The Lawsuits

[BeaverFever]

18 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I'm confused. You're accusing me of cultist behaviour while you flame me for not always being on board with some sort of cult of Fox.

Projection, the stolen burn, the kind of irony that says "Hi, I'm dumb," all behind the point and scree. The calling card of the Prog-pod.

You’re a puppet the Cult of Trump, Einstein. When your most trusted sources fail to flatter Dear Leader you stop trusting them.  There is no possible scenario where you could ever accept any unflattering news about Trump because you have been brainwashed to believe he is a divine and infallible being and self-authonenticating. You must have had a very religious upbringing which you’re trying to replace with your political devotion 

[Infidel Dog]

Again projection and the point and scree. Do you guys never get tired of being one-trick ponies?

[BeaverFever]

25 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Again projection and the point and scree. Do you guys never get tired of being one-trick ponies?

Do you guys never get tired if baseless accusations and false predictions that never get proven true?  
 

I know I know you’re convinced that evidence of your crackpot conspiracy will turn up any day now....it’s probably in the same box as Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate, footage of Hillary murdering all those people, the receipts for all that uranium she sold to Russia, and a map to the hidden entrance to the pizzagate basement pedo torture chamber. Then you’ll really show us! Then you’ll show them all!

Edited November 10, 2020 by BeaverFever

[Infidel Dog]

3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Do you guys never get tired if baseless accusations and false predictions that never get proven true?  

Well if you want to get serious show me the specific "baseless accusation" or "false prediction" you think I made and I'll show you why you continue to be the King of Wrong.

[Infidel Dog]

In fact, I'll help you Beave (I think you need it). I noticed earlier you were suggesting there was no reason to be suspicious of the voting machines.

Would you like to have that conversation with me?

Give me all you've got on that. Not much, I'll bet. A lot of angry rhetoric behind point and scree.

Want to see some specific reasons for wanting to delay the count long enough to get into that proprietary software and check the logs.

Edited November 10, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[sharkman]

Wow, leave it to Beave...

[taxme]

18 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Trump claims he won therefore “there can be no doubt about it” that he won. No evidence required lol

 

Oh and speaking of Fox News you’ll have to explain this:

 

Fox News cuts away from Kayleigh McEnany news conference after she alleges vote fraud with no evidence

 

From the Fox News studio, anchor Neil Cavuto cut in to end Fox’s broadcast of the video feed from the Republican National Committee headquarters. “Whoa, whoa, whoa,” he said. “I just think we have to be very clear that she’s charging the other side as welcoming fraud and welcoming illegal voting. Unless she has more details to back that up, I can’t in good countenance continue showing you this.”

 

 

The republican party has plenty of RINO'S in it's own party. Mitt Romney being one of those RINO traitors. FOX NEWS is pretty much represented with many democrats who should be in the non-democratic party and not the republican party. Chris Wallace being one of them also. Cavuto appears to be another RINO. 

There are now many whistle blowers coming forward to say that they have seen many irregularities being committed by the pro democratic ballot counters in  many democratic states. There appears to be quite a lot of vote fraud going on here. The are many lawsuits going on in many states now and we will just have to wait and see what happens. Until then. 

[BeaverFever]

46 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Well if you want to get serious show me the specific "baseless accusation" or "false prediction" you think I made and I'll show you why you continue to be the King of Wrong.

I alluded to several of them in my last post. Did your homeschooling not teach you to read all the way to end of the sentence?

[BeaverFever]

18 minutes ago, taxme said:

The republican party has plenty of RINO'S in it's own party. Mitt Romney being one of those RINO traitors. FOX NEWS is pretty much represented with many democrats who should be in the non-democratic party and not the republican party. Chris Wallace being one of them also. Cavuto appears to be another RINO. 

There are now many whistle blowers coming forward to say that they have seen many irregularities being committed by the pro democratic ballot counters in  many democratic states. There appears to be quite a lot of vote fraud going on here. The are many lawsuits going on in many states now and we will just have to wait and see what happens. Until then. 

