ExFlyer Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, blackbird said: Actually the government is a major cause of the high cost of housing. It is a complex issue and I don't know all the answers. But I know that all levels of government have imposed all kinds of regulations and red tape on the construction home building industry which makes it very difficult to build homes and drives the price up considerably. Governments also have locked up land around municipalities and given huge tracts of land to logging companies in B.C. making the price of real estate in town and on the edge of town unavailable or extremely expensive. This is a huge problem. Yet Canada covers a huge geographic area and has one of the smallest populations per acre in the world. If a lot more land was made available outside towns and cities for building homes, I am sure the prices would drop considerably. But we are stuck with Socialist, dictatorial, authoritarian governments at all levels who refuse to do anything to help the general population. They are busy catering to their favourite privileged groups. I think there could be a lot of corruption behind the scenes tying up real estate. Talk to your municipalities for the rules, regulations and red tape. Municipality are trying to open "green space" but the residents are so against it appealing and appealing and appealing. In Ottawa we have a golf course that has lost money for a decade and wants get smaller and sell the rest for housing. Residents have appealed and prevented this form happening for 4 years now. The most classic example of NIMBY Edited August 17, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 31 minutes ago, Nationalist said: That may look small...but its not. That's 2.2% of all the properties in all of Ontario. And its concentrated around the cities. The 2.2% is housing, not property. it is still only 2/100th. Not much at all and certainly not the cause of the increase in housing prices . It is the other 98/100th that is the cause:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: The 2.2% is housing, not property. it is still only 2/100th. Not much at all and certainly not the cause of the increase in housing prices . It is the other 98/100th that is the cause:) You are grossly underestimating the effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Talk to your municipalities for the rules, regulations and red tape. Municipality are trying to open "green space" but the residents are so against it appealing and appealing and appealing. In Ottawa we have a golf course that has lost money for a decade and wants get smaller and sell the rest for housing. Residents have appealed and prevented this form happening for 4 years now. The most classic example of NIMBY Yes we have many NIMBYs and environmental radicals who make the loudest noise. It is time government stop listening to the loudest naysayers. The ordinary working folk are busy working and raising their family. The protesters have nothing better to do but save the planet from man. They should be rejected and forced to get out of the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You are grossly underestimating the effect. No I am not. 2/100th (2.2%) is the fact. 98/100th (97.8%) is Canadians doing the buying. In any world, 2% is not even worth considering. You are grossly over playing foreign investment Edited August 17, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: No I am not. 2/100th (2.2%) is the fact. 98/100th (97.8%) is Canadians doing the buying. In any world, 2% is not even worth considering. You are grossly over playing foreign investment You get a real estate agent to help you sell your home. The agent looks in MLS to see the price range for your type and size of home. The agent sees highs, lows and average prices. You hear the high and think, 'I want that.' A lot of these high prices are closed with foreign interests, many of them sight unseen. This creates a sort of vacuum of prices going up. Couple that with a shortage of houses on the market, with respect to buyers and you get soaring prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: You get a real estate agent to help you sell your home. The agent looks in MLS to see the price range for your type and size of home. The agent sees highs, lows and average prices. You hear the high and think, 'I want that.' A lot of these high prices are closed with foreign interests, many of them sight unseen. This creates a sort of vacuum of prices going up. Couple that with a shortage of houses on the market, with respect to buyers and you get soaring prices. Has nothing to do with what the house sold for. It sold for the price that someone was willing to pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Has nothing to do with what the house sold for. It sold for the price that someone was willing to pay for it. Huh...OK don't become a realtor. I can't think of a more simple explanation. Here... https://www.fivewalls.com/articles/impact-of-foreign-buyers-and-immigration-in-canadas-real-estate-market Edited August 18, 2022 by Nationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 11 hours ago, Nationalist said: Huh...OK don't become a realtor. I can't think of a more simple explanation. Here... https://www.fivewalls.com/articles/impact-of-foreign-buyers-and-immigration-in-canadas-real-estate-market Hey, fact is, only 2% of sales went to foreign buyers. that means 98% went to Canadians. Also, you do realize that a Realtor works for the seller eh? The more the buyer gets, the more the Realtor gets. Duhhh, who wants the the highest price the can get? Oh, the Realtor and seller??