robosmith Posted February 28, 2023 Author Report Posted February 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Deluge said: Because the rest of the major networks swing left, and that instantly makes them worse than Tucker, or Fox, for that matter. Thanks for admitting your reliance on partisan hackery for YOUR "analysis." ? 3 Quote
Deluge Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Thanks for admitting your reliance on partisan hackery for YOUR "analysis." ? Your receptacle for bullshit is bottomless. lol Quote
Aristides Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 Murdoch and everyone at FOX knew the fraud allegations were bogus but chose to support them anyway. 1 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: Murdoch and everyone at FOX knew the fraud allegations were bogus but chose to support them anyway. This shuts the door on the question of FOX as a legitimate journalistic organization. They simply don't care. And you have people on this thread who still prefer them because they "lean right" with their lying... 1 1 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
robosmith Posted February 28, 2023 Author Report Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: This shuts the door on the question of FOX as a legitimate journalistic organization. They simply don't care. And you have people on this thread who still prefer them because they "lean right" with their lying... That was the point. They feared losing viewers to FURTHER right wing outlets, so they completely abandoned legitimate news reporting to give their viewers WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR. Not that there was much to abandon..... Edited February 28, 2023 by robosmith 1 Quote
Deluge Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: This shuts the door on the question of FOX as a legitimate journalistic organization. They simply don't care. And you have people on this thread who still prefer them because they "lean right" with their lying... Then what you're saying is that this shuts the door on ALL news outlets because they simply don't care. Are you sure you want to do that? Quote
Deluge Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, Contrarian said: Don't understand how up to this point, nobody on the right didn't think, or maybe they could not due to the monopoly, to create a television competing with Fox. The left splits its public between CNN and MSNBC, then others: ABC News, CBS News, Etc. The Right is only Fox News in my view on the TV. You probably will find people that are somewhat reasonable, but tune in there because no other choice. Maybe they don't use the internet, who knows. ---> MIchael, maybe we can start a business in America as a reasonable right-wing channel. ? The left can split its public because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS are all left too. the only thing that is splitting is the viewership, but they're all still getting the same message. Quote
Rebound Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Deluge said: Then what you're saying is that this shuts the door on ALL news outlets because they simply don't care. Are you sure you want to do that? I get that you twist everything into something else. So here we have documented evidence FROM FOX that they all believed the election fraud story was fake, but they realized that they had to keep promoting what they knew were lies, or else it would cost them money. Murdoch tried to say that only a few of his employees did that, but under questioning he agreed that, yeah, it was all of his reporters. Their senior people went so far as to try to fire one reporter for reporting truthfully on Twitter that there was no proof of election fraud. 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Michael Hardner Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 34 minutes ago, Contrarian said: The left splits its public between CNN and MSNBC, then others: ABC News, CBS News, Etc. Riiiight "the left" CBS... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Rebound Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Deluge said: The left can split its public because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS are all left too. the only thing that is splitting is the viewership, but they're all still getting the same message. TRUTHFULLY REPORTING THE FACT THAT THE ELECTION WAS NOT STOLEN DOES NOT MAKE YOU LEFT, IT MAKES YOU HONEST. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Rebound Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 Just now, Contrarian said: Actually, all sides is run by a republican, just checked, so it might be centrist after all, don't watch that much TV. OAN was started by CNN’s parent company. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Deluge Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Contrarian said: On the radio waves, the right-wing has a monopoly so it balances it out. Nope. Hollywood is exclusively left so we're back to an imbalance. Edited February 28, 2023 by Deluge Quote
Deluge Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Rebound said: TRUTHFULLY REPORTING THE FACT THAT THE ELECTION WAS NOT STOLEN DOES NOT MAKE YOU LEFT, IT MAKES YOU HONEST. That whole election was suspicious as hell, and there's nothing you folks can say to change that. The Left dominates television news. Actually, let's not kid ourselves; the Left dominates all of media and entertainment, except for AM radio. Edited February 28, 2023 by Deluge Quote
