Darwin Strikes Again....

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I never said I'm "Pro Putin". I said I understand the actions and reactions. But nice try...

LOL...yes yes...its his fault...its her fault...its the Russians...the Arabs...ANYONE but us!

Understand something Boges..."Ya Gits wut ya pays fer" in this world. Our moronic leaders have painted the public in a corner and now want to point at anyone else and go...'See? Its their fault'.

Man-up for Gawd's sake!

So you're denying the instability caused by this war is effecting Fossil Fuel prices? 

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4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

It's not like setting-up germ labs in Ukraine run by Nazis is provocative or anything.

Oh, so that's why Putin is doing this? ?

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

So you're denying the instability caused by this war is effecting Fossil Fuel prices? 

Its A CAUSE among several. And it IS NOT the PRIMARY CAUSE.

STUPIDITY is the PRIMARY CAUSE!

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Just now, Nationalist said:

Its A CAUSE among several. And it IS NOT the PRIMARY CAUSE.

STUPIDITY is the PRIMARY CAUSE!

Just happens that prices spiked this winter after the invasion. 

But it's all because of EVs and pledges for 2035. You're having a fever dream. ?

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

Oh, so that's why Putin is doing this? ?

 

I'd say it certainly is a factor. If you were making weaponized variola in your backyard, I'd view you as a threat to my family, friends and pets.

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1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

I'd say it certainly is a factor. If you were making weaponized variola in your backyard, I'd view you as a threat to my family, friends and pets.

 Where are these mysterious Germ Labs? 

He's calling up 300,000 conscripts because of a germ lab? He's calling for elections to annex territory, because of Germ Labs? 

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

 Where are these mysterious Germ Labs? 

He's calling up 300,000 conscripts because of a germ lab? He's calling for elections to annex territory, because of Germ Labs? 

 

You're free to pretend that there are no germ labs.

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, Boges said:

Just happens that prices spiked this winter after the invasion. 

But it's all because of EVs and pledges for 2035. You're having a fever dream. ?

Please don't invite me to call you an idiot.

What was the first thing Biden did with his executive pen? Dump on fossil fuels.

What did Europe do and is now screwed because of it? Dump on fossil fuels.

In 2021 the USA was energy self-sufficient for the first time ever...if I'm not mistaken.

These Greenie harpies coupled with Globalist and NATO twits, set the stage for this BS.

But, like a bunch of little kids, they point to Putin...OPEC...anyone but their own bloody stupidity.

Again...Man-Up!

Edited September 21, 2022 by Nationalist

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

You're free to pretend that there are no germ labs.

I'm just looking for more information on said Germ Labs. How do they factor into the shitty military strategy seen by the Ruskies? 

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Boges said:

I'm just looking for more information on said Germ Labs. How do they factor into the shitty military strategy seen by the Ruskies? 

 

I don't sealion for ideologues.

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Please don't invite me to call you an idiot.

What was the first thing Biden did with his executive pen? Dump on fossil fuels.

What did Europe do and is now screwed because of it? Dump on fossil fuels.

In 2021 the USA was energy self-sufficient for the first time ever...if I'm not mistaken.

These Greenie harpies coupled with Globalist and NATO twits, set the stage for this BS.

But, like a bunch of little kids, they point to Putin...OPEC...anyone but their own bloody stupidity.

Again...Man-Up!

The US is already energy independent. 

You've shown you really have no capability to rationally discuss this without entering conspiracy territory. 

You can cry all you want about Fossil Fuels. The developed world has pledged to move away from them. 

Cry all you want about it. But don't suggest a move to Electric Vehicles is individually a financially prudent move. 

[Boges]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

I don't sealion for ideologues.

I accept your surrender. 

[Boges]

Much like all those Russian Conscripts Putin is going to be throwing into the flames. 

You don't need a rifle, the man infront of you has one! 

[ironstone]

23 hours ago, Rebound said:

My friend is a realtor and he's put over 150,000 miles on his Tesla in 3 years, and he's never had a problem. 

This link has Tesla ranked way down at 23 out of 30 major car manufacturers. Not that great when you factor in the rather high price.

How Reliable are Tesla Cars? (carcareportal.com)

Tesla Reliability ?️ One Of The Least Reliable Cars? (motorverso.com)

I agree with Dana Perino on FOX with regards to ICE or EV. How about all of the above? Don't limit consumer choice or outright force them into EV's. 

If EV's can sell on their own merit and without massive government subsidies just let the marked decide.

The world is not going to end if we don't eliminate ICE vehicles.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

The US is already energy independent. 

You've shown you really have no capability to rationally discuss this without entering conspiracy territory. 

You can cry all you want about Fossil Fuels. The developed world has pledged to move away from them. 

Cry all you want about it. But don't suggest a move to Electric Vehicles is individually a financially prudent move. 

 

The US currently imports 40% of what it consumes.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

I accept your surrender. 

