85.7% of Covid Deaths in Canada Were Among the Multi-Vaxed from Aug to Sept of 2022. Jabbing 85% of the Population Didn't Reduce Deaths

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Health Canada's own stats show that 85.7% of Canadians who died of covid between Aug 21 2022 and Sept 25 2022 were multi-vaxxed. I posted them for you. I even showed you how to do the math.

HC's stats only show this when you cherry pick and rig them with your own hooey.  Math is not the issue.

[eyeball]

53 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1) Why would people who didn't want the jab ask for un-jabbed blood, hey Einstein?

2) FYI vax-Nazis are not in a position to look down their noses at people who just want to make their own health decisions. 

1. They're nuts.

2. People, adults at least, are as free to refuse transfusions as they are vaccine. No one is going to force them although it does look as if higher courts (New Zealand's so far) will if pressed, trump parental transfusion decisions if their child's life is in danger without a transfusion.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Damn, it looks like you're gonna miss your appointment for your 6th booster. 

Don't worry about it, you'll still have the same chance of dying as everyone else. 

[WestCanMan]

36 minutes ago, eyeball said:

HC's stats only show this when you cherry pick and rig them with your own hooey.  Math is not the issue.

OMG, here we go again. Eyeball has another big word that he doesn't know how to use lol. 

FYI "cherry-picking" is when you take a small sample size and try to act like it's a fair representation of a much larger group. For example, you take the stats from the Courtenay and Comox from Dec of 2021 and say "OMG, look what covid has been doing to Canadians for the past two years!".

I used the death stats for "an entire country". Our entire country. There's nothing more accurate or pertinent to Canadians than the death stats for our entire country. In the most recent reporting period. 

I take back what I said the EF: he's not dumber than you. You just didn't get a chance to strut your stuff. 

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

FYI "cherry-picking" is when you take a small sample size and try to act like it's a fair representation of a much larger group.

That's right.  Cherry picking in your case is to take a slice of time arithmetic it all up with a bunch of hooey and then represent yourself as an expert who's got it all figured out. 

[WestCanMan]

41 minutes ago, eyeball said:

1. They're nuts.

2. People, adults at least, are as free to refuse transfusions as they are vaccine. No one is going to force them although it does look as if higher courts (New Zealand's so far) will if pressed, trump parental transfusion decisions if their child's life is in danger without a transfusion.

1. They're smarter than you are, so what does that make you? 

2. Do we live in a country where everyone is free to refuse the clot-shot now? Is that because of all the people who died from it, all the kids who got heart injuries from it, is it because 85.7% of covid deaths in this country are among the vaxed now, or is it because of the Freedom Convoy? What changed? 

[WestCanMan]

Just now, eyeball said:

That's right.  Cherry picking in your case is to take a slice of time arithmetic it all up with a bunch of hooey and then represent yourself as an expert who's got it all figured out. 

It's not just one slice of time. It's several slices of time in a row, each of them one month long, all saying the same thing (within half a percent or so). 

Furthermore, month-long intervals are a far better representation than longer intervals, because within a 1-month timespan the vax rate doesn't fluctuate nearly as much, and you're comparing every group's relative success against the same variants during the same part of the flu season. 

FYI what happened between Dec 14 2020 and Feb 28 2021 can't be compared in a straight line with Jun 14 2022 to Aug 28 2023. The vax rates are different, there are different variants, there are different boosters, it's a different part of the flu season, people have built up some acquired immunity now, etc.

I know this is all over your head but don't sweat it. I put it here because other people can read it and most of them will be able to understand it. Some of them don't even need to be told.  

[eyeball]

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

2. Do we live in a country where everyone is free to refuse the clot-shot now? Is that because of all the people who died from it, all the kids who got heart injuries from it, is it because 85.7% of covid deaths in this country are among the vaxed now, or is it because of the Freedom Convoy? What changed? 

We've always lived in a country where you're free to make your own choice.

The only thing that's changed is your perception. Like your math/BRF issue. You need to create all this hooey about Nazis and such to get around your misperception.

[eyeball]

39 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's not just one slice of time. It's several slices of time in a row, each of them one month long, all saying the same thing (within half a percent or so). 

Well, no matter how you slice things, Health Canada and virtually every expert in the field is still saying the same thing - that unvaccinated people are, have been and likely will remain being responsible for half the hospitalizations and deaths.

Of course they don't have the 7th smartest guy on the Internet on the team so go figure.

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

 

Don't worry about it, ....

You have to be totally embarrassed by the number of posts you have made to me to try and make me agree with you and failed every time?? LOL

Keep on pulling on the push door dude, you will pull it off the hinges before you get me to agree with anything you have to say or present so yeah, "Don't worry about it"  LOL

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

We've always lived in a country where you're free to make your own choice.

Liar. 

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The only thing that's changed is your perception.

