What's wrong with this arrest?

[Argus]

Just now, Boges said:

No, that was murder.

I see. And your legal training comes from what law school?

Brooks was a career criminal. The way the media is portraying him as a loving father is shocking given he was sentenced to 7 years in prison for repeatedly beating his kids and was only let out due to Covid. I find  your desperate sympathy to him unfathomable. I could argue the police should be better trained but I could not care less this dirtbag was killed.

 

[Boges]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

I see. And your legal training comes from what law school?

Brooks was a career criminal. The way the media is portraying him as a loving father is shocking given he was sentenced to 7 years in prison for repeatedly beating his kids and was only let out due to Covid. I find  your desperate sympathy to him unfathomable. I could argue the police should be better trained but I could not care less this dirtbag was killed.

Ahh so we go back to Brooks's past crimes being an excuse for execution. 

Looks like the Cop that shot him could be executed for it. So they have something in common now. 

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[Argus]

6 minutes ago, Boges said:

Ahh so we go back to Brooks's past crimes being an excuse for execution. 

Okay, I'm starting to understand why Shady says you're a troll.

6 minutes ago, Boges said:

Looks like the Cop that shot him could be executed for it. So they have something in common now. 

The cop will likely be found not guilty and then sue the city for false arrest, and for false termination.

[Boges]

Just now, Argus said:

Okay, I'm starting to understand why Shady says you're a troll.

At least you can refrain from insults. 

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The cop will likely be found not guilty and then sue the city for false arrest, and for false termination.

Or killed by the state. Looks like his partner may turn on him. 

[Iceni warrior]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

  There is no curb side trial conducted on scene.

Nor should there be a curbside execution.

[Moonbox]

21 hours ago, Army Guy said:

This is not about police forces getting updated, this is about police forces adapting to the violence they face on the streets, hence military grade carbines, armoured swat vehs, etc, Sad really, that we the people are calling for their budgets to be used on something else, because of a few bad apples on the police force, and a whole shit ton of bad guys instead we have abandoned them, vilified them, they are our new enemy. no wonder police are quitting in record numbers, this is not how we make change...we have to show some common sense, we need policing we are not adult enough to live without it, see Seattle if your in doubt..

Except the militarization of the police hasn't been causally correlated with violent crime or homicide.  Violent crime in Canada has dropped dramatically over the last 40-50 years, but our urban police forces are increasingly equipped like small armies.  

The idea that folks are proposing we abolish or get rid of police is a joke though.  Nobody is proposing that and if we're seeing a bunch quit - then fine.  See ya.  The police unions in North America have long needed to be taken down a peg and along with some of the good folks we lose are hopefully a lot of the bad apples as well.  There aren't just a few of them either.  The fact that they're so bad at policing their own pretty much proves that.  The way they close ranks and shut out investigators is alarming. 

 

[WestCanMan]

29 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

Nor should there be a curbside execution.

Whoooaaaaa great comeback iceni. 

I toats agree we need to put an end to curbside executions like this one, where the Chief did absolutely nothing wrong, the police stopped him for absolutely no reason, and then when he was being polite the whole time, he just got killed out of the blue. Blood and guts everywhere, but surprisingly no brains. 

You should be a SCJ. The cops would never arrest anyone. It would be AWESOOOMMMME!

It would be kind of hard to be an attractive woman, or for kids to ride bikes, or for men to go to work 40 hrs a week, knowing that the police weren't doing anything, but at least executions like this would come to an end! Hallelujah brotha!

 

[taxme]

4 hours ago, Boges said:

Cops are public servants. Conservatives keep forgetting that. They work for the public, so we have every right to have an onion on what they do. 

If the penalty for not being complete appreciate of a cop is getting assaulted or worse, then I can totally understand why the police are taking a beating in public opinion right now. 

So, just what are conservatives forgetting here? It has been the leftist liberals that have pretty much been running this country for several decades now, and what the hell did they ever do about this so called police brutality and racism in Canada? Sweet dyk all. If it were not for the BLM(burn/loot/mayhem)demonstrations in America there would be no BLM demonstrations going on in Canada at all. I guess the reason for that is that the majority of Canadians did not give all that much of a crap about racism in Canada. Sure there may be some racist cops around but the majority of cops are not racist. There are probably some racists in your own leftist liberal/socialist/communist political party in Canada. So, what are you going to do about that, eh? 

But what I am seeing today is plenty of racism and hatred going on against our white British history and heritage in Canada. What some of our founder leaders did centuries ago was quite acceptable back then. Today, it is not. Live with it. Stop trying to promote hatred and racism towards British descendants like me. I had nothing to do with what happened in the past. Stop trying to destroy my white British history here in Canada by trying to tear down white British statues or changing white British street names. Enough already of this anti-British racism. 

 

 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

Or killed by the state.

I can promise you that cop won't be executed by the state. There are 42,000 police officers in Georgia right now and there probably aren't a dozen who would keep wearing their badges if they said he was getting the death penalty.

You can't tell cops that they have to allow themselves to be punched in the face and then tased without defending themselves. Half of them will quit right there. Forget about convincing them that they'll get the death penalty for defending themselves. 

