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1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

1. I know what your examples are, but the ones you chose began with Ronald Reagan.

2. Or is Antifa a figment of your imagination?

3. Before criticising an isolated incident, please provide a baseline of the hundreds of thousands, nay millions, of police incidents that do not result in this problem. Now go get britches in twist...

4. No, you really don't...

1. Well the one we started with was in fact present day allegations of police brutality.

2. ANTIFA isn't an organized group, it's a principle of resistance with whatever means are necessary.  I guess you could cause them alt-left.

3. Yes that's what we started with, that you seemed to miss.

4. Why not?  I think I do.

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2 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I wonder if the far-left money people of which Soros is the easiest to identify bussed the agitators in the way they did in Charlottesville.

Globalist Soros will never pass up a chance to cause more chaos and mayhem if the scum bag can get his chance to do so. Globalist Soros will always end up sending in his communist Antifa thugs to try and change what some peaceful demonstration was supposed to be all about. The many demonstrations that start off peacefully will always in the end, with no thanks to globalist Soros, start to turn into violence. The death of Floyd has now turned into a chance to loot and riot, and now the news is more about that then with his death. 

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6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

ANTIFA isn't an organized group, it's a principle of resistance with whatever means are necessary.  I guess you could cause them alt-left.

Why not?  I think I do.

But, you said they're not an organized group! There is no alt-left! It's a right wing problem, stupid right wingers. Reagan, Bush et al!

Trump announces US to designate Antifa as terrorist organization

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7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. ANTIFA isn't an organized group, it's a principle of resistance with whatever means are necessary.  I guess you could cause them alt-left.

"Antifa, the extreme anarchist-communist movement, has rioting down to an art. The first broken window is the blood in the water for looters to move in. When the looting is done, those carrying flammable chemicals start fires to finish the job. Footage recorded in Minneapolis and other cities show militants dressed in black bloc— the antifa uniform — wielding weapons like hammers or sticks to smash windows. You see their graffiti daubed on smashed up buildings: FTP means ‘Fuck the Police’; ACAB stands for ‘All Cops Are Bastards’; 1312 is the numerical code for ACAB."

Once we get the above information straight I don't really care how you want to excuse them. If they don't have an organizational headquarters it just makes them a little harder to root out of their rat-holes is all.

BTW that quote is from an article that's worth a read:

https://spectator.us/andy-ngo-antifa-american-insurgency/

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1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

"Antifa, the extreme anarchist-communist movement, has rioting down to an art. The first broken window is the blood in the water for looters to move in. When the looting is done, those carrying flammable chemicals start fires to finish the job. Footage recorded in Minneapolis and other cities show militants dressed in black bloc— the antifa uniform — wielding weapons like hammers or sticks to smash windows. You see their graffiti daubed on smashed up buildings: FTP means ‘Fuck the Police’; ACAB stands for ‘All Cops Are Bastards’; 1312 is the numerical code for ACAB."

Once we get the above information straight I don't really care how you want to excuse them. If they don't have an organizational headquarters it just makes them a little harder to root out of their rat-holes is all.

BTW that quote is from an article that's worth a read:

https://spectator.us/andy-ngo-antifa-american-insurgency/

He'd better be careful.  The last time he said something Antifa didn't like they beat him up.

 

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3 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

"Antifa, the extreme anarchist-communist movement, has rioting down to an art. The first broken window is the blood in the water for looters to move in. When the looting is done, those carrying flammable chemicals start fires to finish the job. Footage recorded in Minneapolis and other cities show militants dressed in black bloc— the antifa uniform — wielding weapons like hammers or sticks to smash windows. You see their graffiti daubed on smashed up buildings: FTP means ‘Fuck the Police’; ACAB stands for ‘All Cops Are Bastards’; 1312 is the numerical code for ACAB."

Once we get the above information straight I don't really care how you want to excuse them. If they don't have an organizational headquarters it just makes them a little harder to root out of their rat-holes is all.

BTW that quote is from an article that's worth a read:

https://spectator.us/andy-ngo-antifa-american-insurgency/

How am I excusing them ?  How are they an organization ?  They don't even have cells that communicate with each other AFAIK.

