How to end America's Cultural/Civil War

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Roushy said:

Yes it is. I can objectively criticize both parties equally for the same infractions. You know, like a rational adult? 

 

Right...I have a bridge in NYC for sale. Interested?

[Michael Hardner]

48 minutes ago, Roushy said:

Yes it is. I can objectively criticize both parties equally for the same infractions. You know, like a rational adult? 

What kind of black magic is this ???

[Roushy]

2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Right...I have a bridge in NYC for sale. Interested?

Your bias won’t even allow you to conceive of the concept, or what? Try this one on for size. Trump was a horrible President and a horrible person. He was a phony “populist.” Biden is also a phony “populist.” He’s not immune to the persuasion of the special interests. As much as they both suck, Biden wins easily in a relative comparison, which isn’t saying much. A rock would also win that comparison easily. That’s what an objective assessment looks like. Facts matter. If you can’t be honest and deal with realities, then don’t vote. 

[Roushy]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

What kind of black magic is this ???

Right!!? Foreign concept to so many! Lol 

[DogOnPorch]

3 hours ago, Roushy said:

Right!!? Foreign concept to so many! Lol 

 

Well, call me Diogenes.... The search continues...

[WestCanMan]

22 hours ago, Roushy said:

Biased people are so unbelievably dumb. ?

Don't be so hard on yourself but at the same time, try to keep up with your newly found sense of honesty.

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It’s the GOP that’s constantly mad that people have freedoms they don’t like. Abortion, gay marriage, special bathrooms, the right to vote… etc. Your comment is remarkably stupid. 

All Americans have the right to vote, and that right is actually protected when elections are fair and honest. Allowing people without ID to vote, mass mailing ballots without signature matching, and allowing non-citizens to vote are actually ways of diminishing the voting power of Americans. Lesson learned - don't get this one wrong again Roushy.

Your other 'issues' are oversimplified (no doubt so that leftists can get a rudimentary understanding of them) and therefor not worthy of comment.

 

[Infidel Dog]

23 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Your other 'issues' are oversimplified

Seriously man...

I wouldn't mind taking on the issue of whether abortion law, for instance is a case of taking or giving of rights. But if I do this thread degenerates into something different than its intended topic.

The "special bathrooms" item made me smile. Which right to "special bathrooms" is he talking about? Does he mean the "special bathrooms" like the one in Virginia where the male student in the dress anally raped a young girl in that "special bathroom?" Is Roush worried because the GOP objects to that kid rapist's "special rights?"

Edited November 8, 2021 by Infidel Dog

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Is Roush worried because the GOP objects to that kid rapist's "special rights?"

He's definitely worried about something. I don't even wanna think about it. 

[Roushy]

43 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Don't be so hard on yourself but at the same time, try to keep up with your newly found sense of honesty.

All Americans have the right to vote, and that right is actually protected when elections are fair and honest. Allowing people without ID to vote, mass mailing ballots without signature matching, and allowing non-citizens to vote are actually ways of diminishing the voting power of Americans. Lesson learned - don't get this one wrong again Roushy.

Your other 'issues' are oversimplified (no doubt so that leftists can get a rudimentary understanding of them) and therefor not worthy of comment.

 

More mindless, ultra-biased drivel from a cog in the propaganda machine. Keep fueling the machine and gassing it with all the logical fallacies you subscribe to like a fucking moron. So easily persuaded to be willfully ignorant. Shut the fuck up with your endless conspiracies about election fraud, you fucking idiot. 

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, Roushy said:

More mindless, ultra-biased drivel from a cog in the propaganda machine. Keep fueling the machine and gassing it with all the logical fallacies you subscribe to like a fucking moron. So easily persuaded to be willfully ignorant. Shut the fuck up with your endless conspiracies about election fraud, you fucking idiot. 

More mindless, ultra-biased drivel from a cog in CNN's propaganda machine. Keep fuelling the machine and gassing it with all the harebrained fallacies you subscribe to like a typical leftist. So easily persuaded to be willfully ignorant. Shut the fuck up with your endless conspiracies about how requiring ID = discriminating against coloured people because only poor white people are smart enough to get ID, you fucking racist. 

[Charles Anthony]

Folks, 

Do not post personal attacks and do not even think of posting foul language ever again here. 