Yes we will wait and see. Your accusations will all fail and then we’ll have to hear about how all the judges and everyone else is in on the conspiracy  
 

Admit it, there’s no hypothetical scenario where you guys would ever admit to being wrong no matter how badly these legal actions  fail or how many Republicans tell you it’s settled and there’s no fraud.  No it will always be your “scree” about RINOs and conspiracies. 

[Infidel Dog]

5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

I alluded to several of them in my last post. Did your homeschooling not teach you to read all the way to end of the sentence?

Those "allusions" were meant for me were they? Pizzagate, the Obama birth certificate  conspiracy theory and such?

Well, if that's the case and that's all you've got, you remain as always...

I've never pushed those. Try again.

Did you really think I'd forgotten your theme song? 

Edited November 10, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

Ronna McDaniel Presents 131 Affidavits, 2,800 Incident Reports of Alleged Voter Fraud in MI: Media Still Demands 'Evidence'

Here are the actual charges in the lawsuit:

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3. In summary, this Complaint raises numerous instances of fraud, including, but not limited to:

a. Defendants systematically processed and counted ballots from voters whose name failed to appear in either the Qualified Voter File (QVF) or in the supplemental sheets. When a voter’s name could not be found, the election worker assigned the ballot to a random name already in the QVF to a person who had not voted.

b. Defendants instructed election workers to not verify signatures on absentee ballots, to backdate absentee ballots, and to process such ballots regardless of their validity.

c. After election officials announced the last absentee ballots had been received, another batch of unsecured and unsealed ballots, without envelopes, arrived in trays at the TCF Center. There were tens of thousands of these absentee ballots, and apparently every ballot was counted and attributed only to Democratic candidates.

d. Defendants instructed election workers to process ballots that appeared after the election deadline and to falsely report that those ballots had been received prior to November 3, 2020 deadline.

e. Defendants systematically used false information to process ballots, such as using incorrect or false birthdays. Many times, the election workers inserted new names into the QVF after the election and recorded these new voters as having a birthdate of 1/1/1900.

f. On a daily basis leading up to the election, City of Detroit election workers and 4 Great Lakes Justice Center employees coached voters to vote for Joe Biden and the Democrat party. These workers and employees encouraged voters to do a straight Democrat ballot. These election workers and employees went over to the voting booths with voters in order to watch them vote and coach them for whom to vote.

g. Unsecured ballots arrived at the TCF Center loading garage, not in sealed ballot boxes, without any chain of custody, and without envelopes.

h. Defendant election officials and workers refused to record challenges to their processes and removed challengers from the site if they politely voiced a challenge.

i. After poll challengers started discovering the fraud taking place at the TCF Center, Defendant election officials and workers locked credentialed challengers out of the counting room so they could not observe the process, during which time tens of thousands of ballots were processed.

j. Defendant election officials and workers allowed ballots to be duplicated by hand without allowing poll challengers to check if the duplication was accurate. In fact, election officials and workers repeatedly obstructed poll challengers from observing. Defendants permitted thousands of ballots to be filled out by hand and duplicated on site without oversight from poll challengers.

 

Edited November 10, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Ronna McDaniel Presents 131 Affidavits, 2,800 Incident Reports of Alleged Voter Fraud in MI: Media Still Demands 'Evidence'

Here are the actual charges in the lawsuit:

 

Is that the “evidence” for this failed attempt?

 

Michigan Court of Claims denies Trump campaign lawsuit's requests

 

In an opinion issued Monday, Michigan Court of Claims Judge Cynthia Stephens denied requests made by the President Donald Trump's campaign in a recent election lawsuit.

While the lawsuit claimed election officials should block certification of election results from Wayne County, Stephens cited a lack of evidence to support the claim.

“The Trump campaign’s lawsuit demonstrates either a failed attempt by plaintiffs to cobble together a legitimate claim, or their clear lack of understanding of Michigan’s election laws," Stephens said. "The Court correctly described the campaign’s claims as nothing more than hearsay, and our office will ask the Court to dismiss this meritless lawsuit. The will of voters is what matters in this election, and their ballots in Michigan have been counted in a transparent, fair and accurate manner."

https://wwmt.com/news/local/michigan-court-of-claims-denies-trump-campaign-lawsuits-requests

 

.....or this one?

