Toronto Mayor to Resign over Workplace Affair

[Boges]

He came out Friday night and said he had an inappropriate relationship with a subordinate and that he'll step down. He has yet to do so. 

It looks like the Toronto Star was about to publish revelations about the affair so he had to beat them to the punch. 

John Tory was easily re-elected in October. And has comfortably retained 3 healthy mandates since the chaos of Rob Ford, the current Premiere's late brother. 

I personally like Tory, I thought he got a raw deal as leader of the Ontario PCs in 2007. I think his political plight is a good litmus test on where you are on the political spectrum. People on both the Right and the Left hate him, but he continued to easily get elected. 

But his dick did him in. 

These type of workplace relationships should not be condoned or tolerated. As the mayor, he had the power in the situation. 

I am sad to see him go, I hope a Socialist doesn't take his place. Perhaps someone for the Ford Political Empire can swoop in, that would be crazy. 

Edited February 13, 2023 by Boges

[SpankyMcFarland]

He should stay on long enough to make the transition as smooth as possible. There’s no need for him to leave this week. 

[Boges]

59 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

He should stay on long enough to make the transition as smooth as possible. There’s no need for him to leave this week. 

Apparently he's staying until he can get his budget passed. 

DoFo gave the Toronto Mayor "Strong Mayor" powers. Apparently an interim Mayor won't have such powers. 

[ExFlyer]

Infidelity does not make him a bad mayor.

Who knows what personal issues led to the affair.

He has proven to be a good mayor and should be able to carry on. No one is perfect and everyone does things they are not proud of but, it does not in any way mean they cannot do their job.

No one, let alone politicians are puritans. Those that condemn him should look in the mirror and see if a puritan is looking back..

Edited February 16, 2023 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

On 2/16/2023 at 7:37 AM, ExFlyer said:

He has proven to be a good mayor and should be able to carry on. No one is perfect and everyone does things they are not proud of but, it does not in any way mean they cannot do their job.

This is true of course.  But - politicians must be held to a higher moral code by the nature of their work. To a degree it's nonsense - just because he cheats on his wife in a moment of weakness doesn't mean he's scamming money from the tax payer or selling influence.  And just because he's not cheating doesn't mean he isn't

But it's the nature of things. A lapse in judgement that large, regardless of how understandable it might be as a human being, unfortunately does make him unfit to continue in that position and he did the right thing and resigned

On the plus side, he will go down in history as having been forced out of office because he was still able to talk younger women into bed at age 68. So there's that.

[herbie]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

This is true of course.  But - politicians must be held to a higher moral code by the nature of their work. To a degree it's nonsense - just because he cheats on his wife in a moment of weakness doesn't mean he's scamming money from the tax payer or selling influence.  And just because he's not cheating doesn't mean he isn't

True, it's nonsense puritanical attitude that's crept north of the border. Outraged by a politician that got a blowjob, accepting of a con man that led a coup...

[CdnFox]

There's nothing puritanical about it - it shows a serious lapse in judgement.  If nothing else it violates the code of ethics he was to uphold.

The theory is that a person with that poor judgement cannot be trusted with the public helm.  And it CERTAINLY isn't an 'american' idea, until recently Canadian politicians have stepped down for far less. "Bingogate" in bc comes to mind as an extreme example. 

As to "Outraged by a politician that got a blowjob, accepting of a con man that led a coup... ",  well....   hopefully i don't need to explain why it's the same thing.  Neither are crimes of office, both are indicators the person is unfit to be in office.

[ExFlyer]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

This is true of course.  But - politicians must be held to a higher moral code by the nature of their work. To a degree it's nonsense - just because he cheats on his wife in a moment of weakness doesn't mean he's scamming money from the tax payer or selling influence.  And just because he's not cheating doesn't mean he isn't

But it's the nature of things. A lapse in judgement that large, regardless of how understandable it might be as a human being, unfortunately does make him unfit to continue in that position and he did the right thing and resigned

On the plus side, he will go down in history as having been forced out of office because he was still able to talk younger women into bed at age 68. So there's that.

