Warning to All MLW Members - Fear and the Cronavirus

[Yzermandius19]

Trudeau's response is getting worse as he caves more and more to panic monkey's, not better.

[Guest ProudConservative]

7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Trudeau's response is getting worse as he caves more and more to panic monkey's, not better.

What would happen to the conservative denialists, If Trudeau limits deaths in Canada, and the United States gets destroyed? The conservative movement will be finished. Just imagine the look on peoples faces, if Trudeau saves the day.

Trudeau just came out and said that, he expect. Canadians to stay home, and we can't allow our hospitals to be overrun. He's acting late, but he's making amazing decisions. I'm very impressed.

Edited March 17, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

What would happen to the conservative denialists, If Trudeau limits deaths in Canada, and the United States gets destroyed? The conservative movement will be finished.

What would happen to panic monkeys if Bojo limits deaths and the overreacters in Canada and the US have the same or worse death rate despite the draconian crack downs? They'll have wrecked the economy for nothing.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Guest ProudConservative]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

What would happen to panic monkeys if Bojo limits deaths and the overreacters in Canada and the US have the same or worse death toll despite the draconian crack downs? They'll have wrecked the economy for nothing.

What would happen if you followed my advice, and shorted the stock market?

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, ProudConservative said:

What would happen if you followed my advice, and shorted the stock market?

Wrecking the economy for nothing can be very profitable for some, if you're hedged right. That doesn't make it a wise idea for everyone to panic and destroy the economy for no good reason though.

[Guest ProudConservative]

7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Wrecking the economy for nothing can be very profitable for some, if you're hedged right. That doesn't make it a wise idea for everyone to panic and destroy the economy for no good reason though.

But I have no control over the economy... So what's wrong with making a little money? I suggested we invent safety gear, so when the next pandemic hits.... no one has to be afraid to go out in public. It's just like banging a hooker. If you use condom properly, you don't have to worry. Condoms don't promote fear. Condoms promote confidence. Condoms are far cheaper than the consequences.

Edited March 17, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

But I have no control over the economy... So what's wrong with making a little money?

Nothing. What's wrong is your tunnel visioning on protective measures that aren't near the top of the list of precautions as if they are by far the most important precautions to take, and your knee jerk support of draconian measures shutting everything down is also lame.

[Guest ProudConservative]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Nothing. What's wrong is your tunnel visioning on protective measures that aren't near the top of the list of precautions as if they are by far the most important precautions to take, and your knee jerk support of draconian measures shutting everything down is also lame.

A well coordinated temporary shutdown, stops a pandemic, and leaves millions of peoples alive so the economy doesn't crash. The only way to get people to stop panicking is to stop the spread of the virus.... It's not fear mongering. It's the facts.

Edited March 17, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

A well coordinated temporary shutdown, stops a pandemic, and leaves millions of peoples alive so the economy doesn't crash.

A poorly coordinate temporary shutdown that jumps the gun by months, doesn't stop a pandemic, and does more damage by crashing the economy than the virus can do on it's own. You can't keep things closed down forever, and going too early is disastrous because it leaves you less able to weather a shut down when it actually makes sense to resort to that. This is what you are supporting, because you are in a panic and not thinking clearly.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[jacee]

35 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

They had their chance. If they just left for a vacation, don't welcome them back! Let them suffer the consequences of their own stupidity.

Yes, how dare people take a vacation.  

[Zeitgeist]

Okay I just happened across an article from February 26 saying the total number of Coronavirus cases in Italy had hit 400, which is just under our number of confirmed cases in Canada.  Less than three weeks later there are almost 25,000 Coronavirus cases in Italy and over 1800 deaths.  Let’s see where we are in just under three weeks and we’ll see how we did compared to Italy.  

We’ve had 4 C-19 deaths so far, which seems remarkably low, especially considering that, while the US has just over 10 times as many cases of C-19, it has over 20 times as many deaths.  I think a lot of this has to do with where the spread occurred, but it may also relate to a higher number of undiagnosed carriers.  There are more deaths when the virus hits senior homes, but if the death rate is 2-4%, work that math backwards and there could be many more C-19 carriers out there than tests have shown.

I don’t know what the next phase will bring or what the exit strategy will be.  I think we may be in for lockdown and quarantine soon.  

Edited March 17, 2020 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

19 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I don’t know what the next phase will bring or what the exit strategy will be.  I think we may be in for lockdown and quarantine soon.  

The streets are already deserted out here, nobody is having to be ordered, everything is shutting down faster than they can order them to.