 

Trump team tries to appeal Michigan ruling, fails to provide necessary documents

 

The Trump campaign legal team is trying to appeal a Michigan court ruling on an elections lawsuit from last week, but it botched its initial attempt at a filing.

Attorneys will need to provide a few more documents if they want the Michigan Court of Appeals to actually hear the case. 

 

New documents, released by the appellate court in Michigan, tell the Trump campaign its attempt to appeal a Michigan Court of Claims ruling is deficient because it needs to provide more paperwork. The documents, including the actual order of the Court of Claims, are routine and required for any appeal. 
 

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/09/trump-michigan-lawsuit-appeal-election/6222914002/

 

Honestly it’s hard to keep track of all the trump failures 

[taxme]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Yes we will wait and see. Your accusations will all fail and then we’ll have to hear about how all the judges and everyone else is in on the conspiracy  
 

Admit it, there’s no hypothetical scenario where you guys would ever admit to being wrong no matter how badly these legal actions  fail or how many Republicans tell you it’s settled and there’s no fraud.  No it will always be your “scree” about RINOs and conspiracies. 

Well, most judges are leftist leaning activist democratic appointed judges and pretty much all of them are involved in this coup attempt conspiracy to take this election fraudulently away from Donald Trump. FOX NEWS keeps pointing this out all of the time especially in the evening. RINO's and conspiracies do exist. But let the lawsuits ride and let's see what happens. 

[taxme]

3 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Ronna McDaniel Presents 131 Affidavits, 2,800 Incident Reports of Alleged Voter Fraud in MI: Media Still Demands 'Evidence'

Here are the actual charges in the lawsuit:

 

You are dealing with someone who does not believe in conspiracies or that the democrats would ever cheat and lie in an election. Show this guy a million affidavits and he still will not believe it. Leftist liberals/democrats are like that. Show then their errors and the proof and they will still deny those errors and the truth. Liberalism is a terrible disease and this guy appears to have this liberal disease big time. 

 

11 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Is that the “evidence” for this failed attempt?

 

Michigan Court of Claims denies Trump campaign lawsuit's requests

 

In an opinion issued Monday, Michigan Court of Claims Judge Cynthia Stephens denied requests made by the President Donald Trump's campaign in a recent election lawsuit.

While the lawsuit claimed election officials should block certification of election results from Wayne County, Stephens cited a lack of evidence to support the claim.

“The Trump campaign’s lawsuit demonstrates either a failed attempt by plaintiffs to cobble together a legitimate claim, or their clear lack of understanding of Michigan’s election laws," Stephens said. "The Court correctly described the campaign’s claims as nothing more than hearsay, and our office will ask the Court to dismiss this meritless lawsuit. The will of voters is what matters in this election, and their ballots in Michigan have been counted in a transparent, fair and accurate manner."

https://wwmt.com/news/local/michigan-court-of-claims-denies-trump-campaign-lawsuits-requests

 

.....or this one?

 

Trump team tries to appeal Michigan ruling, fails to provide necessary documents

 

The Trump campaign legal team is trying to appeal a Michigan court ruling on an elections lawsuit from last week, but it botched its initial attempt at a filing.

Attorneys will need to provide a few more documents if they want the Michigan Court of Appeals to actually hear the case. 

 

New documents, released by the appellate court in Michigan, tell the Trump campaign its attempt to appeal a Michigan Court of Claims ruling is deficient because it needs to provide more paperwork. The documents, including the actual order of the Court of Claims, are routine and required for any appeal. 
 

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/09/trump-michigan-lawsuit-appeal-election/6222914002/

 

Honestly it’s hard to keep track of all the trump failures 

No doubt the Michigan courts are just full of leftist liberal pro democrat judges. What chance does Trump have against those communist judges? 

Honestly, it's hard to keep up on all of the fraud that is coming out against the democratic lying and cheating Biden communist regime. And it will only get bigger. Trump may just have to pull off the 14th Amendment or inact the insurrection act. Either one will work for me against these criminal lying and cheating democrats. Their days are numbered. Trump will win this election. It is all just a matter of time. Start crying now and be done with it. Lol. 