robosmith Posted February 28, 2023 Author Report Posted February 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, Contrarian said: They adapted to survive in a way is what you are saying. No, but since you asked, I would say they adapted to maintain their near monopoly status as THE right wing news source. Market share won over integrity and journalistic ethical standards, as always at Fox. Only difference now is there is some minor competition. Quote
robosmith Posted February 28, 2023 Author Report Posted February 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, Deluge said: The left can split its public because CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS are all left too. the only thing that is splitting is the viewership, but they're all still getting the same message. You are delusional if you believe that MSNBC and OTA broadcast news carry "the same message." Quote
Deluge Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, robosmith said: You are delusional if you believe that MSNBC and OTA broadcast news carry "the same message." Show me otherwise. Quote
robosmith Posted February 28, 2023 Author Report Posted February 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, Contrarian said: That's not what it says, online, it says Herring Networks. Did not even hear about OAN. What is this have to do with all sides BIAS chart? They are Fox News competition? I think you might have confused my initial message, that's my view. Yes, the competition that Fox was worried about included Newsmax and OANN. Both small bit players. Quote
robosmith Posted February 28, 2023 Author Report Posted February 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Deluge said: Show me otherwise. You made the claim they carry "the same message," so the burden is on you to prove that. Once you post evidence, I will tear it apart. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 28, 2023 Report Posted February 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, Contrarian said: Yes, they do lean left: I would say that unless someone is squarely on the side of the social democrat then they do NOT "lean left". Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
ironstone Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Rebound said: Here is your problem: Wikipedia posts FACT. That’s why you hate it! They won’t pimp stupid conspiracy theories If you post something which you cannot backup with a reliable source, it gets deleted. Sometimes, it will say “citation needed,” if it seems true but there’s no reference. Maybe the references will be wrong, but at least there’s a citation you can reference. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory Wikipedia is pretty good for a lot of subjects but I'll pass when it comes to politics. If you watched the link I provided, you will see that one of the founders agrees with me. It also showed how many of the "editors" identify as proud socialists. Conservatives are far more likely to be edited out on Wikipedia. That is a FACT. 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
robosmith Posted March 1, 2023 Author Report Posted March 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, ironstone said: Wikipedia is pretty good for a lot of subjects but I'll pass when it comes to politics. If you watched the link I provided, you will see that one of the founders agrees with me. It also showed how many of the "editors" identify as proud socialists. Conservatives are far more likely to be edited out on Wikipedia. That is a FACT. "More likely" does not mean that any one specific allegation is wrong. It could be that conservative posters on Wiki are "more likely" to abuse the platform by posting bullshit. I would think that if the post is solidly referenced, it would be "more likely" to stand. Quote
Rebound Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 2 hours ago, ironstone said: Wikipedia is pretty good for a lot of subjects but I'll pass when it comes to politics. If you watched the link I provided, you will see that one of the founders agrees with me. It also showed how many of the "editors" identify as proud socialists. Conservatives are far more likely to be edited out on Wikipedia. That is a FACT. You may be right. I’d like to see you point out an example, but politics can be nearly impossible to write about in a manner so neutral as to meet everyone’s satisfaction. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
reason10 Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 13 hours ago, Rebound said: I think that Fox News losing $1.6 billion of its $4 billion cash reserve will teach them a lesson about deliberately lying to their viewers and they damage the cause to their targets. Produce a link to prove that ( a CREDIBLE LINK, not some bullshit from THE VIEW) or admit you are a LIAR. Quote
robosmith Posted March 1, 2023 Author Report Posted March 1, 2023 1 hour ago, reason10 said: Produce a link to prove that ( a CREDIBLE LINK, not some bullshit from THE VIEW) or admit you are a LIAR. You first. YOU KEEP LYING about "credible link" and "the View." Must be cause you're too stupid to make a LEGITIMATE rebuttal. 2 Quote
reason10 Posted March 1, 2023 Report Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, robosmith said: You first. YOU KEEP LYING about "credible link" and "the View." Must be cause you're too stupid to make a LEGITIMATE rebuttal. You uttered the lie about Fox. Prove it or admit you are a LIAR. That is the rebuttal. PROVE IT OR ADMIT YOU ARE A LIAR. Edited March 1, 2023 by reason10 Quote
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