Why are democrats lying about officers being killed on January 6th?

[WestCanMan]

19 hours ago, Aristides said:

You keep making excuses for Jan 6 and maintain the rioters were somehow victims. Trump knew exactly what he was doing.d

Your pictures mean nothing without context and AR-15's are not fully automatic.

What excuse did I ever make for Jan 6th? Can you point to the time where I said "It was ok to tear down the barricades, assault cops, and force entry into the capitol buildings"? No, of course not, so you're lying again as usual. 

Trump didn't call for violence period, stop lying.

The Jan 6th rioters are "victims" of a system where they committed lesser offences than people who were never criminally charged, and they're going to jail for years. 

My pictures clearly prove that "You're a dolt" and FYI the reason no one knows exactly what weapons BLM used to overrun the police precinct is because no one was charged criminally. There wasn't even an investigation. BLM even killed a 16 yr old black kid - no charges laid against anyone. 

Can you tell the difference between an AR-15 and an M-16 when it's coming at you? Of course not, I doubt if there's anyone on earth who can from more than 10 feet. And the criminals in that photo aren't the only ones involved in BLM's crimes in Seattle.

Honest to God, you have the brains of a 6 yr old, I guess that's why you always have to lie to try to make your point.  

[West]

22 minutes ago, Rebound said:

No. What “kicked off” the rioting was the sitting President of the United States telling his supporters, without evidence, that the election had been “stolen,” and that his followers needed to march to the US Capitol to STOP THE STEAL.  They marched to the Capitol peacefully and then erupted in violence.  
 

This thing was not “a few dozen people.”  We all saw the videos.  How could it be that a few dozen people caused 150 police officers to be hospitalized, leading to five officer deaths and several permanent disabilities?  36 or 48 people put 150 in the hospital?  No, you are lying. 
 

Hundreds have been criminally charged and many have been convicted, although America’s Most Wanted remains at large. 

No what kicked off the allegations of a rigged election was far left democrats changing election processes without a consult and then suspicious activities at polling stations which were brought forward in SWORN AFFIDAVITS. 

If you are so sure it's all a giant lie, why have NO charges been laid on people for filing false affidavits???

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, West said:

No what kicked off the allegations of a rigged election was far left democrats changing election processes without a consult and then suspicious activities at polling stations which were brought forward in SWORN AFFIDAVITS. 

If you are so sure it's all a giant lie, why have NO charges been laid on people for filing false affidavits???

Are charges a good indicator of whether or not a crime actually took place?

 

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Do yourself a favour, stop the beer and stop lying to yourself. You were there and you had no idea in my first interactions here who the FSB was? or was that you pretending? ? or not knowning basic concepts about Geo-politics in Europe? 

All you internet tough guys that run your mouth when you are confronted of who you really are, all of you pull this card out: "I have served my country" "I have been this" "I have done this". 

Right. The contribution of one's to each country is the mirror, the rest are just fairy tales that you tell people with a lower IQ to believe you. 

I understand the Internet makes us get lost in fantasies at times, and I am raised in Eastern Europe, we speak plainly when we smell games like this, especially when it pertains to "service." Is a personal allergy of mine. 

---> even if you had, have some humility and don't use that card. You did it for your country, not so you can show off on internet forums. Show me through your knowledge that you know what you are talking about, I don't need credentials. 

I see.

I have practical experience with such things, and you don't. So my experience means nothing.

OK...

[Infidel Dog]

January 6th wasn't an insurrection. It was Fed-surrection.

A fed perpetrated "

breach team set up a booby trap by pushing back the police, then hauling away the “restricted area” signage, the chain fencing, and the metal barricades—all while tens of thousands were still at the Trump rally. Without police present or “do not enter” signs prominently visible, people leaving Trump’s speech and arriving at the Capitol entrance would have no idea it was illegal to walk through the gate, or onto the lawn, or up to the Capitol steps. After all, this entire area is ordinarily open to the public.

Instead, they heard friendly music and saw the main walkway to the Capitol grounds wide open. These unwitting Trump supporters had no idea they had just crossed an invisible tripwire that would later subject them to federal prosecution for trespassing.

Moreover, the giant main component of Trump protesters would not arrive at this Capitol entrance until 50 minutes after the Breach Team opened up the walkway—Trump had 20 minutes left in his speech, and it took 30 minutes to walk to the Peace Monument. This giant component arrived at the entrance and saw hundreds of people already inside the Capitol grounds. They would no longer stage their protest back behind the fencing, because the Breach Team booby-trappers had already hauled most of it away before they got there. The giant component therefore walked all the way up to the Capitol building itself."

