Trucker's Convoy

[DogOnPorch]

As the common chant went:

One passport to rule them all and in darkness bind them.

[Zeitgeist]

Trudeau, Freeland, and their backers don’t have science behind them.  They’ve taken advantage of fear and power to ram through a horrifying and fascistic agenda with the assistance, advice, and pressure of an unelected body, the World Economic Forum.  Bill Gates said on the weekend that getting natural immunity from getting Omicron is better protection than vaccination, so why are you stripping the rights of unvaccinated and trying to criminalize people who protest your draconian policies, Trudeau?

 

[eyeball]

24 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

As the common chant went:

One passport to rule them all and in darkness bind them.

And the sign said you got to have a membership card to get inside...ugh!

Shoulda put the long-haired freaky people in charge of the world.

Edited February 24, 2022 by eyeball

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

And the sign said you got to have a membership card to get inside...ugh!

Shoulda put the long-haired freaky people in charge of the world.

I believe they are.

[DogOnPorch]

I mean do you REALLY want to show your "papers"??

Really?

Think about it.

[Faramir]

3 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

I was a Liberal once

many years ago

when Pierre Trudeau was Canadian Caesar

and even tho it is his own son leading the party ?

PET himself would say this position is untenable, and in fact sinking the ship

I grew up with liberal parents.  Everything was always some one else's fault with them.  They hated Vanderzalm.  Everything was so simple.  Just increase wages and all will be well.  I soon saw that these goldilocks ideas, though maybe with good intentions, did not reflect reality. Things are not simple and not simple to fix.

[Faramir]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

agreed

but I am Generation X

we are socially conservative compared to our elders

I was a Gen X Latchkey Kid from a broken home

my lunatic Boomer mother walked out on my father

on Christmas Day

thus was my first step on the path to being a conservative

I drew from my Nova Scotia grandparents instead

devout Christians on the Evangeline Trail

 

I'm confused as to what is gen X.  I thought it was those of us born in the 1970s.  I don't know about socially conservative.  Even Bible believing kids these days buy into the whole "homophobic" idea.  My daughters included.  They think it says its wrong somewhere in the Bible, but think its pretty harmless.

[Faramir]

47 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I think there comes a point where hatred is as useful at controlling someone as fear is - swinging back and forth between the two doesn't seem to be working.  Trudeau will always be under your skin no matter what because that's where you've chosen to put him.  He certainly doesn't have to waste any time or effort trying to convince anyone who hates him - it only gives him the freedom to ignore you.  If so many conservatives weren't so quick and obvious about playing their hate card it might pressure him to be more placative hence more accommodating.

Oh so Trudeau's clownish behaviors is OUR fault.  Got it.

[Zeitgeist]

Ha, my guess is that the WEF is run by China.  Perhaps when Putin and Xi met, Putin said he’d invade Ukraine at the same time that Xi would impose surveillance totalitarianism on Canada.  The Freedom Convoy provided the excuse to impose the Emergencies Act.  Of course if it had passed through the Senate we’d still be living under it as the world turned its attention to Ukraine.  It’s also made Trudeau look hypocritical as he tries to say the Canadian government is trying to protect democracy in Ukraine.  Is that it?  Destabilize Canada and now the US internally with a compromised president at the helm and a compromised PM in Canada?

The Olympics also seem to be a favourite time for the planning of such destabilization.  People are watching the games…

Edited February 24, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Faramir said:

I grew up with liberal parents.  Everything was always some one else's fault with them.  They hated Vanderzalm.  Everything was so simple.  Just increase wages and all will be well.  I soon saw that these goldilocks ideas, though maybe with good intentions, did not reflect reality. Things are not simple and not simple to fix.

yeah, same

my parents ideology just didn't withstand logic

it was all feelings and posing, no logic

[Dougie93]

hence why the protests are only going to get bigger and more desperate from here

because the Canadian economy is now a basket case

and Russia & China are moving to brink of World War Three

and the Liberals have now undermined the currency, the banking system, confidence in Canada as a rational actor

inflation running amok as they do

so I would expect the Canadian economy to implode at some point in the not too distant future

that tends to cause the desperate population to take to the streets in a panic

[DogOnPorch]

14 minutes ago, Faramir said:

I grew up with liberal parents.  Everything was always some one else's fault with them.  They hated Vanderzalm.  Everything was so simple.  Just increase wages and all will be well.  I soon saw that these goldilocks ideas, though maybe with good intentions, did not reflect reality. Things are not simple and not simple to fix.

 

Remember the Zalm's roadside attraction? Fantasy Gardens! The big windmill on No. 5 Road.

 

 

[Dougie93]

 now Canadians are caught in a trap

either you go broke from rising prices do to runaway inflation

or you go broke by mortgage rates going through the roof to contain runaway inflation

[Zeitgeist]

The central banks will have to hike rates at some point because of all the talk of coming rate hikes.  They can use Ukraine as the excuse to postpone, but they’ll have to do at least, say, 25 basis points soon.  That could burst big bubbles.  The only worthwhile economic measures I could see giving immediate relief is scrapping carbon taxes on fuel, lifting vaccine mandates on truckers, and deregulating resource development.

