Dougie93 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) the rapacious exploitation of natural resources is what Canada is all about Canada is not an idea Canada is not a religion Canada is not an ethnicity Canada is only an agreement called Confederation and the main purpose of this Confederation is to get rich by extracting resources for export making money is the only reason to live in this swampy bug infested mostly frozen hellhole our ancestors had to be forced to come here, it was a hardship posting my ancestor was press ganged by the Royal Navy to Canada against his will then he made his way in the Triangle Trade, rum, tobacco & slaves his progeny became lumberjacks, running saw mills as the family business that's Canada, that's all it ever was, all it ever will be so if you're not down for that, you're in the wrong place Edited May 22, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: You aren't the whole nation. Cougar and his like are easily replaced by Asian immigrants tens of millions of them ready to come here and work from India alone Canada found the Northwest Passage to India and now the Indians are coming back to the British Empire to make a better life for themselves here Canada & India are the core of the British Empire jo9ning on the same day, 10 February 1763 upon the signing of the Treaty of Paris the Treaty of Paris 1763 being the basis of the Canadian constitution itself the only legal claim Canada has to these lands therein the French signing Canada & India over to the British, to end the Seven Years War Wolfe defeats Montcalm at Quebec, Clive defeats St. Frais at Plassey Edited May 22, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) and thus how & why Canadian Nationalism falls apart in the face of logic as not only is Canada not one nation, but rather a collection of nations in a shotgun marriage Canada is the British Empire itself the British Empire being an inherently Anti-Nationalist institution, Empire the antithesis of nationalism the British Crown subordinates the nations within to the imperial project Canada being entirely a product of that imperial project if you are a Nationalist in the British Empire, that makes you an enemy of the Crown by default because at that point, you are lining up with the republicans the Boer Commandos, the Irish Republican Army, the Front de libération du Québec, etcetera and if so, then Canada cannot be your nation as Canada subjugated the French repelled the Fenians then crushed the Boer under imperial jackboots and Canada did all that for one person Victoria Hanover Mother Canada' who was a German the birthplace of your nation is in fact in Germany, the Kingdom of Hanover VRI - Pro Patria Canada is the monarchy, the monarchy is Canada there is nothing to defend here, but the British Crown those who have invoked Nationalism against the Crown, were mass murdered by Canada for doing so Edited May 22, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Posted May 22, 2022 this is of course why the Liberals are driven to impose the Post National State because in order to preserve the Confederation, they must preserve the British Imperial project it is built upon said project being to erase the nationalist impulses ever threatening to tear Canada apart as British is not a race, British is not a place, British is simply that Westminster Parliament on the hill in Ottawa that's the only Canada you got I'm not saying you have to love it but you don't have anything to replace it with it's either defend & uphold the British Crown here, or Canada ceases to exist Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Posted May 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, RedDog said: Canada is too far gone to be saved. Sad. which Canada do you mean ? the Canada founded by the French on 22 June 1603 ? the Canada taken as a war prize by the House of Hanover on 13 September 1759 ? the Canada which repelled the Americans on 13 October 1812 ? the Canada which staved off a civil war on 11 March 1848 ? the Canada which Confederated in the face of the Fenians on 1 July 1867 ? the Canada that crushed its own at at Batoche on 12 May 1885 ? the Canada that saved Belgium at Vimy Ridge on 9 April 1917 ? the Canada that landed on Juno Beach on 6 June 1945 ? the Canada that patriated the constitution on 29 March 1982 ? what is Canada in the end ? as a student of Canadian history, near as I can tell, there is no steady state Canada Canada is constantly in flux, always changing the terms to try to survive, in the face of the American juggernaut ever at her gates this is just another American invasion upon us now, a cultural revolution this time Canada hanging on by her fingernails, in the face of the American storm, same as it ever was this is what it is to be Canadian, forever clinging to the lifeboats on an ocean of American cultural imperialism Quote
RedDog Posted May 22, 2022 Report Posted May 22, 2022 The (central) Canada who created a repugnant structure to use the outer colonies as welfare dependants and sources of endless extorted revenue. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Posted May 22, 2022 Just now, RedDog said: The (central) Canada who created a repugnant structure to use the outer colonies as welfare dependants and sources of endless extorted revenue. well, the source of Alberta alienation does indeed have a colonial flavour but the colonials are actually the Easterners because Alberta was settled by British expats at the turn of the century Alberta was the Northwest Territories until waves of Britons came directly from the UK to the Canadian West to seek their fortunes as cowboys thus how the Province of Alberta was founded the colonials are the French dominated Canadians in the east you are the progeny of the British Empire in Alberta so Eastern Canada is technically your colony as you are the British descendants who dictated the terms in the beginning Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Posted May 22, 2022 don't forget, we Upper Canadians did not come from Britain we are the United Empire Loyalists we came from Pennsylvania in the wake of the Revolutionary War so in fact, Ontario is American while Alberta is the most British province of all Quote
Nationalist Posted May 22, 2022 Report Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/21/2022 at 8:32 AM, Dougie93 said: but the only threat to Canadian sovereignty over the Northwest Passage is the Americans it is the Americans who clam freedom of navigation to the 12 mile limit through the Northwest Passage America is Canada's only natural enemy the Arctic is a wasteland, it is only a maritime battlespace the arm of decision therein, is the nuclear powered submarine, that is the battleship now but when Canada tried to buy SSN's in the 1980's the Americans said no no you may not have nuclear submarines, Canada only the British are invited into the American strategic deterrent because America is the one violating Canadian sovereignty so the US Navy doesn't want Canadian SSN's following them around up there Canada is merely the No Man's Land over the pole between the Americans & Russians even the Australians have been invited into the club now, through AUKUS but not Canada, America will not allow Canada to have SSN's the purpose of the Canadian Forces is not to defend Canadian territory the purpose of the Canadian Forces is to fight other people's wars, never our own reason being, if Canada were to fight its own war that war would be against the Americans I guess that's what treaties are for. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Posted May 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I guess that's what treaties are for. and Canada is subject to three such critical treaties the Washington Treaty : NATO the Canada United States Agreement : NORAD the United Kingdom United States Security Agreement : Five Eyes those three treaties dictate Canadian foreign policy, subject to the will of the Americans therein Quote
Nationalist Posted May 22, 2022 Report Posted May 22, 2022 I don't care about the Hanover family. I care about Canada. She's in trouble right now. Lead follow or get outta the way. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted May 22, 2022 Report Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I don't care about the Hanover family. I care about Canada. She's in trouble right now. Lead follow or get outta the way. without Hanover, there is no Canada Victoria Regina Imperatrix Pro Patria Treaty of Paris 1763 signed by the House of Hanover is the basis of all Canadian constitutional law, the only legal claim for Canada to even exist if you don't care about that, then you are rendered into an American republican by default not that I have any quarrel with that but you will have forsaken Canada therein, inherently although Americans will certainly welcome an old stock Albertan to the ranks, that's a quality recruit I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steelAs ye deal with my condemners so with you my grace shall dealLet the hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heelHis truth is marching on Edited May 22, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Nationalist Posted May 23, 2022 Report Posted May 23, 2022 13 hours ago, Dougie93 said: without Hanover, there is no Canada Victoria Regina Imperatrix Pro Patria Treaty of Paris 1763 signed by the House of Hanover is the basis of all Canadian constitutional law, the only legal claim for Canada to even exist if you don't care about that, then you are rendered into an American republican by default not that I have any quarrel with that but you will have forsaken Canada therein, inherently although Americans will certainly welcome an old stock Albertan to the ranks, that's a quality recruit I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steelAs ye deal with my condemners so with you my grace shall dealLet the hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heelHis truth is marching on The picture you paint would allow England to simply claim Canada as it's own. Not able to buy that. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Posted May 23, 2022 40 minutes ago, Nationalist said: The picture you paint would allow England to simply claim Canada as it's own. Not able to buy that. yes, as I say, you have been Americanized most Anglo Canadians are now Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) the problem you have tho, is that your Americanized Canada has no history it's only been around since 1982 and frankly, Canada hasn't done much since 1982 I personally cannot be a nationalist for Americanized Canada it's a fake country to me it's the Liberal Post National State so Amerianized Canada delenda est I say vive le QUebec libre Edited May 23, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Nationalist Posted May 23, 2022 Report Posted May 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: the problem you have tho, is that your Americanized Canada has no history it's only been around since 1982 and frankly, Canada hasn't done much since 1982 I personally cannot be a nationalist for Americanized Canada it's a fake country to me it's the Liberal Post National State so Amerianized Canada delenda est I say vive le QUebec libre I'm sorry you feel this way. I love Canada and will defend her should the need arise. We have the potential to be a real power in the world. All we have to do is remove the negative influence of Libbies and greenies. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, Nationalist said: I'm sorry you feel this way. I love Canada and will defend her should the need arise. I already defended Canada and all it did was stab my brothers in the back I have no love left for Canada I obey the law, I pay my taxes, I take care of my neighbours, my coworkers, my local community but otherwise, I wouldn't cross the street to piss on Canada if it was on fire I have become a Sovereignist with the Quebecois nationalists now, by Canada's default 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) and that by the way is the Monarchy as who gives Quebec the right to cede from Confederation ? Her Majesty defends that right Quebec is not even governed by the Canada Act 1982, as Quebec refused to sign it Quebec is still governed by the British North America Act and so am I God, Queen, Country Regiment, Corps, Commander-in-Chief Je me souviens Edited May 23, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Nationalist said: We have the potential to be a real power in the world. All we have to do is remove the negative influence of Libbies and greenies. you don't have the potential to be a real power in the world, that is a delusion your Canada is an isolationist hermit kingdom, living a fantasy land under America's benevolent protection you will never remove the Liberal Party of Canada from Amerianized Canada as they are one and the same the Liberal Party of Canada is the Canada that you profess to love, tho you clearly do not realize that sing your Liberal Party of Canada song wave your Liberal Party of Canada flag that is your only nation now I will hold fast with British North America, to Hell with the Liberal Post National State we British North Americans have a glorious history, we have no need for the Liberal's fake country God save the Queen from Americanized Canada, let fly the Red Ensign & Maple Leaf Forever the Thistle, Shamrock, Rose entwined Edited May 23, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Posted May 23, 2022 as to my American side I would not say that I am an American Nationalist neither rather, I am an American Imperialist Anglo-American Empire of Liberty I am a radical Republican Party of Lincoln free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying from Appomattox Court House to the Sea of Tranquility & beyond New Jerusalem in the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea natural rights endowed by the Creator Jesus of Nazareth e pluribus unum sic semper tyrannis Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2022 Report Posted May 23, 2022 it is Victoria Day here in Upper Canada Fête de la Reine, : Celebration of the Queen Victoria Hanover Queen & Empress Mother Canada Pro Patria 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted May 24, 2022 Report Posted May 24, 2022 On 5/18/2022 at 11:13 PM, cougar said: Yep. Attempting to join NATO was stupid and suicidal for them. But why do you draw a parallel between Ukraine and Canada? We are on a different continent for God's sake! Don't rattle the wasp nest and you will not get stung! I was a soldier who spent most of my life training to fight the wasp nest (Warsaw pact) guys like you cougar. What are you afraid off. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Dougie93 Posted May 24, 2022 Report Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) on the trace in the Fulda Gap who would have thought it was all going to end so suddenly the East Germans just walking past the border guards at Checkpoint Charlie glorious Edited May 24, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
cougar Posted May 25, 2022 Report Posted May 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Army Guy said: I was a soldier who spent most of my life training to fight the wasp nest (Warsaw pact) guys like you cougar. What are you afraid off. Not afraid of anything. I too spent time in military training shooting AK47-s and throwing grenades. Utter madness and stupidity. Ultimately nations get what they ask for. Look at the States - a new mass shooting today; hated across the world; afraid of terrorists on their soil; buying more weapons and becoming more volatile. Follow them and you will end up like them. Quote
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