Religion of Woke takes another Blow

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, West said:

Every major nuclear plant is built by a sizeable body of water. Why do you think that is? 

Yes they use it for cooling but the water cooling the reactor is in a closed circuit and the river or lake water is cools the reactor water through a heat exchanger. Like a fresh water cooling system in a boat operating in salt water.

[West]

19 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Yes they use it for cooling but the water cooling the reactor is in a closed circuit and the river or lake water is cools the reactor water through a heat exchanger. Like a fresh water cooling system in a boat operating in salt water.

What are you even arguing here? ?

 

Edited July 18, 2022 by West

[Nationalist]

On 7/3/2022 at 10:40 AM, Michael Hardner said:

And yet there are all those clean coal billboards in virginia? I don't understand?

Ever heard of scrubber technology?

Electrostatic precipitators?

The current tech to coal generators is actually quite efficient.

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ever heard of scrubber technology?

Electrostatic precipitators?

The current tech to coal generators is actually quite efficient.

They don't scrub out CO2. 

Anthracite coal emits 228 lbs of CO2 per million BTU produced.

Diesel and heating oil emit 161 lbs and natural gas emits 117 lbs.

Edited July 18, 2022 by Aristides

[Aristides]

2 hours ago, West said:

What are you even arguing here? ?

 

The the water from outside does not circulate through the reactor. The reactor cooling water is a closed circuit like the cooling system in your car. Heat exchangers transfer the heat to the water from the lake or river, like your radiator transfers the heat from your engine into the ambient air.

[Nationalist]

43 minutes ago, Aristides said:

They don't scrub out CO2. 

Anthracite coal emits 228 lbs of CO2 per million BTU produced.

Diesel and heating oil emit 161 lbs and natural gas emits 117 lbs.

And what would you replace that with?

[Aristides]

Just now, Nationalist said:

And what would you replace that with?

Replace what? I'm saying you would be far better off using oil or natural gas. Coal is the worst.

[Nationalist]

Just now, Aristides said:

Replace what? I'm saying you would be far better off using oil or natural gas. Coal is the worst.

Yet the "Greenies" are trashing ALL fossil fuels.

NatGas generators are great. Yet they are more expensive I think.

So...let's say you're in Germany...or any of the Central Euro countries. A lot of your electricity is generated by coal. A lot is NatGas and some is nuclear.

How do you power your nation under these Green demands? Can it even be done? If you do...what are the repercussions?

[Nationalist]

On 6/30/2022 at 8:47 PM, Michael Hardner said:

If you don't care about the environment I don't know what to think, really.  It's kind of hard to believe people would seriously hold such a stance.

I don't think anybody is against caring for the environment. But when the caring get so over the top that it become a panicked demand to stop producing energy via the methods our entire world has been using and is setup to use, IMMEDIATELY and BEFORE a viable replacement can be found and put in place...

That's what rational people call FUCKING STUPID!

[WestCanMan]

On 6/30/2022 at 5:47 PM, Michael Hardner said:

If you don't care about the environment I don't know what to think, really.  It's kind of hard to believe people would seriously hold such a stance.

It's hard to believe that anyone is as sucked in as you are by hypocrites like Sebastian Vettel, David Suzuki, Prince Harry, Al Gore, Leo DiCaprio, John Kerry, Justin Trudeau, etc.

FYI people who own several mega-homes, take personal trips in private jets and then cruise in circles on mega-yachts shouldn't be pontificating to anyone else about conserving energy.

FYI leaving gas and oil underground in North America just so that we can import it from Saudi Arabia isn't saving anything. 

FYI I'm already unimpressed with your next post.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

They don't scrub out CO2. 

Anthracite coal emits 228 lbs of CO2 per million BTU produced.

Diesel and heating oil emit 161 lbs and natural gas emits 117 lbs.

A mature tree eats up 50lbs of CO2 per year. So 4.5 trees soak up all of the CO2 emitted to produce 1 million BTUs. There are enough trees in my yard to soak up hundreds of lbs of CO2. 

What's the environmental cost of creating solar panels to trickle in a bit of weather-dependent solar energy and then recycling them?  

What's the environmental cost of creating wind turbines to create some weather-dependent solar energy and then recycling them?  

Why is nuclear energy so unreliable? France has half of their nuclear reactors offline. They're importing energy from companies that burn fossil fuels...