We also need a sense of the pandemic ending and a great reopening.  That’s where Trudeau has totally blown it. When we should be celebrating reopening and dancing in the streets, Trudeau instead brought in the Emergencies Act to beat down protests for freedom and the lifting of mandates. How stupid is he?  He’s missing an easy opportunity to stimulate consumer spending through reopening.  Trudeau brought a dark cloud over reopening celebrations.  He really is foolish.

Edited February 24, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Faramir]

33 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Ha, my guess is that the WEF is run by China.  Perhaps when Putin and Xi met, Putin said he’d invade Ukraine at the same time that Xi would impose surveillance totalitarianism on Canada.  The Freedom Convoy provided the excuse to impose the Emergencies Act.  Of course if it had passed through the Senate we’d still be living under it as the world turned its attention to Ukraine.  It’s also made Trudeau look hypocritical as he tries to say the Canadian government is trying to protect democracy in Ukraine.  Is that it?  Destabilize Canada and now the US internally with a compromised president at the helm and a compromised PM in Canada?

The Olympics also seem to be a favourite time for the planning of such destabilization.  People are watching the games…

I am glad that Russia and China are working together openly.  For the pro China crowd maybe it will make them take a step back and see that maybe China is not a great trading partner or partner at all on the world stage.  

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Faramir said:

I am glad that Russia and China are working together openly.  For the pro China crowd maybe it will make them take a step back and see that maybe China is not a great trading partner or partner at all on the world stage.  

 

I was just going to post that. 

We built Red China into this Frankenstein...well it's out of the ol' lab. Literally.

[Faramir]

24 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Remember the Zalm's roadside attraction? Fantasy Gardens! The big windmill on No. 5 Road.

 

 

Yes I do even though I wasn't particularly political at the time.  I was a teenager and it wasn't until grade 12 I shifted from bleeding heart liberalism to the conservative camp.  Was very much a Churchill fan.

[DogOnPorch]

16 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

 now Canadians are caught in a trap

either you go broke from rising prices do to runaway inflation

or you go broke by mortgage rates going through the roof to contain runaway inflation

 

Those with great debt will hurt...yes. Our streets are already filled with homeless.

[Faramir]

17 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

 now Canadians are caught in a trap

either you go broke from rising prices do to runaway inflation

or you go broke by mortgage rates going through the roof to contain runaway inflation

Thing is much is not in control of even our government.  It depends on what the Federal Reserve does.  The last thing they want to see is defaults on mortgages so they will use every trick in the book to keep interest rates down.  Inflation is the ugly one.  Feeding my family is more and more difficult.  We don't buy steak or roasts anymore.  

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Faramir said:

I am glad that Russia and China are working together openly.  For the pro China crowd maybe it will make them take a step back and see that maybe China is not a great trading partner or partner at all on the world stage.  

but Canada is totally reliant on China to buy Canada's massive debt

if Canada loses China, interest rates start rising out of control

[Faramir]

3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

I was just going to post that. 

We built Red China into this Frankenstein...well it's out of the ol' lab. Literally.

Yep thanks to Nixon Clinton and Bush.  Bush did nothing when in 2004 they found out they had a mole in the FBI sending naval technology to China.  He could have confronted China but too many Congressmen are getting rich off China.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Faramir said:

Thing is much is not in control of even our government.  It depends on what the Federal Reserve does.  The last thing they want to see is defaults on mortgages so they will use every trick in the book to keep interest rates down.  Inflation is the ugly one.  Feeding my family is more and more difficult.  We don't buy steak or roasts anymore.  

 

5% and climbing. Yes...ditching of all idiot carbon taxes should be immediate.

Edited February 24, 2022 by DogOnPorch

[Faramir]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

but Canada is totally reliant on China to buy Canada's massive debt

if Canada loses China, interest rates start rising out of control

??? I admit I am quite ignorant on who owns are debt.  For the USA it is much easier.  Just default on China's debt.  What are they going to do - go to war?  

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Faramir said:

Yep thanks to Nixon Clinton and Bush.  Bush did nothing when in 2004 they found out they had a mole in the FBI sending naval technology to China.  He could have confronted China but too many Congressmen are getting rich off China.

 

They were merely local players back in the Nam days.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Faramir said:

Thing is much is not in control of even our government.  It depends on what the Federal Reserve does.  The last thing they want to see is defaults on mortgages so they will use every trick in the book to keep interest rates down.  Inflation is the ugly one.  Feeding my family is more and more difficult.  We don't buy steak or roasts anymore.  

the Fed doesn't buy Canada's bonds to keep Canada's interest rates down

the Fed buys American bonds to keep America's interest rates down

Canada however is not bailed out by the Fed

so Canada sells debt to China to keep Canadian interest rates down

this is how China exerts influence over Ottawa