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That is why, it is of benefit to authoritarian governments that covid restrictions remain in place, “iregardless” of real conditions on the ground.

Another problem is that viruses, or virii as it were, never fully go away. They just go hide someplace. 

The only real way to make the virus go away is, stop looking at it.

And now that we have all the very best detection systems and computerized...

aaauuuaaagaaahhh...

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... therefor it is those governments who have no problem extending covid restrictions “out of an abundance of caution” who demonstrate their innate authoritarianism. We must identify them as such. A separate political class that needs to be shunned, defeated.

We have seen whats happening in Britain, where the government was held accountable to the laws of the land, in as much is reasonable and proven by law.

The government is committing illegal acts, as are corporations by dismissing people. 

 

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45 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

... therefor it is those governments who have no problem extending covid restrictions “out of an abundance of caution” who demonstrate their innate authoritarianism. We must identify them as such. A separate political class that needs to be shunned, defeated.

We have seen whats happening in Britain, where the government was held accountable to the laws of the land, in as much is reasonable and proven by law.

The government is committing illegal acts, as are corporations by dismissing people.

Well look at this, at some other places on this (same) Earth: reopening mass events. That was in April, by the way. The happily cautious "travel from Wuhan" crowd would very happily make the country into a world renown Covid-zoo with scared populace waking up and going to bed watching The Scary Number in their 24/7 mandated masks, while the whole planet has moved on.

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The caution bunch makes all the right decisions of course... only at completely wrong times. Where was the world-famous "abundance of caution" in early 2020 when it was critical for the first phase of the pandemic? Give a sledgehammer to an idiot and expect a pleasant surprise.

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Now there's a question whether a treatment with short term protection against infection and transmission constitutes "a vaccine" in the common meaning of the word? And another one is, where can it be tested? Where is an objective, impartial and independent arbiter here that takes in consideration interests of the citizens?

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Tenth Ottawa Senators player tested positive for Covid. This is probably one of the most q-vaccinated places in the country. Now, how would this situation be different from a fully q-vaccinated office thanks to intimidation and coercion?

Why would it be different? Who can show and explain why an NHL team can have 30% to 50% level of infection, while a q-vaccinated office would not?

And if it could not be explained and proven, what was the point of intimidation and coercion?

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1 hour ago, myata said:

Tenth Ottawa Senators player tested positive for Covid. This is probably one of the most q-vaccinated places in the country. Now, how would this situation be different from a fully q-vaccinated office thanks to intimidation and coercion?

Why would it be different? Who can show and explain why an NHL team can have 30% to 50% level of infection, while a q-vaccinated office would not?

And if it could not be explained and proven, what was the point of intimidation and coercion?

How about a 2000 % better chance of not getting sick enough to be hospitalized.

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11 minutes ago, myata said:

Nope, only a lame excuse. An expert (without s) has no problem explaining their decisions in a clear and meaningful language. So again, what was the point of intimidation and coercion if it appears to spread just as easily in highly q-vaccinated places?

Infected unvaccinated are 20 times more likely to wind up in hospital than the infected vaccinated. If that isn't clear and meaningful enough, there is definitely a comprehension problem for those who can't understand. 

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5 minutes ago, Aristides said:

If that isn't clear and meaningful enough,

Not so fast, so "probability to wind up in hospital" justifies state-sponsored intimidation and coercion? Just to make sure there's no misunderstanding.

And, if my recollection is correct (that naughty memory thing) it was something about "safe environments" last time. What, the conductor changed the tune?

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6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Infected unvaccinated are 20 times more likely to wind up in hospital than the infected vaccinated. If that isn't clear and meaningful enough, there is definitely a comprehension problem for those who can't understand. 

Where? For what time period. I question your imagined stats. They're phony, if not outright false.

However...

Do a search in any search engine on the phrase "Died Suddenly".

It's everywhere. Why is that, do you think? What explains it? It's not Covid. Not the virus, anyway.

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There's a reason Pfizer and Merk copied the protease inhibitor mechanic in Ivermectin to come out with a quick more expensive pill.

The truth about the problems with the vaccine is leaking out. Eventually it will be common knowledge to even the most gullible of the gullibles.

Big pharma will then move on to pills. They'll have their stenographers in the corporate and state run media blast the therapeutics  that are already out there having success. The media will damn them with spurious, vilifications and defamations while social media block any fact based defense. This will continue to prevent useful treatments  from becoming accessible, then Big Pharma will flood the market with their own adaptations like Pfizer and Merk are already doing.

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22 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Where? For what time period. I question your imagined stats. They're phony, if not outright false.

However...

Do a search in any search engine on the phrase "Died Suddenly".

It's everywhere. Why is that, do you think? What explains it? It's not Covid. Not the virus, anyway.

BC. Right now.

 

 

 
 
Cases

COVID-19 infections in B.C. by vaccination status, adjusted by population and age

 
 
Cases Per 100k/week
Hospitalizations Per 100K/week
Unvaccinated
255
23.7
Partially vaccinated
69.7
8.25
Fully vaccinated
31.4
1.3
 
BCCDC. Not my imagination.
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20 minutes ago, myata said:

Not so fast, so "probability to wind up in hospital" justifies state-sponsored intimidation and coercion? Just to make sure there's no misunderstanding.

And, if my recollection is correct (that naughty memory thing) it was something about "safe environments" last time. What, the conductor changed the tune?

Ya, it does. Hospitals are needed for more than indulging antivaxxers who want to clog them up.

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2 minutes ago, myata said:

You understand that under the false premise and sense of security of "safety" those 100% vaccinated offices can be a perfect vehicle for spreading the infection into the community? Will someone take responsibility for this, like for travel from Wuhan? Is anyone hopeful here?

Much better than unvaccinated people spreading infection into an unvaccinated community. Why won't you take any responsibility for that?

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17 minutes ago, Aristides said:

BC. Right now.

I assume you're referring to Doctor Bonnie Henry's release of a model based on new cases in October.

Even if you believe them they're a big fat, so what, in reference to the world or totality of infections since April 2020 or their fluctuations over that time period.

Explain this one from Kamloops to me BC boy.

Citing high vaccination rate and strict protocols, Interior Health surprised by RIH COVID-19 outbreak

Would you like to see some other stats (not models) from other parts of the world that contradict Doctor Bonnie's model?

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26 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Much better than unvaccinated people spreading infection into an unvaccinated community

It's plain scary that people with this quality of reasoning are trying to make important decisions for us. This is becoming a scary place, really. Dr exspert Charlie Smith scary.

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1 minute ago, Winston said:

Patients are responsible for hospital resource management, since when?

But of course who else, after raking hundreds of thousands in compensations and millions in golden parachutes. They are just regular "employees" and the responsibility must be somewhere else. Where, a good question in an autopilot democracy.

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3 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

I assume you're referring to Doctor Bonnie Henry's release of a model based on new cases in October.

Even if you believe them they're a big fat, so what, in reference to the world or totality of infections since April 2020 or their fluctuations over that time period.

Explain this one from Kamloops to me BC boy.

Citing high vaccination rate and strict protocols, Interior Health surprised by RIH COVID-19 outbreak

Would you like to see some other stats (not models) from other parts of the world that contradict Doctor Bonnie's model?

No, those were the actual numbers on Nov 13.

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