If that was so, we would not have any politicians LOL

 

For sure, that is a plus side

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

If that was so, we would not have any politicians LOL

You make a compelling case

11 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

 

For sure, that is a plus side

Exactly - the correct answer isn't whether or not HE should quit - it's that they ALL should ?

Well there was a day when that happened a lot more but sadly these days the politicians who break the rules tend to say "i take full responsibility", give everyone the middle finger, and then just to back to whatever scams they feel like without condequence

[TreeBeard]

On 2/14/2023 at 9:55 AM, Boges said:

Apparently he's staying until he can get his budget passed. 

DoFo gave the Toronto Mayor "Strong Mayor" powers. Apparently an interim Mayor won't have such powers. 

That doesn’t sound very democratic. 

[CdnFox]

On 2/22/2023 at 9:20 AM, TreeBeard said:

That doesn’t sound very democratic. 

It isn't.  This isn't a vote. He's voluntarily resigning. How is that a democratic thing? If you do something voluntarily why would others vote on it? When was the last time you saw someone take a binding vote in order to quit

He was democratically elected. He gets to decide when he's going to quit, same as everyone else.

[TreeBeard]

On 2/22/2023 at 9:20 AM, TreeBeard said:

DoFo gave the Toronto Mayor "Strong Mayor" powers.

This is the part that is undemocratic @CdnFox.  

Edited February 27, 2023 by TreeBeard

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

This is the part that is undemocratic

Ahhh - apologies then, i misread your intent there. I thought it was a bit of an odd thing to say - i should have double checked that i read it right.

As to the CORRECT thing you were referencing (   ) it's still not a democratic issue. Ford was elected, and it is up to him to distribute powers and such to the lower gov'ts appropriately. Recall that the cities do not have their own standing in the Constitution, they derrive any authority they have from the provincial powers. Basically the provinces delegate their powers to the cities for those purposes. So the person in charge of that was democratically elected and that's who would be held to account by the voters.

[TreeBeard]

36 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Ahhh - apologies then, i misread your intent there. I thought it was a bit of an odd thing to say - i should have double checked that i read it right.

As to the CORRECT thing you were referencing (   ) it's still not a democratic issue. Ford was elected, and it is up to him to distribute powers and such to the lower gov'ts appropriately. Recall that the cities do not have their own standing in the Constitution, they derrive any authority they have from the provincial powers. Basically the provinces delegate their powers to the cities for those purposes. So the person in charge of that was democratically elected and that's who would be held to account by the voters.

I never said the province couldn’t do what they did.  I said that it seems undemocratic to have a mayor with superpowers.  Like a city dictatorship.   I would prefer to live in a city that is governed democratically, as I think it’s a superior system. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

 I said that it seems undemocratic to have a mayor with superpowers.  

The mayor derives his powers from the elected provincial gov't. So it's entirely democratic for the province to have given the mayor 'superpowers' or whatever power level they wish. Those are provincial powers they're passing on.

3 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

  I would prefer to live in a city that is governed democratically, as I think it’s a superior system. 

The major is still elected. And i guarantee you would not care to live in a city run by democracy. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.  We use democratic representation models, or 'constitutional democracies' to prevent the tyranny of the majority.

The new mayor will be elected in a democratic fashion to represent the people in due course, and until the the duly elected provincial powers will do their job with regards to the office as well.  I'm not seeing the problem from a 'democracy' point of view.

[Perspektiv]

On 2/20/2023 at 12:39 PM, CdnFox said:

he was still able to talk younger women into bed at age 68.

Hugh Heffner did it until his death. When you're incredibly powerful and rich, this isn't a feat.

Its like a woman who is super model beautiful bragging about getting men to buy her stuff all the time.

Jaw dropping is a woman that gorgeous who can't get men, no matter how hard they try.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Hugh Heffner did it until his death.

Well that's a great way to go

 

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

When you're incredibly powerful and rich, this isn't a feat. Its like a woman who is super model beautiful bragging about getting men to buy her stuff all the time.

I don't know that tory is that rich, or that powerful

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Jaw dropping is a woman that gorgeous who can't get men, no matter how hard they try.

True. Although presumably they haven't discovered the power that booze can have over men.

[Moonbox]

Tory's rich AF.