Trucker's Convoy

[Dougie93]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Trudeau is a texbook example of a fascist. Cracking down on freedom of speech, hatemongering, etc.

but at the same time you are on this forum vehemently supporting Vladimir Putin

so what does that make you ?

 

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

but at the same time you are on this forum vehemently supporting Vladimir Putin

so what does that make you ?

 

Pragmatic.

I'm not defending Putin's internal politics, I'm defending Russia's right to defend themselves. 

Regardless of what you think of Putin as a person, the Russians don't need to tolerate Ukraine with their bioweapons, and their plan to bring the combined arms of 20 nations right to their doorstep. 

I know that you can only understand your own right to self defence, and not anyone else's, but that doesn't make Russia wrong. 

[Dougie93]

58 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Pragmatic.

I don't see how Trudeau's actions are not pragmatic

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I don't see how Trudeau's actions are not pragmatic

That's like saying that Putin's domestic policies and human rights abuses are pragmatic. You're backing a basic dictator now. 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That's like saying that Putin's domestic policies and human rights abuses are pragmatic. You're backing a basic dictator now. 

merely an observation. not an endorsement

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

merely an observation. not an endorsement

You're calling the PM's hatemongering, the freezing of innocent people's bank accounts, the beating and trampling of innocent protesters, and the arrest and long-term detention of people without bail who are only accused of minor offences 'pragmatic'. 

Either you don't know what the word pragmatic means or you're endorsing Trudeau's dictatorial actions. 

[Dougie93]

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You're calling the PM's hatemongering, the freezing of innocent people's bank accounts, the beating and trampling of innocent protesters, and the arrest and long-term detention of people without bail who are only accused of minor offences 'pragmatic'. 

Either you don't know what the word pragmatic means or you're endorsing Trudeau's dictatorial actions. 

nonsense

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

nonsense

The PM was guilty of hatemongering his own people, his sycophant media parroted his ridiculous/bogus/hateful claims against all evidence, he had his minions freeze innocent people's bank accounts without so much as a passing glance from a judge, the police beat peaceful protesters after they had surrendered peacefully on their knees and the media blacked it out, the police trampled innocent protesters and the media ignored it, people were arrested and detained without bail for long periods of time who are only accused of minor offences.

You referred to Trudeau as being 'pragmatic' after all of that. 

I'll say it again: either you don't know what the word pragmatic means or you're endorsing Trudeau's fascist/dictatorial actions. It's not speculation, it's not even slightly inaccurate, it just is what it is. 

[Dougie93]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

The PM was guilty of hatemongering his own people, his sycophant media parroted his ridiculous/bogus/hateful claims against all evidence, he had his minions freeze innocent people's bank accounts without so much as a passing glance from a judge, the police beat peaceful protesters after they had surrendered peacefully on their knees and the media blacked it out, the police trampled innocent protesters and the media ignored it, people were arrested and detained without bail for long periods of time who are only accused of minor offences.

You referred to Trudeau as being 'pragmatic' after all of that. 

I'll say it again: either you don't know what the word pragmatic means or you're endorsing Trudeau's fascist/dictatorial actions. It's not speculation, it's not even slightly inaccurate, it just is what it is. 

false dichotomy

[Goddess]

C19 VACCINE INJURY - A short film by NOT ON THE BEEB (Viewer discretion advised) (brandnewtube.com)

^^^  Why it should be a personal decision made between you and your doctor, based on your own personal risk and informed consent, as has been the case with medical procedures and interventions for decades and enshrined in the Hippocratic Oath. ^^^

Where there is this much risk of permanent disability and death, there must be choice.

This is what the truckers are fighting FOR and some of you here are fighting AGAINST.

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

false dichotomy

BS. 

You know exactly what we're talking about when we reference Trudeau's fascism, and you called it 'pragmatic'. I didn't put any words in your mouth. 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

BS. 

You know exactly what we're talking about when we reference Trudeau's fascism, and you called it 'pragmatic'. I didn't put any words in your mouth. 

strawman

[taxme]

17 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

all I said was that the only just reason to be an infantryman, a state sanctioned mass murderer by profession

is to defend the supremacy of God and the rule of law

if the state does not uphold those principles, then you should not kill nor die for that state by my doctrine

Many old, some in their 80's and 90's, German soldier were brought to justice way way after the second world war was ended. They did what they were told to do by the state and told to kill. But still they were brought to justice for obeying orders from their military commanders. 

This could happen to you one day. Think about it. You may be brought to justice for obeying orders. Hey, we never know, eh? ?

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

This is what the truckers are fighting FOR and some of you here are fighting AGAINST.

Coerced consent, gleefully ignorant consent, and willfully ignorant consent got us to 90% vaxed, too bad the vax doesn't actually do anything.

One thing that I would warn people about is vaxing right before flying.

A young person that I know personally wound up paralyzed for 12 hrs after he vaxed and then boarded a flight between Turkey and the USA, and he has had a lot of ongoing problems from it, and my wife's business associate has a son who vaxed before he flew to Japan and he was in hospital for two weeks with quite a bit of bleeding inside of his brain. I'm not sure how that is going for him now, last I heard was over a week ago. 

[WestCanMan]

13 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

strawman

You said Trudeau was pragmatic, not me. 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You said Trudeau was pragmatic, not me. 

Trudeau was pragmatic

to wit, dealing with things based on practical rather than theoretical considerations.

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, taxme said:

You may be brought to justice for obeying orders. Hey, we never know, eh? ?