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Looks like his partner may turn on him. 

 it sure looks like one of them is fucked.

[Boges]

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

But what I am seeing today is plenty of racism and hatred going on against our white British history and heritage in Canada.

Wow, you really said that. 

A fraction of Canada's "culture" really revolves around anything British. 

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[Boges]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

You can't tell cops that they have to allow themselves to be punched in the face and then tased without defending themselves. Half of them will quit right there. Forget about convincing them that they'll get the death penalty for defending themselves. 

I don't think he's going to get the Death Penalty, but it's possible. 

Defending themselves and shooting a guy in his back and kicking him as he's dying are different things. 

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, Boges said:

Cops are public servants. Conservatives keep forgetting that. They work for the public, so we have every right to have an onion on what they do. 

We have every right to have an opinion, sure, and to make necessary criticisms of the police, yes. But most of what is being said these days can be disregarded, as it's just idiotic. It's like if your 8 year old wants to stay up til midnight on a school night. Thanks for the opinion, now go to bed. 

Conservatives aren't forgetting anything. We saw a cop murder someone two weeks ago. Cops saw that too. 

Then we saw Rayshard Brooks go full retard, and the dire consequences of that. 

There's a good reason why you won't see conservatives just punch a cop in the face and then tase them. You go right ahead though. 

This chief was a dick who no doubt gets punched in the face a lot.  

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If the penalty for not being complete appreciate of a cop is getting assaulted or worse, then I can totally understand why the police are taking a beating in public opinion right now. 

My google translator guessed that that was bullshit, but even it couldn't make complete sense of that first part. 

You're actually fabricating here Boges, which is the worst form of lying. The Chief wasn't just 'not appreciating' the fine work of the police, he wasn't just being a dick, he actually threatened the cop on more than one occasion. Then he resisted arrest.

I don't think the cop should have punched him when he was on the ground, but we couldn't see all that was going on. Maybe Chief Little Brain head-butted him, squeezed his balls, kneed him, scratched him, pulled his hair, bit him.... We just don't know, and when you don't know you don't guess. 

The punch looked bad, there will be an investigation, there's no need for the assumption of absolute guilt on the part of the cop, or acting like the chief wasn't a total asshole, or acting like this one incident is proof that "all cops are just racist against natives!!!!!". This is a grown up discussion. Wear some big boy pants, with a belt even. 

[WestCanMan]

17 minutes ago, Boges said:

I don't think he's going to get the Death Penalty, but it's possible. 

Defending themselves and shooting a guy in his back and kicking him as he's dying are different things. 

1) Not possible 2) they didn't 'shoot him in the back', they 'shot him when he was shooting a taser at the cop' 3) I haven't seen video of a cop kicking him while he was dying, have you? Can you post a link plz? There were citizens filming that, not just cop cams. Cite req'd.

 

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[Shady]

1 hour ago, Iceni warrior said:

Nor should there be a curbside execution.

It usually depends on the actions of the person placed under arrest.  If you resist, take their weapons and try to use it against them, it certainly may lead to a fatality.

[Boges]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

1) Not possible 2) they didn't 'shoot him in the back', they 'shot him when he was shooting a taser at the cop 3) I haven't seen video of a cop kicking him while he was dying, have you? Can you post a link plz? There were citizens filming that, not just cop cams. Cite req'd.

And a Tazer isn't a lethal weapon. He was running away, and he had no where to go. 

The DA has charged him with murder and he's been fired. So he must have done something wrong in the eyes of the law. 

The DA claims Brooks was kicked. 

https://fox6now.com/2020/06/18/prosecutor-officer-kicked-rayshard-brooks-after-shooting/

[Boges]

1 minute ago, Shady said:

It usually depends on the actions of the person placed under arrest.  If you resist, take their weapons and try to use it against them, it certainly may lead to a fatality.

I would agree if a lethal weapon was taken. 

[taxme]

3 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Here are some stats about the RCMP, I think some of the posters should take a step back and read before being so judgmental about how the police conduct themselves. you need to read the link and judge for yourself.... 

2.8 million calls and interactions with Canadians and 99.9 % have good results.... sounds like a police department that is out of control to me, if the RCMP is full of systemic racism, then so is every department in Canada, so is the entire country... why are we honed in on just one department ? 

No One is disputing the fact that there is a few racists in the RCMP, or those that use excessive force on repeated occasions, I think we can all agree those guys need to be weeded out... But according to these stats or report card, they don't deserve to be defunded, they need to be thanked for being on the job and for the most part keeping us safe... once again Canadians are jumping to conclusions, much like firearms...

 

 

 

https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/ict-tic.nsf/eng/h_it07229.html

In reality, what is going on here is nothing more than a bunch of Antifa communist agitators trying to cause racial problems in Canada that has very little racism going on. If Canadians are supposed to be so racist then why in the hell are most of our new immigrants that are immigrating to Canada mostly coming from nonwhite countries. Why would white people be doing this if this country were a racist country? There is racism in every country on earth, and it will always be there. But by trying to tear down our British historical statues of some British founder or wanting to change a street named after Churchill is not the way to go.

