World Economic Forum (WEF) Influence on Canadian Policy

[West]

Find it funny when leftists call people "conspiracy theorists" like they aren't the ones who peddled the "collusion" no sense lol

[West]

5 minutes ago, Nexii said:

I don't think you need to be a conspiracy theorist to see that the Emergency Act was a power grab, and borderline into coup territory. All this conspiracy stuff detracts from the core issues. Only around 5-10% of people are of the personality type that want to believe any dumb conspiracy that's cooked up.

That being said I think Trudeau's ideology is highly influenced by WEF. But I don't think WEF is controlling him in some secret shadow cabal. If they were that powerful we'd already be much further down the path of totalitarianism.

The broader issue is throwing away sovereignty to foreigners by signing on to various initiatives which may not be in our national interest. So in a way, we are being controlled by foreign groups like the UN or like the WEF through their initiatives. Trudeau referred to Canada as being the first post nation state as he has sold us out. 

We've sold our inheritance for a bowl of lentil stew. 

Edited March 21, 2022 by West

[Nexii]

14 minutes ago, West said:

The broader issue is throwing away sovereignty to foreigners by signing on to various initiatives which may not be in our national interest. So in a way, we are being controlled by foreign groups like the UN or like the WEF through their initiatives. Trudeau referred to Canada as being the first post nation state as he has sold us out. 

We've sold our inheritance for a bowl of lentil stew. 

Economically, it's hard to deny that the West functions more and more like one giant country with countries becoming more like states. The Ukraine War has really shown how tied-together world commerce is now. Even China can't funnel help into Russia like in eras past.

While I'm not crazy over globalism, it would be better if such organizations were more democratic. Even the UN is not very democratic since if you're a deemed a special country you can veto anything against you. The WEF even less so. And so on with all the global organizations like the IMF, ICC, WTO, Interpol, etc. 

[Zeitgeist]

I think the WEF is pretty much anti-human garbage.

The UN can’t do much well, whether it’s the ridiculous rules of engagement in places like Rwanda that allow atrocities to take place on the UN’s watch or the inability to intervene in a place like Ukraine because one of the five countries with a veto, e.g. Russia, can just say no.

Once Canada signs onto a UN resolution then we can be beaten with a stick by countries that don’t respect our context.  We saw this with UNDRIP.  Canada needs to be much more independent and wary about UN, WEF, or WHO initiatives.  We’ve lost our sovereignty under Trudeau who is a WEF puppet.  

[cougar]

20 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I still can’t believe what unfolded in our country over the past two months. I never thought I’d see evil moves by the government of Canada.  Sure, acts of corruption by individuals or groups are in all governments.  The total alienation, vilification, and removal of rights from a segment of the population is nothing less than fascist.

.......

Canadians are distracted from how they were just violated, but we can all tell ourselves, at least we’re not suffering like the Ukrainian people. 

They are conveniently using Ukraine to shift the focus elsewhere , so Trudeau's fiasco gets a pass.

Our government is completely messed up.  I can do nothing to change it.  All I can do is shove it to them when they want to shove it to me.

I have a sick child, now an adult since 2019, who is more or less unable to work or even study due to his condition.  For 2020 I claimed a caregiver credit for him and the idiots sent me a list of questions, to which I responded with all info they might ever need including the contacts of all of my son's doctors.  What do they do?  Sent me a reassessment reversing the credit and asking me for a dozen of hundred dollars; they want a signed statement from a doctor, my word is not enough!  OK , I will give them one so they reverse the deeds of their stupidity.  But while I am at it, I will also ask them to reassess 2019, for which I did not claim the credit but was eligible to.  Finally I have encouraged my son to apply for all income assistance programs he is eligible to - something I wasn't probably going to do, if they did not piss me off completely.  I will let them bleed now, since they think a sick person can live on the $1,600 they earned in the year without any help from anyone else.  And if they are still alive, who would that someone who helped them survive be?

But they never went after KPMG with their Isle of Man tax free haven for millionaires or those crooks listed in the Panama papers.  

It is so hard to make them pull their heads out of their assess; it's like the ass is a magnet and straight back in their head goes!

[Moonbox]

11 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think the WEF is pretty much anti-human garbage.

but can't intelligently explain why...just vague, Illuminati-style conspiracy theories and a lot of absurd ranting and hyperbole.  

 

[Zeitgeist]

27 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

but can't intelligently explain why...just vague, Illuminati-style conspiracy theories and a lot of absurd ranting and hyperbole.  

 

You clearly haven’t read or watched clips about the various WEF initiatives.  It’s not a conspiracy.  I’ve done enough spoon-feeding.  Believe what you want.  I don’t have time for people with closed, uncritical minds.  Keep your blinders on and get back to your day job.  