 

Do you want to basically shut down our country while China and India put out more pollution in a day than we do in a year? 

[Yzermandius19]

11 hours ago, Aristides said:

Burning wood to generate electricity? Who does that? Who is going to clear cut forests to burn wood to generate power?

to hear their homes and to cook

people still do it

especially in poor countries

that's what they did before coal could be used to generate power

the use of coal improved the environment considerably

yet people who don't know any history trash talk it as if all it does is pollute

[Aristides]

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Yet the "Greenies" are trashing ALL fossil fuels.

NatGas generators are great. Yet they are more expensive I think.

So...let's say you're in Germany...or any of the Central Euro countries. A lot of your electricity is generated by coal. A lot is NatGas and some is nuclear.

How do you power your nation under these Green demands? Can it even be done? If you do...what are the repercussions?

The SCOTUS decision was for the the benefit of the coal industry. Period.

[Nationalist]

25 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The SCOTUS decision was for the the benefit of the coal industry. Period.

I have to wonder if you really believe that?

[Yzermandius19]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

The SCOTUS decision was for the the benefit of the coal industry. Period.

it was for the benefit of any industry against federal bureaucratic overreach

[Aristides]

10 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

it was for the benefit of any industry against federal bureaucratic overreach

The suit was brought by the coal industry, they aren’t looking after you or the environment.

[Yzermandius19]

28 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The suit was brought by the coal industry, they aren’t looking after you or the environment.

f*ck the EPA

they overstepped

the SCOTUS set them straight

the precedent doesn't just protect the coal industry

it protects anyone the EPA tries to f*ck with outside it's mandate

you just want the coal industry punished regardless of the means

so you don't want anyone getting in the way of their tyranny as long as it's directed at those you don't like

but unlike you, SCOTUS sees that folly in that thinking

[Aristides]

Right, next they will say the FDA has no authority to regulate the food and drugs you consume. What's the difference?

[Yzermandius19]

58 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Right, next they will say the FDA has no authority to regulate the food and drugs you consume. What's the difference?

the FDA has the authority to do that

the EPA overstepped it's authority

that's the difference

that's why SCOTUS stepped in

when the executive branch goes too far, it's the judicial branch's job to tell them to f*ck off

they don't just get to do whatever they want

Edited July 19, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Aristides]

What is the difference between the EPA’s authority and the FDA’s? Why is one overreach and the other not?

[West]

21 hours ago, Aristides said:

The the water from outside does not circulate through the reactor. The reactor cooling water is a closed circuit like the cooling system in your car. Heat exchangers transfer the heat to the water from the lake or river, like your radiator transfers the heat from your engine into the ambient air.

It's pretty easy to find the environmental impacts of nuclear power plants and its generally not good  

[West]

19 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

A mature tree eats up 50lbs of CO2 per year. So 4.5 trees soak up all of the CO2 emitted to produce 1 million BTUs. There are enough trees in my yard to soak up hundreds of lbs of CO2. 

What's the environmental cost of creating solar panels to trickle in a bit of weather-dependent solar energy and then recycling them?  

What's the environmental cost of creating wind turbines to create some weather-dependent solar energy and then recycling them?  

Why is nuclear energy so unreliable? France has half of their nuclear reactors offline. They're importing energy from companies that burn fossil fuels...

 

Do you want to basically shut down our country while China and India put out more pollution in a day than we do in a year? 

I dont imagine trapping the sun's rays is going to cool the planet. That's just me tho

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, West said:

It's pretty easy to find the environmental impacts of nuclear power plants and its generally not good  

Nothing compared to coal. You guys point to improvements in coal plants over the years while ignoring improvements in nuclear technology.

[jbander1A]

On 6/30/2022 at 4:53 PM, West said:

The religion of woke sets up government as sort of a hell for those who refuse to vote left. Middle America doesn't vote left therefore their ways of making money are evil and they are heathen. Meanwhile urban centers with their smog problem is not an environmental issue because they pull left. 

Those are the rules

Love it when you have a group word that every idiot can define for themselves . woke is used by the brain dead to explain everything they think, that isn't worth a explanation. The world is being taken over by microbes who have opinions but no facts.

[jbander1A]

Just now, jbander1A said:

Love it when you have a group word that every idiot can define for themselves . woke is used by the brain dead to explain everything they think, that isn't worth a explanation. The world is being taken over by microbes who have opinions but no facts.

Woke is the call of the dancing microbes.