Deluge Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Just now, robosmith said: How would YOU know? Because the rest of the major networks swing left, and that instantly makes them worse than Tucker, or Fox, for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 9 minutes ago, Deluge said: Because the rest of the major networks swing left, and that instantly makes them worse than Tucker, or Fox, for that matter. Thanks for admitting your reliance on partisan hackery for YOUR "analysis." 👏 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Thanks for admitting your reliance on partisan hackery for YOUR "analysis." 👏 Your receptacle for bullshit is bottomless. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Murdoch and everyone at FOX knew the fraud allegations were bogus but chose to support them anyway. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: Murdoch and everyone at FOX knew the fraud allegations were bogus but chose to support them anyway. This shuts the door on the question of FOX as a legitimate journalistic organization. They simply don't care. And you have people on this thread who still prefer them because they "lean right" with their lying... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: This shuts the door on the question of FOX as a legitimate journalistic organization. They simply don't care. And you have people on this thread who still prefer them because they "lean right" with their lying... Don't understand how up to this point, nobody on the right didn't think, or maybe they could not due to the monopoly, to create a television competing with Fox. The left splits its public between CNN and MSNBC, then others: ABC News, CBS News, Etc. The Right is only Fox News in my view on the TV. You probably will find people that are somewhat reasonable, but tune in there because no other choice. Maybe they don't use the internet, who knows. ---> MIchael, maybe we can start a business in America as a reasonable right-wing channel. 😎 Edited February 28 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: This shuts the door on the question of FOX as a legitimate journalistic organization. They simply don't care. And you have people on this thread who still prefer them because they "lean right" with their lying... That was the point. They feared losing viewers to FURTHER right wing outlets, so they completely abandoned legitimate news reporting to give their viewers WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR. Not that there was much to abandon..... Edited February 28 by robosmith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 48 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: This shuts the door on the question of FOX as a legitimate journalistic organization. They simply don't care. And you have people on this thread who still prefer them because they "lean right" with their lying... Then what you're saying is that this shuts the door on ALL news outlets because they simply don't care. Are you sure you want to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 (edited) 19 minutes ago, robosmith said: That was the point. They feared losing viewers to FURTHER right wing outlets, so they completely abandoned legitimate news reporting to give their viewers WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR. No that there was much to abandon..... They adapted to survive in a way is what you are saying. Edited February 28 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 29 minutes ago, Contrarian said: Don't understand how up to this point, nobody on the right didn't think, or maybe they could not due to the monopoly, to create a television competing with Fox. The left splits its public between CNN and MSNBC, then others: ABC News, CBS News, Etc. The Right is only Fox News in my view on the TV. You probably will find people that are somewhat reasonable, but tune in there because no other choice. Maybe they don't use the internet, who knows. ---> MIchael, maybe we can start a business in America as a reasonable right-wing channel. 😎 The left can split its public because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS are all left too. the only thing that is splitting is the viewership, but they're all still getting the same message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, Deluge said: Then what you're saying is that this shuts the door on ALL news outlets because they simply don't care. Are you sure you want to do that? I get that you twist everything into something else. So here we have documented evidence FROM FOX that they all believed the election fraud story was fake, but they realized that they had to keep promoting what they knew were lies, or else it would cost them money. Murdoch tried to say that only a few of his employees did that, but under questioning he agreed that, yeah, it was all of his reporters. Their senior people went so far as to try to fire one reporter for reporting truthfully on Twitter that there was no proof of election fraud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 2 minutes ago, Deluge said: The left can split its public because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS are all left too. the only thing that is splitting is the viewership, but they're all still getting the same message. On the radio waves, the right-wing has a monopoly so it balances it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 