[BeaverFever]

7 minutes ago, taxme said:

You are dealing with someone who does not believe in conspiracies or that the democrats would ever cheat and lie in an election. Show this guy a million affidavits and he still will not believe it. Leftist liberals/democrats are like that. Show then their errors and the proof and they will still deny those errors and the truth. Liberalism is a terrible disease and this guy appears to have this liberal disease big time. 

 

No doubt the Michigan courts are just full of leftist liberal pro democrat judges. What chance does Trump have against those communist judges? 

Honestly, it's hard to keep up on all of the fraud that is coming out against the democratic lying and cheating Biden communist regime. And it will only get bigger. Trump may just have to pull off the 14th Amendment or inact the insurrection act. Either one will work for me against these criminal lying and cheating democrats. Their days are numbered. Trump will win this election. It is all just a matter of time. Start crying now and be done with it. Lol. 

Like I already said:  

 

Admit it, there’s no hypothetical scenario where you guys would ever admit to being wrong no matter how badly these legal actions  fail or how many Republicans tell you it’s settled and there’s no fraud.  No it will always be your “scree” about RINOs and conspiracies. 

[Infidel Dog]

Yeah as always Beave either didn't read or thought we wouldn't read the whole thing.

From his link:

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MIGOP Chairman Laura Cox alleged that the FOIA request was denied due to technicalities.

“This is yet another example of the partisanship that has infected the Michigan Secretary of State. It is painfully obvious that their office is trying to make us jump through hoops by playing dumb, when they know exactly what we’ve requested and where to find it," Cox said. “Michiganders have a right to know what’s going on with Michigan’s elections, and any attempt by the Michigan Secretary of State to impede the investigation of election irregularities in our state gives the perception of an attempted cover-up.”

I've heard Ronna say she'll go all the way to the Supreme court. 5 constitutionalists, 3 Progressives and 1 turncoat republican at the SC the last time I checked. I like Ronna's chances better there than before a Democrat judge in Michigan. Also they'll have a little more time to firm things up.

Apparently sworn witness testimony is worthless in a Michigan court when it's inconvenient. Let's see if that's still the rule before the supremes.

 

 

Edited November 11, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[taxme]

1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

Like I already said:  

 

Admit it, there’s no hypothetical scenario where you guys would ever admit to being wrong no matter how badly these legal actions  fail or how many Republicans tell you it’s settled and there’s no fraud.  No it will always be your “scree” about RINOs and conspiracies. 

You will eventually have to admit that you were wrong for believing in this coup and fraud against President Trump. Do you honestly believe and think that the 72 million people who voted for Trump are going to go along with this coup and fraud? I can guarantee you that there will be blood on the streets of America if these communist democrats try to enforce socialism and communism on them. Maybe here in Canada our comrade politicians have been allowed to turn Canada into an almost socialist/communist country, thanks to the lack of true patriotism in this pathetic country, but Americans will not allow that to ever happen. The american people do believe in freedom and freedom of speech. We do not. My opinion. 

[taxme]

5 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Yeah as always Beave either didn't read or thought we wouldn't read the whole thing.

From his link:

I've heard Ronna say she'll go all the way to the Supreme court. 5 constitutionalists, 3 Progressives and 1 turncoat republican at the SC the last time I checked. I like Ronna's chances better there than before a Democrat judge in Michigan. Also they'll have a little more time to firm things up.

Apparently sworn witness testimony is worthless in a Michigan court when it's inconvenient. Let's see if that's still the rule before the supremes.

 

 

I am pretty sure that this may have to go to the SC. Donald Trump will then keep his presidency. And Trump still can use the 14th Amendment or the Insurrection Act against these communist cheats and liars in the democratic party. One way or the other, the democrats will soon be eating the Trump republican dust. Don't throw those diaper masks away just yet democrats. Lol. 

[Infidel Dog]

I'm watching this video right now of the Michigan vote counters getting training instructions. 