[West]

7 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Are charges a good indicator of whether or not a crime actually took place?

 

Those are the facts.. they brought forward legitimate concerns which were ignored and swept under the rug, even going as far as character assassination for bringing them forward. 

[West]

3 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

January 6th wasn't an insurrection. It was Fed-surrection.

A fed perpetrated "

breach team set up a booby trap by pushing back the police, then hauling away the “restricted area” signage, the chain fencing, and the metal barricades—all while tens of thousands were still at the Trump rally. Without police present or “do not enter” signs prominently visible, people leaving Trump’s speech and arriving at the Capitol entrance would have no idea it was illegal to walk through the gate, or onto the lawn, or up to the Capitol steps. After all, this entire area is ordinarily open to the public.

Instead, they heard friendly music and saw the main walkway to the Capitol grounds wide open. These unwitting Trump supporters had no idea they had just crossed an invisible tripwire that would later subject them to federal prosecution for trespassing.

Moreover, the giant main component of Trump protesters would not arrive at this Capitol entrance until 50 minutes after the Breach Team opened up the walkway—Trump had 20 minutes left in his speech, and it took 30 minutes to walk to the Peace Monument. This giant component arrived at the entrance and saw hundreds of people already inside the Capitol grounds. They would no longer stage their protest back behind the fencing, because the Breach Team booby-trappers had already hauled most of it away before they got there. The giant component therefore walked all the way up to the Capitol building itself."

Yup sounds like Pelosi staged an insurrection. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, West said:

Those are the facts.. they brought forward legitimate concerns which were ignored and swept under the rug, even going as far as character assassination for bringing them forward. 

So just when it suits, then?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

 

Instead, they heard friendly music and saw the main walkway to the Capitol grounds wide open. These unwitting Trump supporters had no idea they had just crossed an invisible tripwire that would later subject them to federal prosecution for trespassing.

 

Meanwhile, Steven Spielberg and Ridley Scott had organised an army of extras to simulate invading a completely different Capitol building, set up that morning on the other side of the Washington Monument.  The news feed containing the happy but concerned Trump supporters intent on giving Nancy Pelosi a stern talking to on the issue of democracy was intercepted by Anonymous and replaced with the fake insurrection.

Those poor, deluded Trump supporters.  More to be pitied than scolded, obviously.

Edited January 9, 2023 by bcsapper

[Rebound]

38 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Meanwhile, Steven Spielberg and Ridley Scott had organised an army of extras to simulate invading a completely different Capitol building, set up that morning on the other side of the Washington Monument.  The news feed containing the happy but concerned Trump supporters intent on giving Nancy Pelosi a stern talking to on the issue of democracy was intercepted by Anonymous and replaced with the fake insurrection.

Those poor, deluded Trump supporters.  More to be pitied than scolded, obviously.

And all of those reporters and the Capitol security cameras were somehow faked into airing the Steven Spielberg footage. 

Edited January 9, 2023 by Rebound

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Rebound said:

And all of those reporters and the Capitol security cameras were somehow faked into airing the Steven Spielberg footage. 

Smart cookies those Anonymous fellows...

[Novablue]

This thread is a waste of time responding to, magRat traitors have their twisted minds made up. They're wrong and they lie.

Bottom line: a bunch of lunatic traitors attacked the capital, threatening members, stealing documents, crapping in the halls etc etc . These lunatics are traitors and should have been met with live fire.  Level the whole lot of them, it's what they deserve for trying to overthrow the government. a Bobbitt was killed breaking through the wwindow. She got what she deserved .

[Novablue]

4 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

January 6th wasn't an insurrection. It was Fed-surrection.

A fed perpetrated "

breach team set up a booby trap by pushing back the police, then hauling away the “restricted area” signage, the chain fencing, and the metal barricades—all while tens of thousands were still at the Trump rally. Without police present or “do not enter” signs prominently visible, people leaving Trump’s speech and arriving at the Capitol entrance would have no idea it was illegal to walk through the gate, or onto the lawn, or up to the Capitol steps. After all, this entire area is ordinarily open to the public.

Instead, they heard friendly music and saw the main walkway to the Capitol grounds wide open. These unwitting Trump supporters had no idea they had just crossed an invisible tripwire that would later subject them to federal prosecution for trespassing.

Moreover, the giant main component of Trump protesters would not arrive at this Capitol entrance until 50 minutes after the Breach Team opened up the walkway—Trump had 20 minutes left in his speech, and it took 30 minutes to walk to the Peace Monument. This giant component arrived at the entrance and saw hundreds of people already inside the Capitol grounds. They would no longer stage their protest back behind the fencing, because the Breach Team booby-trappers had already hauled most of it away before they got there. The giant component therefore walked all the way up to the Capitol building itself."