STFU troll. God you're stupid. 

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You have to be totally embarrassed by the number of posts you have made to me to try and make me agree with you and failed every time?? LOL

Keep on pulling on the push door dude, you will pull it off the hinges before you get me to agree with anything you have to say or present so yeah, "Don't worry about it"  LOL

I don't try to make you agree with me. I point out where you're wrong, then you just say the same stupid things again. 

[Goddess]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

We've always lived in a country where you're free to make your own choice.

There is legal precedent that the "choice" offered is not a real choice based on free will.  It is coercion, threats and blackmail.

When the lawsuits start to come in for employers, there is already legal precedent.

 

Threats of loss of employment ARE well-known to be coercive. See, e.g., Am. Fed’n of State, County & Mun. Employees Council 79 v. Rick Scott, 717 F.3d 851, 874 (11th Cir. 2013 

“In effect, the State is offering its employees this Hobson’s choice: either they relinquish their Fourth Amendment rights and produce a urine sample which carries the potential for termination, or they accept termination immediately … To begin with, we do not agree that employees’ submission to drug testing, on pain of termination, constitutes consent under governing Supreme Court case law”.

 

[WestCanMan]

I wonder what's going to happen with covid deaths now that Biden said the pandemic is over.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/current-situation.html

Covid deaths were quite a bit higher in 2022 than in previous years, so it's weird to say it's over, but the media has stopped talking about all the deaths too so what's a leftist supposed to think about all those deaths now? Tey just don't matter anymore? 

The CTV "Breaking News" page doesn't even have 1 story about covid on it today: https://www.ctvnews.ca

Pretty weird how more deaths results in zero coverage after covid completely dominated the news cycle in 2020 and 2021. 

Dec and January are the biggest months for covid deaths, and seeing as we just had the worst year ever covid deaths should be pretty high on this chart, I guess we'll see what happens once the data rolls in. 

[Goddess]

🤣

Unattractive people are more likely to continue wearing Covid face masks, study suggests  | Daily Mail Online

 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

There is legal precedent that the "choice" offered is not a real choice based on free will.  It is coercion, threats and blackmail.

When the lawsuits start to come in for employers, there is already legal precedent.

 

 

He wasn't really looking to discuss the topic, he was just trolling. 

[Contrarian]

---> A report by AP which goes into this phenomena of crediting deaths to people's obsession. Or better yet, using tragedies to fit one's obsession, one's BIAS. 

For all you militant anti-vaxxers, don't waste your time trying to argue with me on what the other side does too and how you justify your cause,  that is high-school tactics to hide the irrationality in your cause. Meaning you know what you are saying is not valid so you resort to finger pointing. 

‘Died suddenly’ posts twist tragedies to push vaccine lies. 

Results from 6-year-old Anastasia Weaver’s autopsy may take weeks. But online anti-vaccine activists needed only hours after her funeral this week to baselessly blame the COVID-19 vaccine.

A prolific Twitter account posted Anastasia’s name and smiling dance portrait in a tweet with a syringe emoji. A Facebook user messaged her mother, Jessica Day-Weaver, to call her a “murderer” for having her child vaccinated.

In reality, the Ohio kindergartner had experienced lifelong health problems since her premature birth, including epilepsy, asthma and frequent hospitalizations with respiratory viruses. “The doctors haven’t given us any information other than it was due to all of her chronic conditions. ... There was never a thought that it could be from the vaccine,” Day-Weaver said of her daughter’s death.

But those facts didn’t matter online, where Anastasia was swiftly added to a growing list of hundreds of children, teens, athletes and celebrities whose unexpected deaths and injuries have been incorrectly blamed on COVID-19 shots. Using the hashtag #diedsuddenly, online conspiracy theorists have flooded social media with news reports, obituaries and GoFundMe pages in recent months, leaving grieving families to wrestle with the lies.

https://apnews.com/article/vaccine-died-suddenly-misinformation-a8e3a80a015ba9bf78b6bd4f3c271f58

Edited February 5 by Contrarian

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't try to make you agree with me. I point out where you're wrong, then you just say the same stupid things again. 

OK.

"You have to be totally embarrassed by the number of posts you have made to me to try to convince me and failed every time?? LOL"

Back at ya.. "you just say the same stupid things again". ...and again....and again....and again LOL

Edited February 5 by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, Goddess said:

There is legal precedent that the "choice" offered is not a real choice based on free will.  It is coercion, threats and blackmail.

When the lawsuits start to come in for employers, there is already legal precedent.

 

Threats of loss of employment ARE well-known to be coercive. See, e.g., Am. Fed’n of State, County & Mun. Employees Council 79 v. Rick Scott, 717 F.3d 851, 874 (11th Cir. 2013 

“In effect, the State is offering its employees this Hobson’s choice: either they relinquish their Fourth Amendment rights and produce a urine sample which carries the potential for termination, or they accept termination immediately … To begin with, we do not agree that employees’ submission to drug testing, on pain of termination, constitutes consent under governing Supreme Court case law”.

 

How American LOL

Edited February 5 by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

11 hours ago, Goddess said:

🤣

Unattractive people are more likely to continue wearing Covid face masks, study suggests  | Daily Mail Online

 

Why are you not wearing your mask then??

Edited February 5 by ExFlyer

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, Contrarian said:

---> A report by AP which goes into this phenomena of crediting deaths to people's obsession.

You just posted an anecdote, thinking it was some kind of binding accusation of people from this forum who never even heard of it until now.

Do you think I care what someone else said whom I've never met? 

Wise up Contrarian, that has nothing to do with me or with this thread.

 

Just out of curiosity, do you think that no one is dying from the vax? 

Do you think that young people who are healthy, and at no risk of dying from covid, don't have to worry about being seriously harmed by the vax? 

Do you think that it's common or uncommon for women to experience menstrual changes from the vax? Why is that even happening? Why does CBC never talk about it? 

 

 

If you wanna talk about people who are "crediting deaths to people's obsessions", what about the people who throw people into the "covid death" category?

FYI almost no one "dies of covid" the same way that people "die of cancer". It's quite common for people to die for absolutely no other reason than "they had cancer".

Conversely, it's almost unheard of for anyone to die for no other reason than "they got covid".  

The average age of "covid deaths" is the same as the average life expectancy in our country. It's just over 82 in Canada, and last time I looked about 66% of covid deaths were among people over 80 and 2/3 of the rest of them were among people 70-80. When you add to that the fact that the vast majority of cvid deaths were among people with serious underlying health issues, how long do you think they had left to live, on avg? 1 year? 6 months? 1 month? FYI it's not ten years dude, not even close. 

So, why are so many people marked down as "covid deaths"? Seems like a bit of an obsession, right?

[Contrarian]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Wise up Contrarian, that has nothing to do with me or with this thread.

Use the proper channels if you consider this is off topic or spam. 

Until then, please allow me to keep posting what I find interesting. 

You are going to stop me? How? Tag a mob again and hope they come in and swear, dislike the messages and proclaim you monarch? and you think that is going to stop me, I will post daily brother twice as much and quit my job if I have to. You think I am kidding? Maybe 😄

Back to reality though, why are you talking to me like I am part of the pro-vax mob and is in a conspiracy against you and ilk like you that spends their days chasing articles about deaths so they can feed their obsession? 

I don't care my friend if you write daily BIAS. So will I, my BIAS today is against people that wait for other people to die so they can get an arousal somewhere that they were right somehow about COVID-19.

Who knows tomorrow. Stick around, I told you I can't place such messages on ignore, you are one of the people that delivers daily the dose of irrationality and I enjoy arguing with you. Once in a while, some random good points, like that antifa story with Sky News but that is an easy one, because is your BIAS, I have yet to see you reverse a position on something, meaning critical thinking. 

Edited February 6 by Contrarian

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Use the proper channels if you consider this is off topic or spam. 

Until then, please allow me to keep posting what I find interesting. 

I don't have to snitch to forum mods to get your post taken down, I just showed you how worthless it was. 

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Back to reality though, why are you talking to me like I am part of the pro-vax mob

Because you said this:

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For all you militant anti-vaxxers, 

which proves that you're part of the pro-vax clown car mob.

FYI the term "anti-vaxer" already has a meaning: it refers to people who don't believe in actual, safe vaccines which have been proven over and over again to be massively successful at protecting children from active diseases which will very likely kill them. 

The pseudovax doesn't work, it's very dangerous, and the people who want bodily autonomy have nothing in common with "anti-vaxxers". In fact, I bet that if any of you vaxtards bothered to check into it, you'd find that almost 100% of "anti-vaxers" actually have all of their children's real vaccines up to date. Right?

So don't run your snotty mouth here and then say "I wasn't running my snotty mouth."

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and is in a conspiracy against you and ilk like you that spends their days chasing articles about deaths so they can feed their obsession? 

The truth is an obsession with some people, yes.

Some of us really object to being lied to. 

You never heard sweet FA about vax injuries from your precious sources until long after "conspiracy theorists" were talking about them for months.

Inside of your pro-vax mob brain I can guarantee that you felt like the majority of covid deaths were among the unjabbed, because that's exactly what the vax-handlers told you.

- "It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated!" 

- "If you're vaccinated you don't have to worry about getting covid."

- "If you're vaccinated you can't spread it."

Right? 

You heard all that shit. You believed it. Then you saw my thread saying that "85.7% of covid deaths in recent months were among the multi-vaxed" and you thought "BS, He's lying", just like eyeball and Hodad and Rebound and ExFlyer, etc, etc, etc. 

