BeaverFever Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Look through the list of things I mentioned there and let me know what you question. I can even show you video of Nadler and Biden saying that Antifa is just an idea and not an actual group of people. It's freaking absurd. Are religious groups fake too? It’s not an actual group of people. There’s not like an antifa leader or a formal membership. You’re Antifa simply because you say you’re Antifa. Being Antifa is like being a surfer or a vegetarian or a dog lover. You are because you say you are. Now are there surf clubs and vegetarian meet-up groups and doggy playdate groups? Sure, but they’re not the THE entire group, just a small gathering of individuals who want to apply that identity to themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Funny sentiment from you, given the “election fraud” claims you’re making woth ZERO evidence and every state official denying it. What have you said that’s “verified”? Are you trying to suggest that elections are 100% infallible? Never any recorded cases of fraud? Al Gore had his day in court so why does Donald Trump not deserve to be heard if his team can provide evidence that fraud may have occurred in the swing states? Fraud can happen by the way. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/philadelphia-election-judge-admits-to-stuffing-ballot-boxes-for-democrats-in-three-separate-elections/ar-BB14qWhl Another great column by Ann Coulter. https://anncoulter.com/2020/11/11/the-democrats-guide-to-losing-gracefully/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, ironstone said: Are you trying to suggest that elections are 100% infallible? Never any recorded cases of fraud? Al Gore had his day in court so why does Donald Trump not deserve to be heard if his team can provide evidence that fraud may have occurred in the swing states? Fraud can happen by the way. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/philadelphia-election-judge-admits-to-stuffing-ballot-boxes-for-democrats-in-three-separate-elections/ar-BB14qWhl Another great column by Ann Coulter. https://anncoulter.com/2020/11/11/the-democrats-guide-to-losing-gracefully/ No not what I said. But elections don’t get overturned because of a single case. Isolated incidents happen in every election. But there is zero evidence of the organized massive scale fraud that would be required for the hundreds of thousands of votes needed to turn the election to Trump. I am confident that Trumps cases will lose in court. But the problem with saying “let him have his day in court” when there is zero evidence is that you’re basically saying every election loser should drag out the election outcome with litigation even when they don't have evidence of wrongdoing. Every election loser would do it because they have nothing more to lose by trying and can at least be satisfied that they’ve sabotaged the winner’s term in office by fomenting conspiracy theories that they came to power illegitimately America will not survive that as the new normal Al Gores case totally different. He did not sue to claim fraud. NOBODY WAS CLAIMING FRAUD OR IMPROPRIETY. The Florida recount was triggered automatically because there were fewer than 2,000 votes between him and Bush. Bush’s lead narrowed to just 537 after the final official tally. As Bush’s lead narrowed, Bush successfully halted the recount in a republican- dominated supreme court, prevailing in court over Gore’s plea to COUNT EVERY VOTE. And yet Al Gore conceded the election despite disagreeing with the ruling... it was later revealed that had a statewide recount been conducted Gore would have won. Yet for the good of the country he conceded even though he was up against a Republican Supreme Court and Bush’s brother was in charge of the Florida recount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 16 hours ago, BeaverFever said: It’s not an actual group of people. There’s not like an antifa leader or a formal membership. You’re Antifa simply because you say you’re Antifa. Being Antifa is like being a surfer or a vegetarian or a dog lover. You are because you say you are. Now are there surf clubs and vegetarian meet-up groups and doggy playdate groups? Sure, but they’re not the THE entire group, just a small gathering of individuals who want to apply that identity to themselves. More like they're another 'loosely-affiliated' paramilitary wing of the Dem party, like the KKK and BLM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 53 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: More like they're another 'loosely-affiliated' paramilitary wing of the Dem party, like the KKK and BLM. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Allegheny county in Pennsylvania to count 2000+ ballots without dates on them. Which is another violation of election law. https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/11/11/allegheny-county-board-of-elections-votes-to-count-more-than-2000-ballots-without-dates/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 19 hours ago, BeaverFever said: No not what I said. But elections don’t get overturned because of a single case. Isolated incidents happen in every election. But there is zero evidence of the organized massive scale fraud that would be required for the hundreds of thousands of votes needed to turn the election to Trump. I am confident that Trumps cases will lose in court. But the problem with saying “let him have his day in court” when there is zero evidence is that you’re basically saying every election loser should drag out the election outcome with litigation even when they don't have evidence of wrongdoing. Every election loser would do it because they have nothing more to lose by trying and can at least be satisfied that they’ve sabotaged the winner’s term in office by fomenting conspiracy theories that they came to power illegitimately America will not survive that as the new normal Al Gores case totally different. He did not sue to claim fraud. NOBODY WAS CLAIMING FRAUD OR IMPROPRIETY. The Florida recount was triggered automatically because there were fewer than 2,000 votes between him and Bush. Bush’s lead narrowed to just 537 after the final official tally. As Bush’s lead narrowed, Bush successfully halted the recount in a republican- dominated supreme court, prevailing in court over Gore’s plea to COUNT EVERY VOTE. And yet Al Gore conceded the election despite disagreeing with the ruling... it was later revealed that had a statewide recount been conducted Gore would have won. Yet for the good of the country he conceded even though he was up against a Republican Supreme Court and Bush’s brother was in charge of the Florida recount According to the Ann Coulter column link that I posted above, the Florida ballots were recounted by an independent investigative firm which was paid for by the New York Times,CNN,Washington Post and the Associated Press as well as some others. Apparently even the New York Times admitted that the Supreme Court did not award an election to Bush that otherwise would have been won by Gore. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/11/06/former-dem-governor-admits-democratic-voter-fraud-is-widespread-and-real-n2579632 I could be wrong but it seems that most instances of election fraud seem to involve Democrats. Election fraud here and there can begin to add up. Why shouldn't allegations of election fraud be thoroughly investigated?The Democrats should welcome it if they have nothing to hide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, ironstone said: I could be wrong but it seems that most unfounded accusations of election fraud seem to involve Democrats. Fixed your typo for you in the above ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 Tony Bobulinski...the name that must not be spoken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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