Protesting on Public Sidewalks now illegal in Alberta

[ExFlyer]

1 minute ago, West said:

The SC hasn't heard the sidewalk thing yet lol. 

Like when Scott Moe tried to use Kenney's logic to throw Tristan Durocher off public property for his 30 day camp out. Got slapped down by a judge

The Supreme court ruled on the entirety of Bill 1 (twice) which is your claim to be the "sidewalk thing".

Not an Albertan but I think the Durocher thing was before Bill 1. Durocher can't do that now.

Nice try but... you ain't got the juice.

[West]

5 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

The Supreme court ruled on the entirety of Bill 1 (twice) which is your claim to be the "sidewalk thing".

Not an Albertan but I think the Durocher thing was before Bill 1. Durocher can't do that now.

Nice try but... you ain't got the juice.

So the SC is pro communism. No surprises there as they are all JT appointees

[ExFlyer]

37 minutes ago, West said:

So the SC is pro communism. No surprises there as they are all JT appointees

Chuckle. You lost. Every retort of yours was denuded.

Your headline is misleading, that is it and that is all.

Accept with grace.

Edited April 7, 2022 by ExFlyer

[Nationalist]

15 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Chuckle. You lost. Every retort of yours was denuded.

Your headline is misleading, that is it and that is all.

Accept with grace.

Or...

Make even MORE noise and accusations. Create a shit-storm the likes of which the Libbies could never muster. Never relent and destroy Pixie-Dust once and for all. Put a real leader in power and...change the Supreme Court. Will the Conservatives ever do that? Hardly.

The only way to make these sell-outs listen, is to vote for alternative parties. It seems the only way we can ever get our country back.

[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Or...

Make even MORE noise and accusations. Create a shit-storm the likes of which the Libbies could never muster. Never relent and destroy Pixie-Dust once and for all. Put a real leader in power and...change the Supreme Court. Will the Conservatives ever do that? Hardly.

The only way to make these sell-outs listen, is to vote for alternative parties. It seems the only way we can ever get our country back.

Duhh, the discussion is actually about Alberta Conservative Bill 1, Critical Infrastructure Defence Act

Boom!! Blows you out of the water LOL

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Duhh, the discussion is actually about Alberta Conservative Bill 1, Critical Infrastructure Defence Act

Boom!! Blows you out of the water LOL

I fail to see your point. Perhaps you should stay out o' the water...

[West]

17 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Chuckle. You lost. Every retort of yours was denuded.

Your headline is misleading, that is it and that is all.

Accept with grace.

Nonsense. They just added the public sidewalk nonsense a few weeks ago. 

[ExFlyer]

34 minutes ago, West said:

Nonsense. They just added the public sidewalk nonsense a few weeks ago. 

Sorry, no amendments to the Bill since it was introduced back in 2020.

Oh and, no enforcement of the Bill since introduction.

Edited April 8, 2022 by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

59 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I fail to see your point. Perhaps you should stay out o' the water...

Just being polite to you because you were so far off topic.

It had nothing to do with Liberal, it was a Conservative government that passed the Bill.

[taxme]

On 4/4/2022 at 8:59 PM, West said:

In yet another blow to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, Jason Kenney's UCP government has now made it illegal with fines of up to 200k or a jail term for protesting on public infrastructure including public sidewalks. 

At least this one has finally got the union's attention. 

https://www.beta.ctvnews.ca/local/calgary/2022/2/11/1_5778169.amp.html

Why is Kenney continuing to erode basic human rights?

Because "conservative" Kenney is not a real and true conservative at all. He is just another liberal wearing conservative clothing. It seems like every dam politician in this country is a liberal socialist. It would appear as though one must be a liberal or socialist to become a politician and get into parliament. No politician appears to believe in rights and freedoms anymore. They all act more like a bunch of Marxist dictators rather than real and true leaders. 

The penalty for daring to protest in front of or on public property is a crime against Canadians and a violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. But ask any politician if they really care as to what the COR means or says. They have all pretty much torn up the COR and they are now using it for ass wipe. 