I never obeyed an unlawful order,

I was fully compliant at all times with national and international law and the laws of armed conflict

[WestCanMan]

18 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Trudeau was pragmatic

to wit, dealing with things based on practical rather than theoretical considerations.

I'll fix the definition of pragmatic for you, so that Trudeau's actions fit the bill:

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prag·mat·ic

 

1. dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations....

    

   [Change to] dealing with things violently and shamefully, based on false accusations rather than actual  considerations.

Look! Trudeau is a pragmatist now!

Edited March 24, 2022 by WestCanMan

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

I'll fix the definition of pragmatic for you, so that Trudeau's actions fit the bill:

Look! Trudeau is a pragmatist now!

it was entirely sensible & realistic by Trudeau's stated objectives

[Goddess]

36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Coerced consent, gleefully ignorant consent, and willfully ignorant consent got us to 90% vaxed, too bad the vax doesn't actually do anything.

One thing that I would warn people about is vaxing right before flying.

A young person that I know personally wound up paralyzed for 12 hrs after he vaxed and then boarded a flight between Turkey and the USA, and he has had a lot of ongoing problems from it, and my wife's business associate has a son who vaxed before he flew to Japan and he was in hospital for two weeks with quite a bit of bleeding inside of his brain. I'm not sure how that is going for him now, last I heard was over a week ago. 

The FAA now requires a 48 hour waiting period for pilots after vaccination with the covid jabs.  Some feel 48 hours is not nearly long enough, although according to VAERRS, the majority of adverse events, deaths and injuries occur within the first 48 hours.

This was one of the DoD whistleblowers that all the vax Nazis here rejected her evidence because her testimony was on a platform they didn't agree with.  She also testified before some US Senators and again - her testimony was rejected by many here because they didn't agree with the platform it was presented on.  They likely will reject this article as well, but - oh well. Willful ignorance prevails in the weak-minded CBC regurgitators.

Army flight surgeon says pilots risk 'sudden cardiac death' from COVID vaccine side effect | American Military News

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Long said “complications of myocarditis include dilated cardiomyopathy, arrhythmias, sudden cardiac death.” She also shared an assessment, which has previously been reported through the National Center for Biotechnology Information, U.S. National Library of Medicine, which states the long-term mortality rate for Myocarditis “is up to 20% at 1 year and 50% at 5 years.”

The same people here who reject that myocarditis is serious at all - I'm sure the deaths amongst 16-24 year olds in the next 5 years will be swept under the rug as "coincidence".  But, please - continue to preach about how the rest of us who take these deaths seriously are immoral and selfish.

BTW, I was told flat out here that I was a liar for stating the mortality rate for myocarditis from the report Dr. Long shared in her assessment.  

This is how I know ones like Blackbird,  Dialamah et al, will reject her statements above. Based on nothing but willful ignorance, of course.

Edited March 24, 2022 by Goddess

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

it was entirely sensible & realistic by Trudeau's stated objectives

It was only sensible and realistic by fascist standards.

By Trudeau's own stated principles the PM should have met with the protesters and talked them, like he said that the Indian gov't should do in one of his virtue signalling rants. 

[Dougie93]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

It was only sensible and realistic by fascist standards.

By Trudeau's own stated principles the PM should have met with the protesters and talked them, like he said that the Indian gov't should do in one of his virtue signalling rants. 

those are theoretical concerns, so entirely pragmatic for Trudeau to disregard them

[taxme]

26 minutes ago, Goddess said:

C19 VACCINE INJURY - A short film by NOT ON THE BEEB (Viewer discretion advised) (brandnewtube.com)

^^^  Why it should be a personal decision made between you and your doctor, based on your own personal risk and informed consent, as has been the case with medical procedures and interventions for decades and enshrined in the Hippocratic Oath. ^^^

Where there is this much risk of permanent disability and death, there must be choice.

This is what the truckers are fighting FOR and some of you here are fighting AGAINST.

We now have to wonder as to what did the truckers gain by their actions? Maybe it brought some attention to the whole covid lie and hoax, but it would appear as though they got nothing out of it but arrests. Marxist dictator Trudeau gave them the finger and he got away with it. 

Now, in cities like Calgary and Edmonton, the city mayors have now made it pretty much illegal to peacefully demonstrate. So much for the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which is supposed to guarantee the right to peacefully demonstrate. Slowly but surely, Canada is fast becoming more and more communist like every day. Our traitorous politicians refuse to abide by the COR. They appear to despise the COR. 

The covid lie and hoax was the beginning of the end for rights and freedoms in Canada as we once knew them. Watch out this coming fall. These traitors are not finished with us just yet even though they have been gracious enough to give us back a little freedom for now. Premier Ford is looking at doing the same thing in Ontario also. These political leaders really must hate Canada and Canadians. They always appear to have such contempt for we the peasants. ?

 

[Goddess]

11 minutes ago, Goddess said:

This is how I know ones like Blackbird,  Dialamah et al, will reject her statements above. Based on nothing but willful ignorance, of course.

Gawsh, I still shake my head at how these ones jumped on the bashing bandwagon when I stated these exact myocarditis stats, calling me a liar because they prefer to reject the information from the National Library of medicine in favour of believing the CBC when it tells them that myocarditis in children and young adults is "no big deal".

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

those are theoretical concerns, so entirely pragmatic for Trudeau to disregard them

Finish this sentence for me:

The government's right to beat peaceful, innocent people and unilaterally freeze their banks accounts in the name of political expedience is a fact of life in Canada now, just as it is/was in every other [free, democratic society] or [fascist dictatorship].