[ironstone]

On 11/7/2021 at 5:41 PM, Roushy said:

Biased people are so unbelievably dumb. ? It’s the GOP that’s constantly mad that people have freedoms they don’t like. Abortion, gay marriage, special bathrooms, the right to vote… etc. Your comment is remarkably stupid. 

I'm pretty sure there were plenty of abortions , gay marriages etc during Trump's term. No real impediments to the right to vote either. Special bathrooms? Male washrooms, female washrooms. How many different kinds do you guys want?

 

How about the right to free speech and the right to bear arms?

Are you capable of making your point without hurling insults?

[Roushy]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

I'm pretty sure there were plenty of abortions , gay marriages etc during Trump's term. No real impediments to the right to vote either. Special bathrooms? Male washrooms, female washrooms. How many different kinds do you guys want?

 

How about the right to free speech and the right to bear arms?

Are you capable of making your point without hurling insults?

Wow, you’re slow! Lol Who said there weren’t abortions, etc during Trump’s term? Fucking idiot. The point is, you conservatives pretend you’re champions of freedom, yet you sit there constantly whining about all of the freedoms you don’t like other people having like some dipshit wannabe dictators. Then, you want to pretend you’re victims and cry about the fake war against the first and second amendment. You’re too damn stupid to be in this conversation. 

Edited November 9, 2021 by Roushy

[August1991]

On 11/8/2021 at 9:26 PM, Roushy said:

Wow, you’re slow! Lol Who said there weren’t abortions, etc during Trump’s term? Fucking idiot. The point is, you conservatives pretend you’re champions of freedom, yet you sit there constantly whining about all of the freedoms you don’t like other people having like some dipshit wannabe dictators. Then, you want to pretend you’re victims and cry about the fake war against the first and second amendment. You’re too damn stupid to be in this conversation. 

Roushy,

As a foreigner, you miss the point. It is not about "champions of freedom". It is how much to restrict individual freedom.

[August1991]

On 11/7/2021 at 12:47 AM, Infidel Dog said:

And a cantaloupe is a melon. I don't get your point.

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America is a success because it is a federal state, a collection of countries: California is a country - like Canada, about 40 million people.

Among the top 20 or so countries by GDP per capita, all have small population - except the US. Why? The US is not a single country. It is a federal state - a collection of sovereign states.  

 

[Infidel Dog]

Technically it's more like this:

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A federation (also known as a federal state) is a political entity characterized by a union of partially self-governing provinces, states, or other regions under a central federal government (federalism).

But yeah I'm not sure if we're arguing and if we are what it's about.

My thinking is America is successful as a shared power between the federal government and the states. There has always been a flux between which part of that equation holds what or how much power. The "Build Back Better" goofs are pushing hard for one central power lately. I think that's a bad idea.

Not sure but I think you might share that opinion. So again...are we supposed to be arguing? What about then?

[WestCanMan]

Honestly it seems like CNN is dying a slow death now. 

The death of radical, biased, divisive media will go a long way towards healing America's wounds.

[DogOnPorch]

22 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Honestly it seems like CNN is dying a slow death now. 

The death of radical, biased, divisive media will go a long way towards healing America's wounds.

 

I'm sure they only survive via being forced to accept CNN in most TV cable packages.

[WestCanMan]

36 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

I'm sure they only survive via being forced to accept CNN in most TV cable packages.

I wonder what percent of their viewership is from the TVs in airports, banks, and offices that just have 'news' on as a distraction. 

They get about half a million viewers, I bet that 5-10% of that is just from business owners who want to have a TV on throughout the day but they don't want to get looted.

[August1991]

On 11/14/2021 at 3:45 AM, Infidel Dog said:

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My thinking is America is successful as a shared power between the federal government and the states. There has always been a flux between which part of that equation holds what or how much power. The "Build Back Better" goofs are pushing hard for one central power lately. I think that's a bad idea.

Not sure but I think you might share that opinion. So again...are we supposed to be arguing? What about then?

Small governments are successful. Places like New Zealand, Luxembourg, Norway, Singapore.

The US is successful because it is a collection (federation?) of small governments. As even Obama said, it is neither red states nor blue states: it is a united states.

[Infidel Dog]

Don't necessarily disagree. What you're calling "is" may be starting to be more a "was" though.