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[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

implying I am genocide denier is beyond despicable

you should be ashamed of yourself

absolutely pathetic

 

So you aren't one...I'll assume for now.

Can you describe the Azov group? Who are they?

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

So you aren't one...I'll assume for now.

Can you describe the Azov group? Who are they?

I'm done with you

you are incapable of discussing this topic in good faith

you have done massive damage to your reputation in this thread

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I'm done with you

you are incapable of discussing this topic in good faith

you have done massive damage to your reputation in this thread

 

I don't care about how you feel about me.

I do notice I can't get a straight answer out of you, though.

 

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

I don't care about how you feel about me.

I do notice I can't get a straight answer out of you, though.

if you wanted straight answers

you should have thought about that before repeatedly accusing me of Holocaust denial

jackass

Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

if you wanted straight answers

you should have thought about that before accusing me of Holocaust denial, jackass

 

I'm not certain if you are or are not...thus my asking for point-blank clarification. We've had Holocaust deniers here in the past.

My point is that the very same group that assisted the SS get the job done at places like Babi Yar still operates inside Ukraine with the blessing of the government.

"What's a few Nazis in the mix?"

Should we just ignore the Nazi bits and pay attention to the blue & yellow bits?

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

I'm not certain if you are or are not...

and you wonder why I wouldn't want to engage in a discussion with someone being this much of a bad faith actor?

you disagree with me..... are you a Holocaust denier?

f*ck off

Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

and you wonder why I wouldn't want to engage in a discussion with someone being this much of a bad faith actor?

 

Meh...I don't know you and you don't know me. Your support for all things Ukrainian...including a seemingly blind eye to the Azov group...caught my attention. 

I view them as a paramilitary group of actual Nazis that exists right out in the open inside Ukraine. You're free to disagree with that assessment...if you wish.

 

 

[Dougie93]

On 9/2/2022 at 3:12 AM, DogOnPorch said:

What's a few Nazis to stop Putin?

You're better than that...I hope.

Canada did not fight the Second World War to defend the Jews

Canada fought the Second World War to defend the Suez Canal for the British Empire beyond

then it was NATO policy to leverage fascist regimes as part of containing the Soviets in the Cold War

so if you're going to indict Chrystia Freeland

you would have to indict every Canadian government for the last 83 years

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

Canada did not fight the Second World War to defend the Jews

Canada fought the Second World War to defend the Suez Canal for the British Empire beyond

then it was NATO policy to leverage fascist regimes as part of containing the Soviets in the Cold War

so if you're going to indict Chrystia Freeland

you would have to indict every Canadian government for the last 83 years

 

I'm well aware about the 'one Jew is too many' stuff from our government during WW2. Interestingly, our government said that even though the Jews of the MS St Louis were not asking for sanctuary in Canada. Their goal was getting to the USA during the 1940 intake by waiting it out in Cuban waters. As we both know, the Cuban government used that opportunity to steal what cash the Jews still had and send them packing back to Hamburg.

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

I'm well aware about the 'one Jew is too many' stuff from our government during WW2. Interestingly, our government said that even though the Jews of the MS St Louis were not asking for sanctuary in Canada. Their goal was getting to the USA during the 1940 intake by waiting it out in Cuban waters. As we both know, the Cuban government used that opportunity to steal what cash the Jews still had and send them packing back to Hamburg.

well I do respect your views on the matter

but could you clarify exactly what you are indicting Freeland for ?

are you saying that she is a National Socialist and/or Nazi sympathizer ?

or if not, what is her specific offence vis a vis her support of Ukrainian nationalism ?

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

well I do respect your views on the matter

but could you clarify exactly what you are indicting Freeland for ?

are you saying that she is a National Socialist and/or Nazi sympathizer ?

or if not, what is her specific offence vis a vis her support of Ukrainian nationalism ?

 

She is definitely part of a modern version of the Bandera movement. A Ukraine expert, she knew very well what the Blood & Soil banner of the OUN means including all of its history. But there she is...holding it up.

Ooooops...better delete that tweet.

Too late, Ms Freeland.

[Yzermandius19]

7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

She is definitely part of a modern version of the Bandera movement. A Ukraine expert, she knew very well what the Blood & Soil banner of the OUN means including all of its history. But there she is...holding it up.

Ooooops...better delete that tweet.

Too late, Ms Freeland.

you just accuse everyone who supports Ukraine of being a Holocaust denier

so much wokeness

Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

just accuse everyone who supports Ukraine of being a Holocaust denier

so much wokeness

 

Hold-up a Nazi banner and I might just assume you're a Nazi.

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Hold-up a Nazi banner and I might just assume you're a Nazi.

a few people do it

and you assume the whole country are Nazi's

you are like Trudeau accusing all the Freedom Convoy of being Nazi's because of one swastika

Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

a few people do it

and you assume the whole country are Nazi's

 

Freeland did do it. She's a key figure in the Liberal government.

It's not like she was handed the banner and went: "What's this?"

 

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

She is definitely part of a modern version of the Bandera movement. A Ukraine expert, she knew very well what the Blood & Soil banner of the OUN means including all of its history. But there she is...holding it up.

Ooooops...better delete that tweet.

Too late, Ms Freeland.

I'll take that under advisement

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

Freeland did do it. She's a key figure in the Liberal government.

It's not like she was handed the banner and went: "What's this?"

seeing Nazi's under every rock

so woke

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

seeing Nazi's under every rock

so woke

 

I'm seeing them in Ukraine.

And Freeland held-up one of their banners while tweeting out the whole thing proudly until someone pointed-out the poor optics of openly supporting the Bandera movement.

But seeing Joe's speech the other night, Red & Black might be the chosen colours of these folks.

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

I'm seeing them in Ukraine.

And Freeland held-up one of their banners while tweeting out the whole thing proudly until someone pointed-out the poor optics of openly supporting the Bandera movement.

But seeing Joe's speech the other night, Red & Black might be the chosen colours of these folks.

most of the support of Bandera is due to his support of Ukrainian nationalism and him fighting the genocidal Soviets and being assassinated for it for that cause

not him killing Jews

you aren't seeing what you think you are seeing

you are viewing this through a woke lens only

Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

8 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

 

not him killing Jews

 

That's apparently not a problem for a lot of the people that support Ukraine.

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

That's apparently not a problem for a lot of the people that support Ukraine.

fake news

if the only way you can convince yourself you're right

is too accuse everyone who disagrees with you of antisemitism

then your argument is very weak

hence the resorting to woke bullshit

[DogOnPorch]

23 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I'll take that under advisement

 

One thing I find really odd is that Nina Jankowicz (of Scary Poppins fame) also worked for the Ukraine government. Non-sequitur? Perhaps. But a lot of 'Ukraine experts' in the works these days...I notice.

[DogOnPorch]

5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

fake news

if the only way you can convince yourself you're right

is too accuse everyone who disagrees with you of antisemitism

then your argument is very weak

hence the resorting to woke bullshit

 

Are the Azovs Nazis?

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

Are the Azovs Nazis?

I'm pretty sure a bunch of them are

that doesn't make everyone who supports Ukraine a Nazi though

that does not follow

Edited September 3, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

I'm pretty sure a bunch of them are

that doesn't make everyone who supports Ukraine a Nazi though

 

How many Nazis are too many?