 

I don't expect you to sealion for me, for example. So you won't hear me demanding you produce graphs, maps or pictures with circles and arrows on them.

 

[ironstone]

3 minutes ago, Boges said:

The US is already energy independent. 

You've shown you really have no capability to rationally discuss this without entering conspiracy territory. 

You can cry all you want about Fossil Fuels. The developed world has pledged to move away from them. 

Cry all you want about it. But don't suggest a move to Electric Vehicles is individually a financially prudent move. 

If the US is truly energy independent why did Biden ask the Saudis for more oil?

Biden is on the hunt for higher oil production on his trip to Saudi Arabia. The odds are steep. (nbcnews.com)

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4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

I don't expect you to sealion for me, for example. So you won't hear me demanding you produce graphs, maps or pictures with circles and arrows on them.

I'm not even denying your claim. Just wondering how it plays into the insane military strategy seen by the Russians so far. 

[Boges]

7 minutes ago, ironstone said:

If the US is truly energy independent why did Biden ask the Saudis for more oil?

Biden is on the hunt for higher oil production on his trip to Saudi Arabia. The odds are steep. (nbcnews.com)

He wants them to increase production because the price of Oil is Global. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61188579

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In June 2021, with demand for crude beginning to recover, Opec+ started gradually increasing supply, putting an extra 400,000 barrels a day onto world markets. In July and August, it added an extra 600,000. It will add an extra 100,000 in September.

However, it is still supplying some two million barrels a day less than in spring 2020.

When Russia invaded Ukraine, the price of crude soared to well over $100 a barrel, because of panic on the markets. This has caused significant rises in the price of petrol at the pumps.

 

 

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"Saudi and the UAE have spare capacity, but they are refusing to increase output on their own," says Kate Dourian. "They don't want to be dictated to by the West.

"They are saying that the gap between supply and demand is narrowing, and that today's high prices simply reflect panic on the part of oil buyers."

Other Opec+ nations are struggling to increase output.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by Boges

[ironstone]

7 minutes ago, Boges said:

He wants them to increase production because the price of Oil is Global. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61188579

In June 2021, with demand for crude beginning to recover, Opec+ started gradually increasing supply, putting an extra 400,000 barrels a day onto world markets. In July and August, it added an extra 600,000. It will add an extra 100,000 in September.

However, it is still supplying some two million barrels a day less than in spring 2020.

When Russia invaded Ukraine, the price of crude soared to well over $100 a barrel, because of panic on the markets. This has caused significant rises in the price of petrol at the pumps.

It was already happening before the Ukraine invasion.

This oil price shock was in the making long before the Ukraine invasion (thenationalnews.com)

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Just now, ironstone said:

It was already happening before the Ukraine invasion.

This oil price shock was in the making long before the Ukraine invasion (thenationalnews.com)

Yes. Like with a lot of the issues going on right now, Society has struggled to ramp back up post Pandemic. 

I'm sure Oil companies are happy to reap profit, as opposed to re-investing in infrastructure and human resources. 

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Boges said:

I'm not even denying your claim. Just wondering how it plays into the insane military strategy seen by the Russians so far. 

 

You can never satisfy an ideologue enough. So even if I did produce all the so-called evidence you demand, you WILL simply reject it. This is why I do not play the sealioning game you and others engage in as a form of discussion.

As for Russia's 'insane military strategy'...you seem lacking in any military history. Hitler believed that all one needed to do to Russia is kick-in the front door making the whole rotten edifice come tumbling down. When I hear all this current glorious talk of imminent victory at Stalingrad, I'm left wondering how screwed are we really are in terms of 'winning' in Ukraine.

How is that 6th Army doing? The government says all is well.

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

You can never satisfy an ideologue enough. So even if I did produce all the so-called evidence you demand, you WILL simply reject it. This is why I do not play the sealioning game you and others engage in as a form of discussion.

That would indicate you do have a shred of evidence, which you don;t. 

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As for Russia's 'insane military strategy'...you seem lacking in any military history. Hitler believed that all one needed to do to Russia is kick-in the front door making the whole rotten edifice come tumbling down. When I hear all this current glorious talk of imminent victory at Stalingrad, I'm left wondering how screwed are we really are in terms of 'winning' in Ukraine.

How is that 6th Army doing? The government says all is well.

 

Except Russia is the invading force here. They're the ones being encircled by a domestic force. 

They're the one using poorly trained conscripts to guard their flanks. They're the ones that tried to gobble up territory as fast as possible only to relinquish it soon after. 

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DoP is the master of the art of Thread Drift. 

[ironstone]

As more places will likely pledge to end the sale of ICE vehicles it's going to be very problematic for the pickup truck market. EV's seem to be pretty quick and all that but there is that elephant in the room called range.

Chevy Silverado V8 vs F150 Lightning real world towing range test: