Oksanna Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Shady said: Abortion kills women every single day. Unborn women. Regardless, overturning Roe v Wade doesn’t ban abortion. Roe v Wade isn’t a law. Overturning it means that it will be regulated the same way other rights are regulated. Like speech, second amendment, etc. At least half of the country will see no change. A quarter more will see some change, but abortion will remain legal up to a certain point. Only a handful of states, but probably none, might ban abortion outright. Someone looking to have an abortion will just need to find a neighbouring state to have the procedure. Furthermore, Democrats had the chance to codify abortion into actual law several times and chose not to. There’s literally a bill that’s been sitting in committee for almost a year that Democrats have never brought to a vote. Instead, they’ve been lazy, and relied on a 50 year old abortion ruling that was based on privacy, not body autonomy. But it’s nice to see that medical privacy and body autonomy are once again a thing now! Funny how that worked. Well, as I always need to point out, then you have killed billions. And this will mean outright bans on abortion, or have you not met the insurrectionist party? "Up to the states" means "we want to remove this right." You have killed women with this. Not your little magical spirits, REAL women will die because of this. No doubt about it. 1 1 Quote
Oksanna Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: I am just a random dude, with an opinion no less, you don't have to like it or agree with it...God forbid a man questions a woman or her rights. And somehow being women your magically much more aware of these issues...And if women are that much more aware, why are they getting pregnant in the first place, is it being lazy/ not educated on contraceptives or just too horny to care. There are points in which these questions are answered below is one of the examples. but I did find a female doctor with an opinion, and she disagrees with your entire premise, she gives a medical and scientific explanation of when someone becomes a human being. She must be one of those right-wingnuts. A Scientific View of When Life Begins - Charlotte Lozier Institute Canadian law however states that a fetus has no rights whatsoever until they are born or outside the womb. . .. I'm sure you would be good with that, I mean according to law and the Canadian medical association back in 2012. we can discard a fetus until 23 weeks and 6 days, after that time period it requires a good medical reason. I mention that because there are restrictions already placed on the mother... why are these restrictions good and others not? medical advances have been able to keep babies alive at 22 weeks... Just because it is law does not make it right. Canadian Medical Association: babies not human until after birth - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com) So, let me stop you right there. Are you trying to say you think contraceptives should be legal??? Quote
West Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Posted May 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Oksanna said: Well, as I always need to point out, then you have killed billions. And this will mean outright bans on abortion, or have you not met the insurrectionist party? "Up to the states" means "we want to remove this right." You have killed women with this. Not your little magical spirits, REAL women will die because of this. No doubt about it. He has personally killed someone? You have any proof of that? Quote
West Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Posted May 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, Aristides said: I have never worked for any government. And? Quote
Oksanna Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, West said: He has personally killed someone? You have any proof of that? Well, lot's of members of isis never directly killed anyone. Quote
Nationalist Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, Aristides said: Why would I be? In that thread you were saying it's ok for fully vaxxed people to come and go as the please. It was the trucker convoy thread. Are you going to deny you supported mandates? Shal I crawl through more stuff? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Oksanna Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 34 minutes ago, West said: Unless it's a vaccine. Then it's the choice of Justin Trudeau, your employer, and the 15 year old at McDonald's. AmIRight? "Sure, when you talk about dragging someone to prison and executing them for criticizing the king, you're all about freedom, but when I want to get into a nightclub and get gently told I can't come inside, suddenly you don't care anymore!!" That's what you sound like. Quote
West Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Posted May 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Oksanna said: "Sure, when you talk about dragging someone to prison and executing them for criticizing the king, you're all about freedom, but when I want to get into a nightclub and get gently told I can't come inside, suddenly you don't care anymore!!" That's what you sound like. Huh? Quote
West Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Posted May 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Oksanna said: Well, lot's of members of isis never directly killed anyone. The abortionists have ACTUALLY killed somebody. Talk about false equivalencies Quote
Oksanna Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, West said: Huh? You are strongly incentivized to get a shot that will help save millions and is harmless, and you are so completely weak and divorced from reality that you think that somehow compares to getting thrown in prison if you don't correctly perform a forced birth. Quote
Oksanna Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, West said: The abortionists have ACTUALLY killed somebody. Talk about false equivalencies No, they haven't. But, banning abortions absolutely does kill REAL women, not magical spirits of ones. It's never a good thing to base society on magic. It never works out well. Quote
Aristides Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, West said: And? And what? You said Trudeau was my boss. I have never worked for government although I have worked in government regulated industries in several countries. Trust me, Canada is one of least demanding when it comes to oversight. Whiney Canucks going on about their rights and how they live in a police state just make me laugh. They have no clue how good they have it. Quote
West Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Posted May 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, Aristides said: And what? You said Trudeau was my boss. I have never worked for government although I have worked in government regulated industries in several countries. Trust me, Canada is one of least demanding when it comes to oversight. Whiney Canucks going on about their rights and how they live in a police state just make me laugh. They have no clue how good they have it. I never said Trudeau was your boss just that he punishes you for daring to not take the Truey juice Quote
West Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Posted May 6, 2022 25 minutes ago, Oksanna said: No, they haven't. But, banning abortions absolutely does kill REAL women, not magical spirits of ones. It's never a good thing to base society on magic. It never works out well. Yes they have Quote
West Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Posted May 6, 2022 28 minutes ago, Oksanna said: You are strongly incentivized to get a shot that will help save millions and is harmless, and you are so completely weak and divorced from reality that you think that somehow compares to getting thrown in prison if you don't correctly perform a forced birth. So maybe you should provide proof that you've never had an abortion to your employer? Quote
Oksanna Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, West said: So maybe you should provide proof that you've never had an abortion to your employer? You think that's worse than getting thrown in jail? Quote
Aristides Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, West said: I never said Trudeau was your boss just that he punishes you for daring to not take the Truey juice No? Quote Then it's the choice of Justin Trudeau, your employer, Quote
Oksanna Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, West said: Yes they have Ok, so, how about we put people in jail for taking pictures? Somebody might think that will steal their soul, so that's as much murder as a a blastocyst. Quote
West Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Posted May 6, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: No? I provided you a list. The 15 year old at mcdinks your employer? Quote
West Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Oksanna said: Ok, so, how about we put people in jail for taking pictures? Somebody might think that will steal their soul, so that's as much murder as a a blastocyst. What? Quote
Oksanna Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 Just now, West said: What? You want to run a society based on magic. So, lets outlaw pictures. Quote
West Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Oksanna said: You want to run a society based on magic. So, lets outlaw pictures. You are just spewing random nonsense Quote
Oksanna Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 Just now, West said: You are just spewing random nonsense Yeah, you said performing abortions murders women, we are talking random nonsense. Quote
West Posted May 6, 2022 Author Report Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Oksanna said: Yeah, you said performing abortions murders women, we are talking random nonsense. Think you have me confused with someone else Quote
Oksanna Posted May 6, 2022 Report Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, West said: Think you have me confused with someone else Good, then you realize that banning abortion will kill real innocent women, and result in 0 positives. Quote
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