[West]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

You clearly haven’t read or watched clips about the various WEF initiatives.  It’s not a conspiracy.  I’ve done enough spoon-feeding.  Believe what you want.  I don’t have time for people with closed, uncritical minds.  Keep your blinders on and get back to your day job.  

He chooses either the head in the sand approach or is a WEF toady

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, cougar said:

They are conveniently using Ukraine to shift the focus elsewhere , so Trudeau's fiasco gets a pass.

Our government is completely messed up.  I can do nothing to change it.  All I can do is shove it to them when they want to shove it to me.

I have a sick child, now an adult since 2019, who is more or less unable to work or even study due to his condition.  For 2020 I claimed a caregiver credit for him and the idiots sent me a list of questions, to which I responded with all info they might ever need including the contacts of all of my son's doctors.  What do they do?  Sent me a reassessment reversing the credit and asking me for a dozen of hundred dollars; they want a signed statement from a doctor, my word is not enough!  OK , I will give them one so they reverse the deeds of their stupidity.  But while I am at it, I will also ask them to reassess 2019, for which I did not claim the credit but was eligible to.  Finally I have encouraged my son to apply for all income assistance programs he is eligible to - something I wasn't probably going to do, if they did not piss me off completely.  I will let them bleed now, since they think a sick person can live on the $1,600 they earned in the year without any help from anyone else.  And if they are still alive, who would that someone who helped them survive be?

But they never went after KPMG with their Isle of Man tax free haven for millionaires or those crooks listed in the Panama papers.  

It is so hard to make them pull their heads out of their assess; it's like the ass is a magnet and straight back in their head goes!

I’ve learned over the years that the hardest working people are usually the first targets for accusations because we’re low hanging fruit.  We’ll quickly comply and pay back more taxes than we owe because we don’t have time to seek all the tax dodges.  Police, Revenue Canada, CAS, you name it, tend to shake down the people who pose the least problems for society because it’s easier. The execs or big shareholders with the legal teams and shell companies in the Cayman Islands are too much work.

Just make sure you get the disability money and everything else for which your son is entitled. Life is hard enough for people without mental or physical challenges. I can only imagine what it must be like for special needs or disabled people to pay bills and feel like they have normal lives.  

Edited March 22, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[West]

Looks like the Canadian Government is threatening Granny's pension if she's not vaxxed. You must be pretty sick to be a Liberal

[cougar]

13 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I’ve learned over the years that the hardest working people are usually the first targets for accusations because we’re low hanging fruit.

 

This is my conviction as well.  They sent the reassessment to my wife who barely made $30K in 2020.

I was averse to taking advantage of assistance programs for my son as I do not want him to feel less.  He is already depressed plenty as it is.

Whatever, there are always people much worse off.   We have to focus on the good things in life as much as we can and be impervious to the government BS and propaganda.

[Zeitgeist]

5 minutes ago, West said:

Looks like the Canadian Government is threatening Granny's pension if she's not vaxxed. You must be pretty sick to be a Liberal

Yes and the fact that in Ukraine they are attaching proof of vaccination to the right to access digital currency says everything about the dystopia Trudeau, Freeland, and the team of “Young Global Leaders” want to push through while we’re watching scenes of war carnage in Ukraine.  I used to be a member of the Liberal Party.  I now think these people are literally a danger to freedom and democracy.  I’m also uncertain that these people will be removed from office in the next election.  Polievre isn’t in the WEF and he has been the most vocal opponent of its influence on our government, but you can see how Moonbox and others make him out to be a demagogue or some other kind of villain.  The left can never veer far enough left anymore.  The opposition are always characterized as racist-fringe-misogynist.  Canada increasingly feels like a fake democracy. 

[Moonbox]

10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You clearly haven’t read or watched clips about the various WEF initiatives.

Sure I have.  I just don't attribute moustache-twirling to their initiatives.  

10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

It’s not a conspiracy.

No, the WEF is not a conspiracy.  You're right.  The things you say about it are batshit though.  

10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

 I’ve done enough spoon-feeding.  Believe what you want.

You've been spoon-fed (not spoon feeding).  The "arguments" you present here are like a box-ticking exercise from a Qanon 4dchan page. 

10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

 I don’t have time for people with closed, uncritical minds.  Keep your blinders on and get back to your day job.  

This coming from the guy who just said:

23 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think the WEF is pretty much anti-human garbage.

It takes a special type of self-delusion to criticize anyone else's critical reasoning skills when you come up with a gem like that.  

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

Sure I have.  I just don't attribute moustache-twirling to their initiatives.  

No, the WEF is not a conspiracy.  You're right.  The things you say about it are batshit though.  

You've been spoon-fed (not spoon feeding).  The "arguments" you present here are like a box-ticking exercise from a Qanon 4dchan page. 