Since covid came along, we have seen many rights and freedoms taken away from us. And as far as I am concerned, we ain't seen nuttin yet, pardner. I am pretty sure that they are not yet finished with we the peasants. I am pretty sure that they have plans for us all come this fall. My gut feeling says this to me. We have been given some of our freedoms back, but for how long will that go on. Only time will tell. ?

[West]

31 minutes ago, taxme said:

Because "conservative" Kenney is not a real and true conservative at all. He is just another liberal wearing conservative clothing. It seems like every dam politician in this country is a liberal socialist. It would appear as though one must be a liberal or socialist to become a politician and get into parliament. No politician appears to believe in rights and freedoms anymore. They all act more like a bunch of Marxist dictators rather than real and true leaders. 

The penalty for daring to protest in front of or on public property is a crime against Canadians and a violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. But ask any politician if they really care as to what the COR means or says. They have all pretty much torn up the COR and they are now using it for ass wipe. 

Since covid came along, we have seen many rights and freedoms taken away from us. And as far as I am concerned, we ain't seen nuttin yet, pardner. I am pretty sure that they are not yet finished with we the peasants. I am pretty sure that they have plans for us all come this fall. My gut feeling says this to me. We have been given some of our freedoms back, but for how long will that go on. Only time will tell. ?

Yes the Conservative socialists are probably the most disappointing as you vote for one thing then get another. These folks can do alot of damage in 4 years

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Because "conservative" Kenney is not a real and true conservative at all. He is just another liberal wearing conservative clothing. It seems like every dam politician in this country is a liberal socialist. It would appear as though one must be a liberal or socialist to become a politician and get into parliament. No politician appears to believe in rights and freedoms anymore. They all act more like a bunch of Marxist dictators rather than real and true leaders. 

The penalty for daring to protest in front of or on public property is a crime against Canadians and a violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. But ask any politician if they really care as to what the COR means or says. They have all pretty much torn up the COR and they are now using it for ass wipe. 

Since covid came along, we have seen many rights and freedoms taken away from us. And as far as I am concerned, we ain't seen nuttin yet, pardner. I am pretty sure that they are not yet finished with we the peasants. I am pretty sure that they have plans for us all come this fall. My gut feeling says this to me. We have been given some of our freedoms back, but for how long will that go on. Only time will tell. ?

Do you have any idea what Bill 1 is? I think not because if you read it you would know how full of BS you are. https://www.alberta.ca/protecting-critical-infrastructure.aspx

It is not a crime to protest and of course there is no violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. that violations of the charter is thrown out only by people that have no idea what the charter is let alone what the Bill they are whining about is.

What part of Bill 1 is against the charter and what part of the charter is being violated?? Not your suppositions or feelings or gut but what you think are actual sections and facts and portions being violated.

You whiners are constantly asked that and have yet to form a logical, understandable response. All you can do and keep on doing is whine about your freedoms being violated yet you cannot provide details of exactly what.

https://docs.assembly.ab.ca/LADDAR_files/docs/hansards/han/legislature_30/session_2/20200528_0900_01_han.pdf#page=9

Stop blowing  smoke and prove your case.

 

Edited April 8, 2022 by ExFlyer

[Nationalist]

20 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Just being polite to you because you were so far off topic.

It had nothing to do with Liberal, it was a Conservative government that passed the Bill.

What's the difference? The Conservative party are liberals.

[ExFlyer]

25 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

What's the difference? The Conservative party are liberals.

Chuckle.

So, the Conservatives are Liberals.

Does that mean the Liberals are Conservatives?

And the Dippers are Liberals so the Liberals must be Dippers too?

You must have real difficulty when being critical LOL

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Chuckle.

So, the Conservatives are Liberals.

Does that mean the Liberals are Conservatives?

And the Dippers are Liberals so the Liberals must be Dippers too?

You must have real difficulty when being critical LOL

Interesting. 

Ya know...I find a lot of people lack the ability to think past elementary levels. How do you folks deal with multiple dimensions? 

Ah well...yes yes...have a good laugh son...

[eyeball]

On 4/9/2022 at 5:50 AM, ExFlyer said:

Chuckle.