34 minutes ago, Contrarian said: The left splits its public between CNN and MSNBC, then others: ABC News, CBS News, Etc. Riiiight "the left" CBS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 4 minutes ago, Deluge said: The left can split its public because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS are all left too. the only thing that is splitting is the viewership, but they're all still getting the same message. TRUTHFULLY REPORTING THE FACT THAT THE ELECTION WAS NOT STOLEN DOES NOT MAKE YOU LEFT, IT MAKES YOU HONEST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Riiiight "the left" CBS... Yes, they do lean left: https://www.allsides.com/news-source/cbs-news-media-bias But the more important thing, Circus Trump went after Murdoch“There was so much Voter Fraud & Irregularities in the 2020 Presidential Election that it amazes me how weak and ineffective Fox News is at portraying itself in the lawsuit against them,” Mr Trump wrote on Tuesday. “They look too scared and frightened to reveal the massive amounts of voter fraud & Irregularities already found, and it would actually help them in the lawsuit. Instead Fox News wants to silence its anchors and reporters, the reason so many of their viewers fled. The Election was that of a Third World Country!” 😄 😄 😄 Edited February 28 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Contrarian said: Yes, they do lean left: https://www.allsides.com/news-source/cbs-news-media-bias But the more important thing, Trump went after Murdoch“There was so much Voter Fraud & Irregularities in the 2020 Presidential Election that it amazes me how weak and ineffective Fox News is at portraying itself in the lawsuit against them,” Mr Trump wrote on Tuesday. “They look too scared and frightened to reveal the massive amounts of voter fraud & Irregularities already found, and it would actually help them in the lawsuit. Instead Fox News wants to silence its anchors and reporters, the reason so many of their viewers fled. The Election was that of a Third World Country!” 😄 😄 😄 Actually, all sides is run by a republican, just checked, so if they put CBS News as left, they might be centrist. Edited February 28 by Contrarian clarified detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Just now, Contrarian said: Actually, all sides is run by a republican, just checked, so it might be centrist after all, don't watch that much TV. OAN was started by CNN’s parent company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rebound said: OAN was started by CNN’s parent company. That's not what it says, online, it says Herring Networks. Did not even hear about OAN. What is this have to do with all sides BIAS chart? They are Fox News competition? I think you might have confused my initial message, that's my view. Edited February 28 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Contrarian said: On the radio waves, the right-wing has a monopoly so it balances it out. Nope. Hollywood is exclusively left so we're back to an imbalance. Edited February 28 by Deluge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Rebound said: TRUTHFULLY REPORTING THE FACT THAT THE ELECTION WAS NOT STOLEN DOES NOT MAKE YOU LEFT, IT MAKES YOU HONEST. That whole election was suspicious as hell, and there's nothing you folks can say to change that. The Left dominates television news. Actually, let's not kid ourselves; the Left dominates all of media and entertainment, except for AM radio. Edited February 28 by Deluge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 24 minutes ago, Contrarian said: They adapted to survive in a way is what you are saying. No, but since you asked, I would say they adapted to maintain their near monopoly status as THE right wing news source. Market share won over integrity and journalistic ethical standards, as always at Fox. Only difference now is there is some minor competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Rebound said: TRUTHFULLY REPORTING THE FACT THAT THE ELECTION WAS NOT STOLEN DOES NOT MAKE YOU LEFT, IT MAKES YOU HONEST. This is why I am saying, there is a market in the US for a reasonable right-wing channel. The first rule that I would put: "No election deniers". Then I would invite McConnell or Paul Ryan as my first guest to tell stories about Trump for rating. Edited February 28 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 24 minutes ago, Deluge said: The left can split its public because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS are all left too. the only thing that is splitting is the viewership, but they're all still getting the same message. You are delusional if you believe that MSNBC and OTA broadcast news carry "the same message." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, robosmith said: You are delusional if you believe that MSNBC and OTA broadcast news carry "the same message." Show me otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 18 minutes ago, Contrarian said: That's not what it says, online, it says Herring Networks. Did not even hear about OAN. What is this have to do with all sides BIAS chart? They are Fox News competition? I think you might have confused my initial message, that's my view. Yes, the competition that Fox was worried about included Newsmax and OANN. Both small bit players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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