This coming from the guy who just said:

It takes a special type of self-delusion to criticize anyone else's critical reasoning skills when you come up with a gem like that.  

Don’t you have other sites to spam?  The Politburo doesn’t pay you money for nothing.  

[West]

7 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Don’t you have other sites to spam?  The Politburo doesn’t pay you money for nothing.  

Moonshine is all like "you are wrong. Can't tell you why. You just are". 

 

[Zeitgeist]

4 minutes ago, West said:

Moonshine is all like "you are wrong. Can't tell you why. You just are". 

 

I wonder if he’s Gerald Butts.

[Michael Hardner]

31 minutes ago, West said:

Can't tell you why. 

I can: the WEF simply does not have the influence you claim.  They sell themselves as an 'influencer' and simply quoting them is like trying to convince people that KFC is empirically "Finger Lickin' Good"

[West]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

I can: the WEF simply does not have the influence you claim.  They sell themselves as an 'influencer' and simply quoting them is like trying to convince people that KFC is empirically "Finger Lickin' Good"

The WEF appears to be one of the influence peddling mediums by which our political class does their business. 

Billions to the WEF to develop a dystopian digital ID. Nothing to long term care facilities to ensure they aren't being wiped out by deadly viruses.

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, West said:

1. The WEF appears to be one of the influence peddling mediums by which our political class does their business. 

2. Billions to the WEF to develop a dystopian digital ID.

3. Nothing to long term care facilities to ensure they aren't being wiped out by deadly viruses.

1. Yes, agreed.
2. They used to say this about the social security number.  Why do you think it's dystopian again ?  You know the government already has everything on you it needs to ruin you right ?  
3. 'Nothing'
 

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To keep seniors safe and improve their quality of life, the 2020 Fall Economic Statement committed up to $1 billion through the Safe Long-Term Care Fund (SLTCF) to help provinces and territories undertake activities to improve infection prevention and control in long-term care.Feb 24, 2022

 

 

[West]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Yes, agreed.
2. They used to say this about the social security number.  Why do you think it's dystopian again ?  You know the government already has everything on you it needs to ruin you right ?  
3. 'Nothing'
 

 

2. Why do I think its dystopian? Because they've already shown their willingness to shut down bank accounts of political adversaries and deny service to people for private medical decisions.

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, West said:

Moonshine is all like "you are wrong. Can't tell you why. You just are". 

Can't tell you why?  Your claims are farcical nonsense, and your logic is demonstrably bad.  Your rantings and ravings are easily dissemble, the "evidence" you post is usually silly bullshit and when you faceplant and are clearly proven wrong you change the subject and move on.  

13 minutes ago, West said:

Because they've already shown their willingness to shut down bank accounts of political adversaries and deny service to people for private medical decisions.

Dumb stuff like this.  The Emergencies Act was a Canadian thing and an obvious subversion of the Law in Canada, but what on earth did it have to do with the WEF?  ? 

[West]

52 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Can't tell you why?  Your claims are farcical nonsense, and your logic is demonstrably bad.  Your rantings and ravings are easily dissemble, the "evidence" you post is usually silly bullshit and when you faceplant and are clearly proven wrong you change the subject and move on.  

Dumb stuff like this.  The Emergencies Act was a Canadian thing and an obvious subversion of the Law in Canada, but what on earth did it have to do with the WEF?  ? 

Despite you thinking your intelligent, "so and so is a dummy" is not a rebuttal lol. Yelling "it's been debunked" is also not a rebuttal. 

I know that's a surprise to the low intellect like yourself...

[Moonbox]

I'll ask again, what does the Emergency Act have to do with the WEF?  

This is good though....to say THIS:

3 minutes ago, West said:

Despite you thinking your intelligent, "so and so is a dummy" is not a rebuttal lol. Yelling "it's been debunked" is also not a rebuttal. 

and then to follow up with THAT:

3 minutes ago, West said:

I know that's a surprise to the low intellect like yourself...

Is a truly majestic display of critical thinking.  ?

[West]

8 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I'll ask again, what does the Emergency Act have to do with the WEF?  

This is good though....to say THIS:

and then to follow up with THAT:

Is a truly majestic display of critical thinking.  ?

Your rebuttals are pathetic and I'm only telling the truth about you.

What does it have to do with Emergencies Act? Well it shows the state of mind of the little children we call our government and by extension the WEF. We see how thin skinned they are. 

Edited March 22, 2022 by West

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, West said:

 Why do I think its dystopian? Because they've already shown their willingness to shut down bank accounts of political adversaries and deny service to people for private medical decisions.

That's an exaggeration of what happened.  Lots of people donated that weren't impacted.  Lots of people participated that weren't impacted.