Andrew Scheer needs to go.

[Argus]

15 hours ago, -1=e^ipi said:

So Harper 3.0?

 

Conservatives never learn.

You mean they keep trying to put conservative leaders in there instead of liberals?

[Zeitgeist]

17 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Oh but it does work, it's simply not meant to benefit the masses but rather the cronies.

The way Canada works is that the government steals from the majority to give to their cronies, those cronies then turn around and fund the parties.

So Liz Sandals gives $7 million in tax dollars to the teachers unions for "pizza and pop" while they are negotiating.

This is how Canada works writ large, it's a company town run by and for the entrenched interest cronies and not much else.  Not a country, more of a collection of cartels.

Canadian politics has far less private funding than in the U.S..  There are private funding caps and transparency legislation.

[Dougie93]

15 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Canadian politics has far less private funding than in the U.S..  There are private funding caps and transparency legislation.

Whatabootism?  I don't oppose private funding, there's nothing private about Liz Sandals and the teachers unions tho, that's public sector entrenched interest graft.

That's the government stealing from private taxpayers in order to use their own taxes against them.

In terms of private, I oppose all transparency and caps, money is speech, so long as its private, I'll defend that right.

Private interests should not be constrained, only the government should be. The government can steal from you at gunpoint, private citizens cannot.

I oppose public sector unions in of themselves, taxes are not profits, the public sector should not be allowed to collectively bargain against the taxpayer.

F@ck commie Canada and the self perpetuating public sector entrenched interest horse it rode in on.

Edited October 24, 2019 by Dougie93

[Yzermandius19]

41 minutes ago, Argus said:

You mean they keep trying to put conservative leaders in there instead of liberals?

You mean they keep trying to put cuckservative undercover liberal leaders in there instead of real conservatives?

[Yzermandius19]

Down with public sector unions and "transparency and caps" on money in politics. Up with free speech.

Edited October 24, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

You mean they keep trying to put cuckservative undercover liberal leaders in there instead of real conservatives?

Canadian conservatives are the cucks, they cuck to the left before the politicians do, look at Zeitgeist, claims to be a conservative, actually an Eskimo Commie cuck.

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Canadian conservatives are the cucks, they cuck to the left before the politicians do, look at Zeitgeist, claims to be a conservative, actually an Eskimo Commie cuck.

Which is why his blinders don't allow him to see this reality, his confirmation bias is cuckservative, he wouldn't know a real conservative if they slapped him in the face, he'd just mistake them for a "White Supremacist Nazi" or some such nonsense.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Down with public sector unions and "transparency and caps" on money in politics. Up with free speech.

The transparency in commie Canada is a two way mirror, the government is totally opaque while it runs a totalitarian police state against all private dissent.

[Dougie93]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Which is why his blinders don't allow him to see this reality, his confirmation bias is cuckservative, he wouldn't know a real conservative if they slapped him in the face, he'd just mistake them for a "White Supremacist Nazi" or some such nonsense.

He complains about the excesses of leftist totalitarian Canada while he is the one propping it up.  Ultimate cuck.  Posterboi cuck.

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

The transparency in commie Canada is a two way mirror, the government is totally opaque while it runs a totalitarian police state against all private dissent.

Police state coppers allowing zero transparency for themselves while demanding it of everyone else who isn't part of their little Public Sector, Fake, Make Work Club.

That's Canada for you, Janus Face, Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove.

Edited October 24, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Yzermandius19]

6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

He complains about the excesses of leftist totalitarian Canada while he is the one propping it up.  Ultimate cuck.  Posterboi cuck.

He refuses to slaughter their sacred cows because he'd feel too American if he did that, as do all the other cucks. That's why the totalitarian left keeps getting away it, the Cuckservatives simply compromise and roll none of the nonsense back, like the fake opposition that they are, until they turn the ball over and the left scores another touchdown.

Edited October 24, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Zeitgeist]

28 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Whatabootism?  I don't oppose private funding, there's nothing private about Liz Sandals and the teachers unions tho, that's public sector entrenched interest graft.