Cripes You've got to be on bad drugs. Way the hell out there.

[robosmith]

On 1/7/2023 at 10:39 PM, robosmith said:

Because YOU KEEP REPEATING your FANTASIES as FACT with NO EVIDENCE.

Very little was "warped" about that election, but you believe a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR named Trump. That is DELUSIONAL.

 

On 1/7/2023 at 9:44 PM, Nationalist said:

You sure do get wound up when I bring up that warped election.

Sort o' like...ur desperate to have this garbolla believed by everyone.

Yet democrats can an have believed any number of elections were garbolla. 

Interesting...

 

On 1/8/2023 at 5:53 AM, Nationalist said:

No. I believe my eyes and my common sense. 

 

On 1/8/2023 at 12:57 PM, robosmith said:

Considering you were a witness to NONE of what HAPPENED, "your eyes" mean NOTHING.

 

On 1/8/2023 at 1:12 PM, Nationalist said:

Err...I actually watched the coverage that day, and most of us have seen the footage available. 

If I'm not mistaken, one of the things the new Republican congress is hoping to do, is have all the available video made public.

That should prove interesting. 

You watched "coverage" that proved the election was "warped"? LMAO

Did you also watch coverage of elections officials explaining WHY that was BULLSHIT?

Again, you're putting your FAITH in LIARS like Giuliani and Trump who MADE CLAIMS of voter fraud they COULD NOT PROVE IN COURT.

[robosmith]

8 hours ago, reason10 said:

You don't have the class to even come to Florida. You don't have the education.

You better clean up all the trailer trash that lives in FL before you stupid talk about being there taking "class."

FWIW, I've been visiting FL since I was an 8 yo with my parents. ANY citizen can go there.

I was even foolish enough to take a job and live there for 2 years.

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Trump didn't call for violence period, stop lying.

 

What did Trump mean when he said "if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore"?

WE KNOW what HIS MOB BELIEVED he MEANT.

You know, the mob about whom he said, "let them in, they're NOT here to HURT ME."

Who do you believe they were there to hurt (besides Mike Pence)? LMAO

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, West said:

No what kicked off the allegations of a rigged election was far left democrats changing election processes without a consult and then suspicious activities at polling stations which were brought forward in SWORN AFFIDAVITS. 

If you are so sure it's all a giant lie, why have NO charges been laid on people for filing false affidavits???

You do know ALL ^this "evidence" was rejected in 60+ court cases, don't you?

When you have NO EVIDENCE of FRAUD, ALL YOU HAVE is the certified VOTE COUNT.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

January 6th wasn't an insurrection. It was Fed-surrection.

A fed perpetrated "

breach team set up a booby trap by pushing back the police, then hauling away the “restricted area” signage, the chain fencing, and the metal barricades—all while tens of thousands were still at the Trump rally. Without police present or “do not enter” signs prominently visible, people leaving Trump’s speech and arriving at the Capitol entrance would have no idea it was illegal to walk through the gate, or onto the lawn, or up to the Capitol steps. After all, this entire area is ordinarily open to the public.

Instead, they heard friendly music and saw the main walkway to the Capitol grounds wide open. These unwitting Trump supporters had no idea they had just crossed an invisible tripwire that would later subject them to federal prosecution for trespassing.

Moreover, the giant main component of Trump protesters would not arrive at this Capitol entrance until 50 minutes after the Breach Team opened up the walkway—Trump had 20 minutes left in his speech, and it took 30 minutes to walk to the Peace Monument. This giant component arrived at the entrance and saw hundreds of people already inside the Capitol grounds. They would no longer stage their protest back behind the fencing, because the Breach Team booby-trappers had already hauled most of it away before they got there. The giant component therefore walked all the way up to the Capitol building itself."

Too bad you have POSTED NOTHING which substantiates ^THIS FANTASY.

[Nationalist]

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

 

 

 

 

You watched "coverage" that proved the election was "warped"? LMAO

Did you also watch coverage of elections officials explaining WHY that was BULLSHIT?

Again, you're putting your FAITH in LIARS like Giuliani and Trump who MADE CLAIMS of voter fraud they COULD NOT PROVE IN COURT.

Ya know...never before has there been an election that I could not accept. Not in Canada, England, France, Germany, or the USA. but the 2020 US presidential election? From the mailin ballots to the "water main break", I am unable to believe any of that Covid election was clean.