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On 5/30/2020 at 3:21 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Except in Vancouver, where all it takes to get a large riot is losing a Stanley Cup hockey game 7.

 

 

Please the Richard riot in Montreal makes that one look tame. Actually Bush you are right other than 2 hockey riots and one rebellion with Louiis Riel we do not have that. We do have liberal guilt parades in reaction to this kind of stuff and some black lives matter rallies but nothing close. 

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On 5/30/2020 at 1:28 PM, eyeball said:

Seemingly recent to us but a pretty natural reaction to decades of dedicated capitalist/government cronyism hell bent on wanton greed and power. Race/culture wars, climate change, pandemics these are just sign posts and bumps along a long dusty road people have been wandering down for millenia.  It's the journey not the destination.

Intelligent cephalopods on the other side of the galaxy probably ask "are we there yet" too.

Nothing to do with capitalism everything to do with culture and values. Poor people and socialists are just as racist if not more so.

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33 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I guess you can call antifa alt-left.  They're not an organization though.

If you can get a couple of hundred people out to a protest you're organized enough. I have yet to see any far right group in Canada who can do that, except maybe one time on the Quebec border with the US. That's the only time I saw them outnumber the ANTIFA crowds. And that wasn't even so much far right as anti-immigration (Le Meute).

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On 5/30/2020 at 1:33 PM, Infidel Dog said:

But these race-baited riots only seem to be happening in hubs controlled by what I'll call Progressive Socialist (or if you would prefer leftist) regimes. Coincidence, I guess.

No they happen in all black communities regardless of their political beliefs and financial levels. Especially after this incident. Its just people in nice homes will not burn them down.

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On 5/30/2020 at 1:45 PM, New World Disorder said:

It is something that has been brewing for a long time. The real issue is corrupt police taking justice into their own hands.

That cop with the knee  looked like a scrawny guy. The other cops ignoring him and his knee were 2 white and 1 Chinese and none of them black. Would a  black cop have done that to the guy? Would the white guy have  done that to another white guy? Would the Chinese cop have done that to a white, black or Chinese person? Those are the questions ignited by the film. Everyone now acts angrily assuming the answers based on their own biases.

The fact is none of us know what the phack that cop was thinking and people are too angry to care... they want that cop punished with an open transparent court proceeding. The anger will be reignited during the trial. No good will come of this. Everyone is angry. Even cops. They do not a cop like that making matters worse.

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20 minutes ago, Rue said:

No they happen in all black communities regardless of their political beliefs and financial levels. 

I've heard some blacks who have escaped those (the ones the riots come out of) refer to them as "the Democrat plantations." CL Bryant goes into it in his documentary.

I've heard Candace Owens use the phrase "Democrat Plantation" a lot too, but I'm told by somebody here at MLW I can't consider her black because she's not dark enough. Caramel then? :rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

I've heard some blacks who have escaped those refer to them as "the Democratic plantations." CL Bryant goes into it in his documentary.

I've heard Candace Owens use the phrase a lot too, but I'm told by somebody here at MLW I can't consider her black because she's not dark enough. Caramel then? :rolleyes:

I think Dog this kind of stuff unites all blacks and it also makes all people distrust cops. Cops are in that sense visible minorities. People are quick to negatively blame them all,  the way some do with blacks. They all look the same. When this crap happens black and white leaders, leaders from all communities need to come together, share their outrage but tell people to stay calm. It is easier said than done. You ever tell a kid raped by his father to stay calm?  I have. You think its easy?   You so sure?

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I think if just the race-baiters would "cool it" that would stop the problem before it happened. 

Maybe we should start with education. Blacks are no more victims in current society than anybody else. Every race (including whites) gets some racism but Institutional racism doesn't exist.