Instead of saying, "Hey, thanks for digging out that useful bit of information. I was under the impression that something completely different was happening" you just fling poo like a monkey in the zoo.

 

Guess what Contrarian... There were so many covid deaths in 2020 that they shut down the economy. They said "We can't open up again until we have a safe and effective vaccine!"

Then they got 85% of Canadians vaccinated with what they call a "safe and effective vaccine" and covid deaths were actually up in 2022, with 85.7% of covid deaths being among the vaxed, but they stopped talking about covid deaths. On CTV the other day there wasn't a single story about it. There probably still isn't one today. Biden said that the pandemic is over. Is that weird? More people are dying than before but the pandemic is over????? 

"The people who are dying of covid in 2022 don't matter. Fogg them." - Joe Biden

So guess what the deal is Spanky.... The vax-Nazis really want to say "VAXXES UBER ALLES!!!! HEIL PFIZER! HEIL PFIZER! HEIL PFIZER!" but there's a fly in the ointment. It's that stinky little fact that WE KNOW covid deaths went up after vaxing and that the vaxed die at the same rate they would if they all just changed their gonch more often. 

[Contrarian]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The truth is an obsession with some people, yes.

Some of us really object to being lied to. 

You never heard sweet FA about vax injuries from your precious sources until long after "conspiracy theorists" were talking about them for months.

Inside of your pro-vax mob brain I can guarantee that you felt like the majority of covid deaths were among the unjabbed, because that's exactly what the vax-handlers told you.

- "It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated!" 

- "If you're vaccinated you don't have to worry about getting covid."

- "If you're vaccinated you can't spread it."

Right? 

You heard all that shit. You believed it. Then you saw my thread saying that "85.7% of covid deaths in recent months were among the multi-vaxed" and you thought "BS, He's lying", just like eyeball and Hodad and Rebound and ExFlyer, etc, etc, etc. 

Instead of saying, "Hey, thanks for digging out that useful bit of information. I was under the impression that something completely different was happening" you just fling poo like a monkey in the zoo.

Guess what Contrarian... There were so many covid deaths in 2020 that they shut down the economy. They said "We can't open up again until we have a safe and effective vaccine!"

Then they got 85% of Canadians vaccinated with what they call a "safe and effective vaccine" and covid deaths were actually up in 2022, with 85.7% of covid deaths being among the vaxed, but they stopped talking about covid deaths. On CTV the other day there wasn't a single story about it. There probably still isn't one today. Biden said that the pandemic is over. Is that weird? More people are dying than before but the pandemic is over????? 

"The people who are dying of covid in 2022 don't matter. Fogg them." - Joe Biden

So guess what the deal is Spanky.... The vax-Nazis really want to say "VAXXES UBER ALLES!!!! HEIL PFIZER! HEIL PFIZER! HEIL PFIZER!" but there's a fly in the ointment. It's that stinky little fact that WE KNOW covid deaths went up after vaxing and that the vaxed die at the same rate they would if they all just changed their gonch more often. 

The ramblings of someone that almost on a daily basis gets reminded of his own limitations, so, he writes BIAS with a passion, mixing up some words, thinking he has some sort of impact. The internet does it again.

How can a man, that lacks or manipulates basic mathematics, teach society about truth?

You only have this platform and a few other free platforms to just mark down what your mind produces, so you think you are smart and have validity the same as someone which worked hard through medical school and paid through their nose in debt for that medical school. 

Do you want me to post that quote again when you lacked or manipulated information via basic mathematics?

So no basic mathematics, yet, me and you have an equal vote, isn't the West great?Inclusivity. Is not only "radical leftists" that require people to include them.

When everything fails, you tag the mob like a coward in my estimation, this time it seems you wrote the rambling by yourself, it must have touched a nerve into your tribal mind that spends time chasing people dying. Wrong or right? Don't worry, I know you will deny it, your master is Trump, that's who you got your frame of thinking from. 

What an "efficient" way to spend your time. Truly, you are a man that people have to learn from and a role model for our Society.  😂 

PS - as for using terms such as:

anti-vax, pro-vax, mob, radical leftists, thugs, I am only using those with people that are into tribal politics, also part of inclusivity. I am using your terminology to relate with you. When you come to more reasonable posts then we can talk, like you said, as "grown-ups". Now is just an easy game of ping pong at your speed.

Edited February 6 by Contrarian

[Nationalist]

It's rather apparent now that The Rona was and is a  means to an end. We see that the global death rate hardly noticed The Rona. So why all the panic? Isn't that obvious? Control. It's much easier to control people when they are scared of dying.

Today the media is busily squelching exposes about the uptick in sudden deaths of healthy people. About the snakes of blood cuts being found in vaxed people who just...drop dead.

It's all so...incideous. 

Edited February 6 by Nationalist