[Dougie93]

I see the biggest damage as being economic, again, perfect storm

The equity markets were already a ticking time bomb which was going to explode in a massive correction come the Black Swan

This Black Swan however doesn't stop there, it's ravaging Wall Street & Main Street at the same time

This is the sort of thing which can turn a recession into a depression

[Zeitgeist]

25 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I see the biggest damage as being economic, again, perfect storm

The equity markets were already a ticking time bomb which was going to explode in a massive correction come the Black Swan

This Black Swan however doesn't stop there, it's ravaging Wall Street & Main Street at the same time

This is the sort of thing which can turn a recession into a depression

I think we will see thousands of deaths.  I just don’t know how soon or where.  I hope we don’t follow Italy’s trajectory.  It could be more intense south of the border.  

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think we will see thousands of deaths.  I just don’t know how soon or where.  I hope we don’t follow Italy’s trajectory.  It could be more intense south of the border.  

 

Maybe...or might be more intense north of the border.   More Canadians are concentrated in urban areas. 

[Yzermandius19]

The panic is far more dangerous than The Boomer Remover. The reaction to the problem is a bigger problem than the original problem, beware the SIFCLF panicmongers and the governments that pander to them. Exploit their stupidity where you can.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

19 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think we will see thousands of deaths.  I just don’t know how soon or where.  I hope we don’t follow Italy’s trajectory.  It could be more intense south of the border.  

Wartime conditions; don't anticipate contact, just live in the now, like there's no tomorrow.  

I'm breaking out the good whisky, to toast the Federal Reserve ; they paid for it, free money party, baby, oh yeah. <gang sign>

 

Edited March 17, 2020 by Dougie93

[Guest ProudConservative]

2 hours ago, jacee said:

Yes, how dare people take a vacation.  

Well ya, I think it's incredibly selfish... When the Canadian taxpayer had to spend a fortune to evacuate Canadians from Wuhan, and put them in a 14 day quarantine. How many people should die, if we allow them back into our country? Let them cash in their retirement fund, and deal with the consequences overseas. If we have money to spend, it shouldn't be wasted on arrogant pricks who just booked a flight to Europe.

Edited March 17, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Guest ProudConservative]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

I see the biggest damage as being economic, again, perfect storm

The equity markets were already a ticking time bomb which was going to explode in a massive correction come the Black Swan

This Black Swan however doesn't stop there, it's ravaging Wall Street & Main Street at the same time

This is the sort of thing which can turn a recession into a depression

That's because there wasn't a coordinated international response. As soon as the virus was discovered in China, they should of banned all flights from China. Whenever the next virus appears, you don't screen people. You lock down that region until the virus goes away. That's how you save the international economy.

Edited March 17, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

That's because there wasn't a coordinated international response. As soon as the virus was discovered in China, they should of banned all flights from China. Whenever the next virus appears, you don't screen people. You lock down that region until the virus goes away. That's how you save the international economy.

There wasn't a coordinated international response because China didn't tell anyone for over a month, and muzzled anyone in China who sounded the alarm. By then the genie was long since out of the bottle.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Guest ProudConservative]

4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

There wasn't a coordinated international response because China didn't tell anyone for over a month, and muzzled anyone in China who sounded the alarm. By then the genie was long since out of the bottle.

I wish I could file a lawsuit against China for lose of employment. They need to pay in some shape or form, for the damage they've caused. I hope people will join in a retaliatory boycott of "Made in China", when this is over. If you can find a T-Shirt made in another country, but that T-Shirt. When companies realize that people refuse to buy Chinese products, they will source from some place else. Impoverished nations will have a chance to join the global economy.

Edited March 17, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

I wish I could file a lawsuit against China for lose of employment. We can't let them off the hook. They need to pay in some shape or form, for the damage they've caused.

Canada is not in a position to punish China in any meaningful way, especially without punishing itself. Wanting to make China pay doesn't mean you have the ability to make them pay.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Guest ProudConservative]

3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Canada is not in a position to punish China in any meaningful way, especially without punishing itself. Wanting to make China pay doesn't mean you have the ability to make them pay.

Anti-Chinese virtue signaling is the way to go. If people from all over the world decide on strategic boycotts, we can shift the balance of power, and give opportunities to impoverished nations.

We should be helping places like Haiti, Guatemala, and not China.

Edited March 17, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Yzermandius19]

6 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

Anti-Chinese virtue signaling is the way to go. If people from all over the world decide on strategic boycotts, we can shift the balance of power, and give opportunities to impoverished nations.

We should be helping places like Haiti, Guatemala, and not China.

Virtue signalling might make the virtue signaler feel better, but it accomplishes nothing.

You want to do more business with China's competition? That's a good idea, but it certainly isn't going to make China change it's ways, Canada and Canadians simply do not have the leverage to accomplish that, you just wish they did.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

21 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

That's because there wasn't a coordinated international response. As soon as the virus was discovered in China, they should of banned all flights from China. Whenever the next virus appears, you don't screen people. You lock down that region until the virus goes away. That's how you save the international economy.

Too late now.  Buckle up, son, this could be a wild ride, yeehaw.