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On 5/30/2020 at 7:13 PM, taxme said:

Black people sure do enjoy killing each other. A black person living in Chicago probably has a 100% chance of getting murdered by another black. Thousands of blacks murder each other every year all over America but we never see any riots over it. Why is that? I guess that as long as blacks are killing blacks all is good. But yet let some white guy or cop kill a black person and the shit is guaranteed to hit the fan. And where is Al Sharpton or Reverend Jackson on all of those murders, eh? Nowhere to be found. Those two are racists against white people alright. They both appear to be trying to start a race war against white and black people. Hey, we never know, eh? ;)

Your words evidence racist expression of the worst kind. When a tragedy happens like a fly to shit  you are there making slurs about all blacks using the tragedy as an opportunity to pass off your racist hatred as political opinion. Your words are vile filth. To write them exhibits what you have to offer,  with those words, bitterness, hatred

 

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1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

I think if just the race-baiters would "cool it" that would stop the problem before it happened. 

Maybe we should start with education. Blacks are no more victims in current society than anybody else. Every race (including whites) gets some racism but Institutional racism doesn't exist.

Good luck on that one. You make a lot of assumptions about a hell of a lot of people and what they have experienced in their lives.. Read it back. Where do you get off telling any black person how they should feel? Is your idea of educating them telling them what they should feel? Why stop there? Tell gays, Jews, women, Chinese, aboriginal, Muslims, any group you can think of how they should feel. Go on tell them all. Tell them their experiences are not real, only what you tell them is.Good luck on that.

Oh come now  Dog you wanna teach blacks to listen to Elvis and pretend they don't know who Big Mama Thorton was?

I give you 5 minutes until 1 of your student's gives you 2 fat lips and a flat nose. Careful. I still want you to come to my class, Jewish Sarcasm 102.

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1 hour ago, Rue said:

Everyone now acts angrily assuming the answers based on their own biases.

That is very true, we have it in our DNA to always go back to tribalism. It is a survival instinct. Sometimes it is an automatic response in every community and group that's why conversation is important in order to calibrate our opinions and views.

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10 minutes ago, Independent1986 said:

That is very true, we have it in our DNA to always go back to tribalism. It is a survival instinct. Sometimes it is an automatic response in every community and group that's why conversation is important in order to calibrate our opinions and views.

Its precisely why you detest communism because you know you must be free of anyone telling you who you must be. I get you. You and me we do not approve of rioting and violence but we don't tell a man who feels he's not free he is. You and only you could decide when you are free not me. I witness your freedom. You are the teacher in that sense. Indy I am not sure how this horrible shit ends but it will when certain people feel they are in control of their lives. It is a tough one.

I think America struggles but it is because it constantly looks for freedom. It's what can be ugly at times but leads to some beautiful things. 

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1 hour ago, Rue said:

Anyone else want to post pictures of black gangstas..oh look he has a lot of rings and big lips..oooh...now what should  I post a picture of Elvis, Donny Osmond, John Denver? 

That's debate?  Its pathetic. 

I will like to hear your opinion about this, I am willing to learn as Ayn Rand says: “If you don't know, the thing to do is not to get scared, but to learn.”  I think the first 7 years of a child's life are the most important, it is the time when he/she absorbs information that will stay ingrained in the brain. 

Lots of opportunities were denied to African Americans resulting in poverty to this day and as a result of this lots of families ended up with no father figure or broken family structure. 

I grew up without my father and I remember always I used to look around for someone, a role model to learn from, I think every kid does, is it an instinct and when nobody is there you look at people that "achieved success, fast" without any hard work and it becomes attractive.

Isn't appropriate to bring up an argument that also the entertainment industry holds some responsibility. Millions of dollars are made through songs that are promoting violence and shootings. They make money and kids end up in jail or in the ground. 

I will quote from my Jewish Friend: "Jewish youngsters after WW2 when they arrived in America and Canada started becoming active in gang life". The Jewish elders which were the role models at the time had a lot of power in the community and managed to turn things around. That comes from him, not me, so I can't verify what he is saying is true. And where is the Jewish community today ? Lawyers, doctors, politicians, etc.

But then you can argue that the entertainment is created by the people, is what we want, there is no easy answer and who exactly draws the line what is acceptable and not ? Because then you can go to the other side of religious rule which also not good. Time to sleep been a long week all this agitation in the world is not helping.