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 51 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Hey, fact is, only 2% of sales went to foreign buyers. that means 98% went to Canadians. Also, you do realize that a Realtor works for the seller eh? The more the buyer gets, the more the Realtor gets. Duhhh, who wants the the highest price the can get? Oh, the Realtor and seller??? OK well...you go with that. I'm not gonna waste time arguing the obvious with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 51 minutes ago, Nationalist said: OK well...you go with that. I'm not gonna waste time arguing the obvious with you. Yeah, it is too difficult for you to see the obvious. A realtor gets the best deal and most money for the home seller. Too obvious. I want that car (house), you want that car (house). Who gets the car (house)...the one that will pay the most, of course. Too obvious for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Yeah, it is too difficult for you to see the obvious. A realtor gets the best deal and most money for the home seller. Too obvious. I want that car (house), you want that car (house). Who gets the car (house)...the one that will pay the most, of course. Too obvious for you Believe as you like. The data and facts show otherwise but ya...whatever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) Some of the vagrants (aka Truckers) are squatting and ignoring eviction notices for not paying their rent. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/st-brigids-eviction-united-people-of-canada-1.6555643 Edited August 20, 2022 by TreeBeard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 On 8/18/2022 at 1:07 PM, Nationalist said: Believe as you like. The data and facts show otherwise but ya...whatever... What data and what facts? What is otherwise? That people are asking less for their homes that they want to? Face it, when it is a sellers ,market, buyers need to bid higher to get the house. When it is a buyers market, sellers have to take what they can get. Plain and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 16 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Some of the vagrants (aka Truckers) are squatting and ignoring eviction notices for not paying their rent. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/st-brigids-eviction-united-people-of-canada-1.6555643 Been following this. Another shit storm in the making Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 9 hours ago, ExFlyer said: What data and what facts? What is otherwise? That people are asking less for their homes that they want to? Face it, when it is a sellers ,market, buyers need to bid higher to get the house. When it is a buyers market, sellers have to take what they can get. Plain and simple. Ya well...no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 10 hours ago, Nationalist said: Ya well...no. Ya well, yes. The market drives the prices of everything and if you are not aware of that, ya well, wake up and smell reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Ya well, yes. The market drives the prices of everything and if you are not aware of that, ya well, wake up and smell reality. Not completely in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Not completely in this case. Pure market forces is exactly that case. You want, you pay, whatever to get the item (house , car, art etc) whenever more than one person wants the same thingh If you cannot understand that then you are very unaware of how it is Back to the topic of vagrants. I feel there are more and more people realizing that they do not need to work or make effort. They fully understand that someone will give them what they need if they just wait for it. So, why bother? Edited August 21, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Pure market forces is exactly that case. You want, you pay, whatever to get the item (house , car, art etc) whenever more than one person wants the same thingh If you cannot understand that then you are very unaware of how it is Back to the topic of vagrants. I feel there are more and more people realizing that they do not need to work or make effort. They fully understand that someone will give them what they need if they just wait for it. So, why bother? Wrong. When people have nothing to do, they begin to feel useless...directionless...depressed. then the depression deepens and you have a vagrant...in a lot of cases. People need to challenge themselves...experience success...and continue to challenge themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Wrong. When people have nothing to do, they begin to feel useless...directionless...depressed. then the depression deepens and you have a vagrant...in a lot of cases. People need to challenge themselves...experience success...and continue to challenge themselves. I disagree. I agree. It is up to the people themselves. If you get whatever you need for free, why work for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Things sure has changed under Trudeau reign. Never in my 60 yrs have seen so much division in our country. And it's all about leadership, which we do not have. Everyone with a brain has been purged from the liberal party. Sad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 17 hours ago, Nationalist said: Wrong. When people have nothing to do, they begin to feel useless...directionless...depressed. then the depression deepens and you have a vagrant...in a lot of cases. People need to challenge themselves...experience success...and continue to challenge themselves. We need leadership with a plan to fix the country,not change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, PIK said: We need leadership with a plan to fix the country,not change it. Did I say change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, PIK said: We need leadership with a plan to fix the country An old and tired fairy tale no such luck though. Where the populace doesn't give a darn about what's going on and cares only about beer and dancing (and basic survival) miracles don't usually happen. A two thousand year old story and that's in written history. Dinosaurs knew long before that. Edited August 22, 2022 by myata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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