line of communication, unlimited resources, and the Northern Sea Route

so Russia doesn't need Freedom of Navigation, thus Russia could hunker down and fight a long war

China can't afford a war, while war is actually to the advantage of the Kremlin

just another reason the Russians remain the primary threat

That’s right now but not for the future. Russia is imploding and will be lucky if it avoids becoming a Chinese satellite. Across the world, China is supporting development and lending money to create dependent relationships. India, for example, already faces China’s partners east and west as well as north. 

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

That’s right now but not for the future. Russia is imploding and will be lucky if it avoids becoming a Chinese satellite. Across the world, China is supporting development and lending money to create dependent relationships. India, for example, already faces China’s partners east and west as well as north. 

Russia will not become a Chinese sattelite

again, you are falling for the Domino Theory like this is 1954

China & Russia are not allies

China & Russia are mortal enemies

China poses the greatest threat to Russia, China wants Siberia back

then China's second greatest threat, is a rising India to the south

third greatest threat is Japan, South Korea & ASEAN, which are forming allainces with India

America is actually way down on China's list of threats

China has got big problems, both internally, and surrounding them on all frontiers

China is in fact contained by default, inherent to their geography, and historical adversaries

[SpankyMcFarland]

26 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

in terms of the strategic situation

China has the same vital interest as America, even more intensely

China is totally dependent on resources delivered by sea and associated global trade

China needs Freedom of Navigation much more than America does, America has its own oil available

so the Chinese cannot actually initiate a global confrontation without paying a terrible price

Russia on the other hand,

has the interior lines of communication, unlimited resources, and the Northern Sea Route

so Russia doesn't need Freedom of Navigation, thus Russia could hunker down and fight a long war

China can't afford a war, while war is actually to the advantage of the Kremlin

just another reason the Russians remain the primary threat

Bonaparte knows

 

 

Here’s a quote attributed to the same man:

Quote

“Let China Sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world” 

 
China’s threat is far beyond geography or current military strength. It’s about to become the largest economy in the world, something the USSR could never dream of, and will go from there as standards of living increase. Unfortunately, it is the Koreas combined, an economic miracle run by a vicious totalitarian elite bent on crushing dissent at home and abroad. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Dougie93]

Just now, SpankyMcFarland said:

Here’s a quote attributed to the same man:

but she hasn't actually awaken

she is still crippled by the totalitarian rule of lunatic Chairman Mao from beyond the grave

again, China is the classic Communist Potemkin Village

it's a facade, but once you get behind the curtain, China is a basket case

[Dougie93]

6 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Here’s a quote attributed to the same man:

Russia is actually much more dangerous, because Russia has thrown off Internationalist Communism

as now we are facing a nationalist Russia

nationalism being the vastly more motivating ideology

Russians will actually kill & die for the national colours

Russians will actually hunker down for a long war

like the Soviets never would for the Hammer & Sickle

[SpankyMcFarland]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

but she hasn't actually awaken

she is still crippled by the totalitarian rule of lunatic Chairman Mao from beyond the grave

again, China is the classic Communist Potemkin Village

it's a facade, but once you get behind the curtain, China is a basket case

Are the cities of China mirages? Do the CEOs of Tesla and Apple curry favour with the CCP for no reason at all? Are TikTok and Huawei paper tigers? China is no basket case - it is spectacularly successful despite the murderous regime in charge - and unless it reforms it will be a non-trivial problem for every one of us very soon. 

[Dougie93]

Just now, SpankyMcFarland said:

Are the cities of China mirages?

you mean the entire cities which are larger than Toronto, where nobody actually lives ?

the ghost cities of China are of course the canary in the coalmine pointing to the effects of lunatic central planning

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

 Are TikTok and Huawei paper tigers?

I don't view them as armies about to overrun us

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

you mean the entire cities which are larger than Toronto, where nobody actually lives ?

the ghost cities of China are of course the canary in the coalmine pointing to the effects of lunatic central planning

C’mon now, are the skylines of Shanghai or Beijing holograms? Like many successful countries that lose the run of themselves, China has a real estate problem. That’s a symptom of how successful it’s capitalists have been. 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

 it is spectacularly successful despite the murderous regime in charge

no, it was briefly successful when the regime was liberalized

but now that it is degenerating back into a murderous totalitarian regime

all the gains of liberalization are being thrown away

[SpankyMcFarland]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

I don't view them as armies about to overrun us

 

In that case you take a rather limited view of the changing nature of warfare. 

[Dougie93]

Just now, SpankyMcFarland said:

C’mon now, are the skylines of Shanghai or Beijing holograms? Like many successful countries that lose the run of themselves, China has a real estate problem. That’s a symptom of how successful it’s capitalists have been. 

they have a lot of people living in big cities

so does Brazil, so does Nigeria, so does Egypt, whoop dee doo

in terms of the real estate problem ?

the problem is that there are three homes for every buyer, thus it is the most massive real estate bubble in history

[SpankyMcFarland]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

no, it was briefly successful when the regime was liberalized

but now that it is degenerating back into a murderous totalitarian regime

all the gains of liberalization are being thrown away

There’s no question Xi is damaging China’s economy with his absurd Marxist ideology but that economy is incredibly resilient. China has a critical mass of the worlds best entrepreneurs. They can take a lot of oppression before they stop making money. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

they have a lot of people living in big cities

so does Brazil, so does Nigeria, so does Egypt, whoop dee doo

in terms of the real estate problem ?

the problem is that there are three homes for every buyer, thus it is the most massive real estate bubble in history

Ah, you’re acting the eejit now. That’s just wishful thinking. Show me the Nigerian equivalent of Huawei. 

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

In that case you take a rather limited view of the changing nature of warfare. 

I simply take the view

that you are falling for classic 1950's era Cold War hysteria about the Communists being ten feet tall

and the associated Domino Theory

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Ah, you’re acting the eejit now. That’s just wishful thinking. Show me the Nigerian equivalent of Huawei. 

I simply think that Hauwei and the like, are parasitic

they are totally dependent on the West to prosper

the Chinese cannot afford to kill the Western host which is propping the CCP up

nor actually go to war with the host on any front

thus they are contained by default, at the geostrategic level

[Dougie93]

6 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

There’s no question Xi is damaging China’s economy with his absurd Marxist ideology but that economy is incredibly resilient. China has a critical mass of the worlds best entrepreneurs. They can take a lot of oppression before they stop making money. 

the economy is resilient at the provincial levels through grey & black markets

it's not resilient as an Asian Tiger which projects power globally

[Dougie93]

8 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Ah, you’re acting the eejit now.

when I see the Domino Theory, I simply point it out, no more, no less