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15 hours ago, Independent1986 said:

Explain this logic, why is it when a criminal cop does a heinous act we are told there is a problem with the whole police force however when criminal looters burn cities down we are told is racist to point that out and we should shut our mouth ? Or when civilians throw Molotov cocktails at police: https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/05/31/molotov-cocktail-brooklyn-ny/ . All you intellectuals on both sides, is this the society you want to live in ? 

There are bad apples in every group in question, lets judge them case by case and apply consequences, once we cross that line of generalization it is just a never ending circle.

 

It was not just one criminal cop there was 4 , they knew what was going on was wrong, and yet they did nothing to stop it, they are complicit in killing that man....How is this a problem with the whole police force? ...This one officer has had 20 or more complaints put against him most of those being excessive force, and abuse of power... 20 times his superiors have had to talk to this individual, my question is at what point does a complaint become necessary to take some disciplinary action, the 5 th or the 10th or the 20th complaint....or is it swept under the carpet...hence there is a problem within the department.....and at what complaint number does it get put further up  the chain of command , say to his bosses , boss....And he is not the only one with a service record fill with complaints...the guy telling everyone to get back....he's got a mound of them as well.  and all of this begs the question how many did not get reported ? for me it draws a huge red flag, there is a huge disciplinary problem when officers think it is ok to disobey the law when ever they want....and in broad daylight in front of many witness….how could there not be a problem in the police force...

As for the looters and other criminals , lock them the f**** up....thats the law, it has to be observed by all sides or you get riots... 

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5 hours ago, Rue said:

Good luck on that one. You make a lot of assumptions about a hell of a lot of people and what they have experienced in their lives.. Read it back. Where do you get off telling any black person how they should feel?

I wasn't aware I did any of that so I'm thinking it's not me who's "assuming."

Here's an assumption for you though. I'm assuming you don't actually know what race-baiting is. I'm assuming that because that was what I was talking about. Not assumptions of what the black race was feeling.

Blacks in America are race-baited  (look it up) into believing they're some special sort of victim. No statistic supports that. Many races could put their race's history up against blacks' for incidents of persecution. These race hysteria incidents cherry-picked out of the news are nothing special. There have been at least 10 white on black incidents more radical than the Floyd incident in the last month. They just didn't make it to the top of the news cycle.

For example. Are you familiar with the Jayden Hayden assault case. If not you should ask yourself why not. There are aspects to it that would at one time make it what was called at one time "front page news."

I imagine you've heard of Michigan governor, Gretchen Whitmer. Trump and I call her Gretchen Half-Whitmer. Her administration jumped on board with fellow Democrat Governor Cuomo of New York in thinking it would be a good idea to send Covid patients back from the Hospital to long term elderly care facilities but Gretchen's genius crew put a wrinkle on it. They weren't just sending elderly covid patients to old folks homes. People like 20 year old psycho Jayden Hayden were getting the ol' 'c'mon down' too. He beat the crap out of the 75 year old covid patient sharing a room with him and shared the video of his brave deed on social media. As you may know Gretchen Half-Whitmer is on the short list for being Joe Biden's running mate for the presidential election. So why isn't that story receiving George Floyd levels of attention? Where are the riots. There is all kinds of video showing Hayden to be a raging white-hating racist.

And if you want an example of one of the white-hate cases that involves murder, here ya go:

https://theredelephants.com/breaking-black-male-hunts-assassinates-elderly-white-couple-in-delaware-cemetery-with-scoped-rifle/

My point was  black people are being race baited with false information. And it's working. I don't have to ask black people what they're feeling to know that. I just have to watch the news.

"This poor black people being victimized by the evil whites" myth the race-baiters push is a boil on America's ass that needs to lanced.

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There is racism in America (and Canada too, for that matter) and sure, that sucks, but it isn't institutionalized. White cops aren't cruising the streets looking for blacks to shoot as a matter of policy or even as a general rule.

Yet somehow we're being brain-trained to believe that's the case. If we could somehow put the kibosh on that lie the commies of BLM would be neutered and the commies

of antifa wouldn't have race riots to hide in. That's my point.

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