So, the Conservatives are Liberals.

Does that mean the Liberals are Conservatives?

And the Dippers are Liberals so the Liberals must be Dippers too?

You must have real difficulty when being critical LOL

They're both right-wing as evidenced by their preoccupation with the distribution of power over wealth.

[taxme]

On 4/8/2022 at 12:27 PM, West said:

Yes the Conservative socialists are probably the most disappointing as you vote for one thing then get another. These folks can do alot of damage in 4 years

It is for dam sure that if the fools in the conservative party vote for and put liberal Charest in as their new leader then the conservative party is finished. They will then need to remove the name conservative party and call themselves the other liberal party. With the turd or Charest running the country, Canada can only see itself sink into oblivion. Those two despise Canada, and both want communism for Canada. These socialists from kweebec hate English Canada. 

I remember reading one time several decades ago where a guy called Serge Joyal in the liberal party said that the aim of the liberal party was to try and turn Canada into a french socialist country. So far, that is working well for them. The socialists politicians from kweebec have pretty much turned Canada into a french controlled socialist country. French liberal socialism has just about destroyed freedom and rights in Canada. 

While we the peasants slowly burn to death, the politicians in Ottawa keep throwing more fuel on that fire. ?

[taxme]

On 4/8/2022 at 12:54 PM, ExFlyer said:

Do you have any idea what Bill 1 is? I think not because if you read it you would know how full of BS you are. https://www.alberta.ca/protecting-critical-infrastructure.aspx

It is not a crime to protest and of course there is no violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. that violations of the charter is thrown out only by people that have no idea what the charter is let alone what the Bill they are whining about is.

What part of Bill 1 is against the charter and what part of the charter is being violated?? Not your suppositions or feelings or gut but what you think are actual sections and facts and portions being violated.

You whiners are constantly asked that and have yet to form a logical, understandable response. All you can do and keep on doing is whine about your freedoms being violated yet you cannot provide details of exactly what.

https://docs.assembly.ab.ca/LADDAR_files/docs/hansards/han/legislature_30/session_2/20200528_0900_01_han.pdf#page=9

Stop blowing  smoke and prove your case.

 

I think that many of us here have proven our case already. It's just that you appear to have a comprehension problem with trying to understand anything that is being said to you. All we are saying here is that peacefully protesting for people's rights and freedoms is not supposed to be a crime in Canada like it has now become in provinces like Alberta.

This was what the truckers protest was all about. Trying to restore rights and freedoms that were stolen away from all  Canadians during covid, and you should be showing support for the truckers and not try and condemn them. They did more for the fight for rights and freedoms than lefty liberals like you could ever do, military man.

If the Canadian military told you that those trucker protesters are terrorists, and the protests must be ended now, and if need be shot, you would probably follow those orders and shoot those truckers without hesitation, because as you already said, you would follow your orders without question, and shoot to kill if required. Disgusting. ?

[ExFlyer]

16 hours ago, taxme said:

I think that many of us here have proven our case already. It's just that you appear to have a comprehension problem with trying to understand anything that is being said to you. All we are saying here is that peacefully protesting for people's rights and freedoms is not supposed to be a crime in Canada like it has now become in provinces like Alberta.

This was what the truckers protest was all about. Trying to restore rights and freedoms that were stolen away from all  Canadians during covid, and you should be showing support for the truckers and not try and condemn them. They did more for the fight for rights and freedoms than lefty liberals like you could ever do, military man.

If the Canadian military told you that those trucker protesters are terrorists, and the protests must be ended now, and if need be shot, you would probably follow those orders and shoot those truckers without hesitation, because as you already said, you would follow your orders without question, and shoot to kill if required. Disgusting. ?

No, you have that quite wrong.

I support peaceful protests. Here in Ottawa there are peaceful protests almost every weekend, sometimes several at any given time.

Truckers occupation that blocks streets and break bylaws and will not move when asked is not peaceful. Blocking hospital entrances to protest and preventing or delaying people entry to the hospital is not peaceful (can very easily be harmful or more dangerous). Blocking critical infrastructure and preventing normal function is not peaceful and can have detrimental effects on many people.