We are always told that we must forgive and forget. But that is not what we are seeing today. I now see hatred and racism being promoted today in Canada against white British history, and that is not acceptable. Most cops are good cops, and the racist ones that are will get caught one day, and they will be dealt with. I am pretty dam sure that both those two Atlanta white cops that shot the black man were not being or showing racism one bit.

Apparently, the Atlanta police department has over 60% black cops working in that police department. I wonder what would be said or done if those two white cops were black cops instead, and they did the exact same thing? The leftist liberal media would drop the killing of that black man by two black cops like a hot potato. If the cop is being charged with murder than he also has the right to defend himself from being charged with murder. I did not see any murder taking place from the video, it was not all that clear anyway, and the black cops that work in the Atlanta police force did not see any murder being committed also. This is just more BLM/Antifa crap going on again. White on black incident is bad. Black on white incident is okay. Go figure, eh? 

[taxme]

25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I can promise you that cop won't be executed by the state. There are 42,000 police officers in Georgia right now and there probably aren't a dozen who would keep wearing their badges if they said he was getting the death penalty.

You can't tell cops that they have to allow themselves to be punched in the face and then tased without defending themselves. Half of them will quit right there. Forget about convincing them that they'll get the death penalty for defending themselves. 

 it sure looks like one of them is fucked.

Well, according to the prosecutor it looks like the cop is phucked. But we must wait and see as to what his partner says in the trial. If his partner wants to protect his ass from being nailed, then he may just turn on his partner, and try to make the other cop look bad so he can look good to cover his ass. The defense will get the truth out of him if he lies at all. Just saying. 

[Iceni warrior]

41 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Whoooaaaaa great comeback iceni. 

I toats agree we need to put an end to curbside executions like this one, where the Chief did absolutely nothing wrong, the police stopped him for absolutely no reason, and then when he was being polite the whole time, he just got killed out of the blue. Blood and guts everywhere, but surprisingly no brains. 

You should be a SCJ. The cops would never arrest anyone. It would be AWESOOOMMMME!

It would be kind of hard to be an attractive woman, or for kids to ride bikes, or for men to go to work 40 hrs a week, knowing that the police weren't doing anything, but at least executions like this would come to an end! Hallelujah brotha!

 

We were talking about Brooks not the chief. A man shot in the back while running from the police.

I'd call that an execution.

[Iceni warrior]

15 minutes ago, Shady said:

It usually depends on the actions of the person placed under arrest.  If you resist, take their weapons and try to use it against them, it certainly may lead to a fatality.

It also depends on the quality of the training the police receive. At the point this man was running from two police officers he was not a lethal threat to either of them.

[taxme]

28 minutes ago, Boges said:

Wow, you really said that. 

A fraction of Canada's "culture" really revolves around anything British. 

Yes wow, I really said that. Well, if the french from Quebec keep getting their way then our British history and culture will soon be gone forever, and it will be replaced by their own french history and culture and other foreign cultures as well. Believe it or not. 

[taxme]

40 minutes ago, Boges said:

I don't think he's going to get the Death Penalty, but it's possible. 

Defending themselves and shooting a guy in his back and kicking him as he's dying are different things. 

Did you actually see the whole video yourself, and what took place after the guy was shot? I only saw the part where the cop shot him and that was it. Maybe the cop tried instead to use his leg, not kick him, to see if he was still alive. After that, the cop then tried to give the guy CPR. I am pretty sure that the cop did not want to see the guy die in front of him. No murder seen here. 

[taxme]

23 minutes ago, Boges said:

I would agree if a lethal weapon was taken. 

Why don't you just admit it that you are trying to be a bit of a racist here by trying to promote your anti white cop racism bias here? Nobody in there right mind can blame the cop for what he did. If he is charged with murder than that will be a crime in itself here. Again, all the black cops on the Atlanta police force saw no murder being committed here. They know more about what really took place then you do. So stop trying to appear as though you are now judge and jury here on this shooting incident.

I am pretty sure that if this were two black cops shooting and killing a white guy instead, you would not give a shit nor would the leftist liberal media either. You would no doubt be saying that it was the white guys fault for trying to resist arrest and for fighting with the cops and then got himself shot and killed. I know how all of you leftist liberal anti white cop haters think like a book. White on black crimes are not okay. But black on white crimes are okay.   

[taxme]

3 hours ago, Boges said:

And refuse to actually debate any issue. Just talk to other posters using Ad Hominem attacks. Way to debate poorly. 

So, what was a nice loving father like him doing drinking and driving and then found later asleep behind the wheel of his car when he should have been at home with his family instead? The guy was no angel, he was a criminal, so stop trying to make him out to be. This loving father appeared to not show himself to be much of a loving father. Just saying. 

[taxme]

27 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

It also depends on the quality of the training the police receive. At the point this man was running from two police officers he was not a lethal threat to either of them.

So, in what way are you involved in this incident anyway? Are you a family member or friend to the victim here? Why are you showing so much concern over this incident? Is it because it involved to white cops shooting a black man? Just asking.