But we've all known for a while now, that the courts are unwilling to try the cases. They will not decide an election. So...we have tweedle-dee in office.

I believe today the new congress agreed on the rules, and will now move on to business. 

None of the pending investigations may result in criminal charges. But the world will be introduced to a ton of facts they have never heard before.

It'll be very interesting. 

[CrakHoBarbie]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

 I am unable to believe any of that Covid election was clean.

 

Because you've chosen to believe unsubstantiated rumors. Because it fits your id iotic bias. Your beliefs are all unsubstantiated garbage. What does that make you? Angry and stupid are no way to go through life boy.

[Nationalist]

Just now, CrakHoBarbie said:

Because you've chosen to believe unsubstantiated rumors. Because it fits your id iotic bias. Your beliefs are all unsubstantiated garbage. What does that make you? Angry and stupid are no way to go through life boy.

No. Because I know what I watched happen.

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya know...never before has there been an election that I could not accept. Not in Canada, England, France, Germany, or the USA. but the 2020 US presidential election? From the mailin ballots to the "water main break", I am unable to believe any of that Covid election was clean.

So you heard ALLEGATIONS, but MISSED the EXPLANATIONS by election OFFICIALS.

Mail in ballots have been routine in many states for YEARS.

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

But we've all known for a while now, that the courts are unwilling to try the cases. They will not decide an election. So...we have tweedle-dee in office.

They were unwilling because the "evidence" was BULLSHIT, which Giuliani ADMITTED to the AZ Republican Speaker of the House Rusty Bowers.

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I believe today the new congress agreed on the rules, and will now move on to business. 

None of the pending investigations may result in criminal charges. But the world will be introduced to a ton of facts they have never heard before.

It'll be very interesting. 

You've already admitted you don't care about the facts.

[CrakHoBarbie]

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

They will not decide an election. 

Because the voters decide elections dimwit. By God, you are just a profoundly stupid person.

[CrakHoBarbie]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No. Because I know what I watched happen.

No. You've made assumptions that fit your bias... That's all. And you're too stupid or stubborn or both to recognize that.

Edited January 9, 2023 by CrakHoBarbie

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, Hodad said:

Oh, sorry, I forgot. You live in a fantasy world and simply make up straw men, because straw arguments are the only thing you are fit to debate.?

You don't get to just say "straw man argument" without pointing to one.

Everything I said was accurate. Leftards think that M Brown was a gentle giant who should never have been shot in a million years. That's you in a nutshell.

All of a sudden, for one glorious day (when it was convenient), police lives mattered to you. You're such a (temporarily) great guy.

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And as is also entirely predictable, when your arguments are destroyed you fire up the insults, deployed with all the wit and grace of a pimply pre-teen.

Destroyed lol. I love how you destroy my arguments by saying "I can't do simple arithmetic, but...."

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Of course you WERE lying. And again, you'd need stilts and a stepladder to get anywhere near me. 

Proof you were and ARE lying: "How stupid does one have to be to believe that a handful of people tried to "violently overthrow the US gov't without so much as a single gun or a knife"?"

Did you think people wouldn't notice? lol. You're such a joke.

OK, so one person brought a gun but he never showed it to anyone, and two other people may have brought guns, but at least one of those two was recovered at the guy's home and there's report of him brandishing it.

I stand corrected - it wasn't "zero guns anywhere in the immediate area", it was just "zero guns known to have entered the capitol buildings, but one guy came really close and left his gun outside." Is that accurate enough for you? 

As far as I know your best example of someone 'carrying a gun' was "one single guy who dropped his gun outside". Is that correct? 

1 gun was brought to the exterior of the building but not inside, one gun may have stayed in a guy's home when he travelled to DC, and there is one more gun charge related to the mostly peaceful protest, which may or may not have resulted in a gun being carried into the building. Is that accurate enough for you?

I just gotta make sure before I comment any further, because I was under the impression that no guns entered the capitol buildings and that's a huge sticking point for you.

Do you have evidence of even 1 gun going into the capitol building psycho? 

By your megadolt standards, does "Maybe 1 gun entered the capitol building" constitute "trying to violently overthrow the US gov't"? Is that your final answer?

How many knives were there, Hodad? 3? FYI butter knives and 1" utility knives that are attached to people's keychains don't count, because no one has ever overthrown a large country with one of those, so don't try throwing out an inflated number like 6, ok genius?

If your reply about the harrowing knife situation is anything like your reply about the shocking number of guns it will say something like this: "ONE GUY HAD AN ARMY KNIFE! He's in jail for three years!" and then when I read the accompanying article it will say "A Swiss Army Knife two inches long was recovered from Gerard Kraziboi's car a month later, and authorities believe that he might have wielded it seditiously [sic] in the vicinity of the capitol buildings, but there are no witnesses."