My entire point in this discussion was to point out the subject title was false, or at the least, misleading. No people were stopped from protesting on sidewalks, or anywhere. In fact, there have been no fines or charges using Bill 1 at all. It was made law in case there was a need to clear paths for critical infrastructure and peoples safety. If you have evidence otherwise, please provide it but, as you usually have no proof, I suspect you will deflect to elsewhere.

As for your "shoot to kill" comment, you are totally incorrect in that as well. There is no order that a military can give that obliges you to kill anyone.

"4. Even though members of the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) are held to the highest standards of conduct, they do not give up the rights that are afforded to them under Canadian law, including under the Constitution."

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/corporate/reports-publications/military-law/an-overview-of-canadas-military-justice-system.html

 

[taxme]

6 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

No, you have that quite wrong.

I support peaceful protests. Here in Ottawa there are peaceful protests almost every weekend, sometimes several at any given time.

Truckers occupation that blocks streets and break bylaws and will not move when asked is not peaceful. Blocking hospital entrances to protest and preventing or delaying people entry to the hospital is not peaceful (can very easily be harmful or more dangerous). Blocking critical infrastructure and preventing normal function is not peaceful and can have detrimental effects on many people.

My entire point in this discussion was to point out the subject title was false, or at the least, misleading. No people were stopped from protesting on sidewalks, or anywhere. In fact, there have been no fines or charges using Bill 1 at all. It was made law in case there was a need to clear paths for critical infrastructure and peoples safety. If you have evidence otherwise, please provide it but, as you usually have no proof, I suspect you will deflect to elsewhere.

As for your "shoot to kill" comment, you are totally incorrect in that as well. There is no order that a military can give that obliges you to kill anyone.

"4. Even though members of the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) are held to the highest standards of conduct, they do not give up the rights that are afforded to them under Canadian law, including under the Constitution."

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/corporate/reports-publications/military-law/an-overview-of-canadas-military-justice-system.html

 

When a soldier is sent off to battle, he/she must know that they may or will have to kill another human being to defend themselves from being shot themselves. They do not need to be ordered or told to kill anyone. The military leaders know that. 

In order not to shoot anyone, that soldier would have to walk or run off the battle field and flee. If they do that, then they know that they could be court marshaled. They have no option but to stay and fight and shoot and maybe kill someone. 

There were many protesters fined for protesting on public property and some even jailed. One Tamara Lich was arrested and charged for peacefully protesting to name but one person. You need to visit alternative news media websites, like The Rebel, to get the other side of the story. ?

[ExFlyer]

5 minutes ago, taxme said:

When a soldier is sent off to battle, he/she must know that they may or will have to kill another human being to defend themselves from being shot themselves. They do not need to be ordered or told to kill anyone. The military leaders know that. 

In order not to shoot anyone, that soldier would have to walk or run off the battle field and flee. If they do that, then they know that they could be court marshaled. They have no option but to stay and fight and shoot and maybe kill someone. 

There were many protesters fined for protesting on public property and some even jailed. One Tamara Lich was arrested and charged for peacefully protesting to name but one person. You need to visit alternative news media websites, like The Rebel, to get the other side of the story. ?

I think you really do not understand the soldier, his task and his mindset. I dare say that no soldier has ever been ordered to kill someone. Have they? I am sure that they have but the circumstances are all varied and quite intense.

Protesters that were there peacefully and obeying the laws and bylaws, and there there thousands, were left alone to protest. The ones that were fined were fined because they broke those laws and bylaws. Name as many as you want but the fact is, the broke existing laws... many thousands were not arrested or fined.

I am not even going to look or listen  to the Rebel,  It is not even considered a news source or legitimate media.

[taxme]

On 4/12/2022 at 12:47 PM, ExFlyer said:

I think you really do not understand the soldier, his task and his mindset. I dare say that no soldier has ever been ordered to kill someone. Have they? I am sure that they have but the circumstances are all varied and quite intense.