Pretty dodgy stuff:

https://vladtepesblog.com/2020/11/10/us-election-fraud-post-20/

[BeaverFever]

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

You will eventually have to admit that you were wrong for believing in this coup and fraud against President Trump. Do you honestly believe and think that the 72 million people who voted for Trump are going to go along with this coup and fraud? I can guarantee you that there will be blood on the streets of America if these communist democrats try to enforce socialism and communism on them. Maybe here in Canada our comrade politicians have been allowed to turn Canada into an almost socialist/communist country, thanks to the lack of true patriotism in this pathetic country, but Americans will not allow that to ever happen. The american people do believe in freedom and freedom of speech. We do not. My opinion. 

Threatening bloodshed because you lost the election shows you know fuck all about freedom and don’t really give a shit about it. You just want your side to win...at any cost...

[Infidel Dog]

When did a prediction become a threat?

Here have another one. Biden promises to enforce gun grabs. If he does that there will be problems. And yes, it's likely people will get hurt. That's my prediction. 

[Infidel Dog]

I used to just go to Vlad Tepes archives blog because he always found interesting information on the Islamo-fascist threat.

Just for the Hell of it  I clicked his link.

Lots of fascinating stuff on election challenges I wasn't seeing elsewhere:

https://vladtepesblog.com/

Edited November 11, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[sharkman]

So a Michigan court turns the Trump team down(try saying that fast!), eh?  That’s pretty much what was expected.  Looks like the courts are trying to slow them down too.  

Everyone knew that they’d have to take the case to a federal court to get some semblance of objectivity.  I can guarantee you that all of the courts up the chain are keeping a close watch on this.  Apparently a couple of rulings have already been handed down by Scotus.  Which Michigan officials ignored, of course.

But that’s going to add to their massive noncompliance and may even tip the scales of justice against them if it was close without it. 

 

Edited November 11, 2020 by sharkman

[BeaverFever]

Hypothetically spea, what kind of outcome would it take for you to accept the election results and that trump is wrong?

What is a source you would believe?

Because we all know that WHEN his all these phoney fraud claims fail you will all scream “conspiracy!!” at anyone who tells you otherwise no matter how many of them were news sources or officials you previously trusted. 
 

You keep saying the courts will vindicate you and when they don’t you just say the courts are rigged and keep going 

 

Thats why your predictions of violence are threats. Because the right is promising violence if the courts to give them the results they want. You’re not demanding a fair trial or an honest investigation,  you’re demanding to be named the election winner or else bloodshed. 

[sharkman]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Hypothetically spea, what kind of outcome would it take for you to accept the election results and that trump is wrong?

What is a source you would believe?

Because we all know that WHEN his all these phoney fraud claims fail you will all scream “conspiracy!!” at anyone who tells you otherwise no matter how many of them were news sources or officials you previously trusted. 
 

You keep saying the courts will vindicate you and when they don’t you just say the courts are rigged and keep going 

 

Thats why your predictions of violence are threats. Because the right is promising violence if the courts to give them the results they want. You’re not demanding a fair trial or an honest investigation,  you’re demanding to be named the election winner or else bloodshed. 

This is the most dishonest post I've seen on the matter.

Also, I'm confused by the assertion that the right is promising violence at all.  Then that they are promising it if THE COURTS GIVE THEM THE RESULTS THEY WANT.  Perhaps that's a mis-post?  Because otherwise you've lost me, and everyone else, I think. 

To answer your questions at the beginning of your post, I'll accept the results when a federal court reviews the matter and makes a decision on the election.  I'm just speaking for myself, here, but either way I'll hope that the mess that is mail in ballots gets fixed. 

Between the ballots that came in after the deadline of 7 pm November 3rd, and the ballots that were cast from out of the state they voted in, we are talking of probably over 400,000 ballots(a rough estimate on my part from what I've read) that are inadmissible(by existing laws), nationwide.  Justice Alito even sent a ruling to PA to segregate these late ballots and he was ignored.  That's a serious legal issue.  They disobeyed a direct ruling from a Supreme Court Justice.

This is something that you may not be able to recognize, but the Democrats and the Media did not accept the results of the 2016 election ever.  They never accepted it, and for them to now demand that we all accept the 2020 election is laughable.

Edit:  To add to the 400,000 inadmissible ballots, the electronic voting systems that gave a reported 3% of Trump's votes to Biden across at least 28 states, if it turns out to be true, is grounds for prison sentences.

Edited November 11, 2020 by sharkman
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