In any event, I'd love for you to tell:

how many guns were known to be taken into the buildings and onto the grounds,

How many were brandished

how many were used, even if just to pistol-whip someone

how many knives are known to have gone into the buildings and onto the grounds

how many were brandished

How many were used

and how many officers were injured by guns or knives in this massive attempt to "violently overthrow the US gov't and end democracy" 100? 10? Zero...? Is it zero Hodad? I'm gonna go ahead and guess that the attempt to "violently overthrow the US gov't and end democracy" resulted in zero knife attacks and zero gun attacks.

How high the bar was set to arrive at the grand total of 60 weapons offences or whatever it is? Did pushing a barricade count? If someone swung their belt, was that a weapons charge? I'm assuming it was, but I don't wanna be wrong and get called a liar by the dumbest guy on the internet again.

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Grow up yourself, liar. You are factually wrong. If you were mature and honest enough to simply acknowledge it and learn I wouldn't need to rub your nose in it, but you're neither of those things, so I'm dropping this gem here again:"How stupid does one have to be to believe that a handful of people tried to "violently overthrow the US gov't without so much as a single gun or a knife"?"

OK, I'll amend it for you, Mr sensitive: "How god-damned stupid does one have to be to believe that a handful of people tried to "violently overthrow the US gov't and end democracy without bringing a single gun into the building"?"

 

Vice 

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Capitol Rioters Were Armed to the Teeth and Ready for War

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In total, the Secret Service confiscated “42 canisters of pepper spray, 269 knives or blades, 18 brass knuckles, 18 tasers, 6 pieces of body armor, 3 gas masks, 30 batons or blunt instruments, and 17 miscellaneous items likes scissors, needles, or screwdrivers'' from the 28,000 people who went through the magnetometers to enter the protest grounds at the Ellipse. 

28,000 people, "Armed to the teeth and ready for war", and they brought zero guns, 269 knives and less than hundred other items that you couldn't even rob a gas station with.

How retarded does one have to be to quote that article? 

28,000 people "Armed to the teeth and ready for war" would have enough weaponry to take over a small city, not just bluff their way through a few gas station robberies. 

And FYI, in a crowd of 28,000 people in the US on any given day, it's almost certain that 269 of them will have knives of some sort, and that's less than 1% of them. Just put the numbers into your calculator if you don't believe me. Click 269 and then the division sign, then type in 28,000 and hit the "="  sign.)

And then this:

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Ellis said that he used the Zello walkie-talkie app while he was in DC on Jan. 6,

OMG, it actually was a war. 

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" --- Pathethc

That's a perfect summary of your whole post in one 'word'.

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Mazza had two guns, FYI. They weren't there to kill police officers. They were there to kill Pence, Pelosi and who knows how many others. He told as much to LEO after his arrest. I know you're bummed out that he didn't get to follow through, but I'm still going to call you out for the commited, if inept, defense of the indefensible. 

Your previous article said this:

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Mark Andre Mazza, a rioter who drove up from Indiana, brought a .45-caliber revolver to the riots. While on the grounds, Mazza assaulted a police officer and somehow along the way dropped his firearm.

SO this guy who was trying to go on a killing spree didn't even bring a single gun into the building. Ho hum. What else ya got...?

50% of America's population tried to "violently overthrow the US gov't and end democracy"... remember? It was only comparable to Pear Harbour and 9/11...

OMG, did the Japanese really have 267 knives at Pearl Harbour? I can't believe they didn't win the whole effin' war right there. 

 

In the end you provided on quote from one guy who didn't even bring his gun when he went in to kill a bunch of people who surrounded by armed cops with actual, loaded guns. BLM walked around chanting their intent to murder cops. Is that wore than 1 guy who almost had a gun, babbling after he was arrested?

Here's the deal dude: Leftards like you supported violent riots that caused billions in damages, saw thousands of cops assaulted, thousands of cops injured, thousands of building burned down, thousands of buildings looted, and you never stopped cheering. 

Now you want to be taken seriously when you say things like "Armed to the teeth and ready for war" when referring to 28,000 people, less than 1% of whom were armed at all, and zero had guns. You call that "trying to violently overthrow the US gov't and end democracy". 

Honest to God dude, you're just really stupid and impossibly credulous and there's no other way to describe it. I don't know what ever gave you the impression that you have a high IQ, but I can only guess it was from beating your dog at Crazy 8's, or from your mom.