Protesters that were there peacefully and obeying the laws and bylaws, and there there thousands, were left alone to protest. The ones that were fined were fined because they broke those laws and bylaws. Name as many as you want but the fact is, the broke existing laws... many thousands were not arrested or fined.

I am not even going to look or listen  to the Rebel,  It is not even considered a news source or legitimate media.

I could careless if you ever visit The Rebel. That is because you are unwilling to try and get the other side of the alternative media story. The truckers were obeying the laws. It was the radicals like Antifa and other communist groups l that were trying to disrupt the protests. Believe me when I say that if Trudeau could get his way, thousands of protesters would probably have been thrown into one of his communist gulags. Trudeau hates anyone who will not kiss his Marxist butt hole. 

That dictator Marxist Trudeau has decided that The Rebel is not considered a news source anymore and the dictator has decided to not allow The Rebel to have a journalist licence. Only news media that he will allow a licence to is the ones that are already bought off by him or are too willing to kiss his arse hole. This means that The Rebel will not be allowed to attend any of his Marxist speeches that this buffoon gives. No hard questions for this bimbo anymore. Just nice ones like how is your family doing.

Go back to sleep, military boy. While Canada burns, the military helps Trudeau pour more fuel on the fire. The Canadian military will fire on Canadian protesters like me or the truckers if they are ordered to do so. Canada has become almost full bore ahead communist. Our soldiers of the past fought and died for freedom in other countries and for Canada. They would probably be really pissed off if they were alive today and were seeing as to what freedoms and rights Canadians have lost today. 

Tens of thousands of Canadian soldiers died in two world wars so that dictators like Trudeau can now freeze bank accounts, and bring in emergency acts, and some city mayors making it illegal to protest on public sidewalks and arresting people who peacefully assemble. Wake up and smell the gawd dam coffee. ?

 

[Nationalist]

15 hours ago, taxme said:

I could careless if you ever visit The Rebel. That is because you are unwilling to try and get the other side of the alternative media story. The truckers were obeying the laws. It was the radicals like Antifa and other communist groups l that were trying to disrupt the protests. Believe me when I say that if Trudeau could get his way, thousands of protesters would probably have been thrown into one of his communist gulags. Trudeau hates anyone who will not kiss his Marxist butt hole. 

That dictator Marxist Trudeau has decided that The Rebel is not considered a news source anymore and the dictator has decided to not allow The Rebel to have a journalist licence. Only news media that he will allow a licence to is the ones that are already bought off by him or are too willing to kiss his arse hole. This means that The Rebel will not be allowed to attend any of his Marxist speeches that this buffoon gives. No hard questions for this bimbo anymore. Just nice ones like how is your family doing.

Go back to sleep, military boy. While Canada burns, the military helps Trudeau pour more fuel on the fire. The Canadian military will fire on Canadian protesters like me or the truckers if they are ordered to do so. Canada has become almost full bore ahead communist. Our soldiers of the past fought and died for freedom in other countries and for Canada. They would probably be really pissed off if they were alive today and were seeing as to what freedoms and rights Canadians have lost today. 

Tens of thousands of Canadian soldiers died in two world wars so that dictators like Trudeau can now freeze bank accounts, and bring in emergency acts, and some city mayors making it illegal to protest on public sidewalks and arresting people who peacefully assemble. Wake up and smell the gawd dam coffee. ?

 

I visit Rebel once in a while. Its a bit...harsh...but it gives me a perspective that balances my own perspective. Rebel News does play "hardball" with the Liberals. CBC plays hardball with the Conservatives.

I remember Sun News TV. I loved it. For a short time, I could see what CTV and CBC thought, and easily change the channel to Sun News and find out what they thought. In that way, I was empowered to find the middle ground...which, more often than not, is where the real "truth" exists.

They killed Sun News. Just one more act of authoritarian horseshit by the king of horseshit himself.

Justin Pixie-Dust Trudeau.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

They killed Sun News. Just one more act of authoritarian horseshit by the king of horseshit himself.

Justin Pixie-Dust Trudeau.

Exactly how he did he do that, with a fatwa or something?

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Exactly how he did he do that, with a fatwa or something?

Who controls the CRTC?