That's the government stealing from private taxpayers in order to use their own taxes against them.

In terms of private, I oppose all transparency and caps, money is speech, so long as its private, I'll defend that right.

Private interests should not be constrained, only the government should be. The government can steal from you at gunpoint, private citizens cannot.

I oppose public sector unions in of themselves, taxes are not profits, the public sector should not be allowed to collectively bargain against the taxpayer.

F@ck commie Canada and the self perpetuating public sector entrenched interest horse it rode in on.

I disagree.  Full disclosure of donations is important, even if you don't support caps on donations.  The situation in the U.S. has demonstrated that both the conservative and liberal forces draw heavily on private donations.  Obama had huge superblock funding.  Huge private funding is no different to special interest government subsidies.  Governments/parties shouldn't be able to buy votes nor should private companies/individuals be able to buy elections.  A certain amount of this is unstoppable, but caps and transparency are important.

On unions I would be careful.  No doubt union excess brought down the old Big Three automakers and created its own mafia-style influence-peddlers and gravy trains, but unions themselves drove up wages and labour standards for all in important ways.   As always, it's a matter of reasonable limits.  When private businesses don't maintain standards, governments spend all their time doing crisis management.  When governments completely shed social responsibility for the poorest population segments, businesses can't pay or support workers enough and the social fabric declines to an extent that businesses flee.  There's a constantly fluctuating sweet spot between social policy/spending/business regulation and the free marketplace.  There are usually consequences for erring too much in one direction or the other.  Canada has a pretty good formula, some provinces better than others.  Being resource-rich certainly floats all boats.  In that regard not all provinces/territories are created equally.

Edited October 24, 2019 by Zeitgeist

[Yzermandius19]

Can't even differentiate between private sector unions and public sector unions and gives both way too much credit for raising living standards that was a product of the free market.

Being resource rich has given Canada "Dutch Disease", burden not a boon.

Also allowing unrestricted political speech isn't buying elections, it's simply free speech that you don't like and demonize.

Edited October 24, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Zeitgeist]

There's also a difference between privately owned and publicly traded private sector companies, especially in terms of disclosure.  Nevertheless, unions can be legally formed in all workplaces.

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

There's also a difference between privately owned and publicly traded private sector companies, especially in terms of disclosure.  Nevertheless, unions can be legally formed in all workplaces.

Public Sector Unions should burn in hell, not be propped up by cuckservatives who think they are real conservatives. They are extorting taxpayers to line their own pockets against the interests of everyone not in their little club.

Edited October 24, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I disagree.  Full disclosure of donations is important, even if you don't support caps on donations. 

Obviously, as I have taken up Old Glory, I do not support a Stamp Act therein.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Public Sector Unions should burn in hell, not be propped up by cuckservatives who think they are real conservatives.

Just another reason to say F@ck Canada and rally around Old Glory instead.

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Just another reason to say F@ck Canada and rally around Old Glory instead.

Lee Greenwood Knows.

 

[Dougie93]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Lee Greenwood Knows.

 

There is only one free country;  Declaration of Independence preamble and associated light of civilization itself, Canada has fallen to the Bolsheviks, fall back and rally to the republic.

[Yzermandius19]

God Bless The Shinning City On A Hill, A Thousand Points Of Light, From My Cold Dead Hands.

[Rue]

On ‎10‎/‎22‎/‎2019 at 5:37 PM, scribblet said:

Who would replace him, I can't think of anyone right now other than Lisa Rait who lost her seat.   Could we get Rona Ambrose back?

Voting for Trudeau has indicated that Canadians condone his many unethical and corrupt actions, it would also indicate that we feel undeserving of better leadership.  It is concerning that even though all these lies and deceit have been clearly shown, this guy can win, even a minority.   This morning he says he has a 'clear mandate'...   no surprise such a narcissistic idiot would think that.

   Canada is lost, #Wexit is trending

 

Rona Ambrose would not be able to. Not enough experience handling money and business.They need an outsider like Mulroney was. If they went back to Peter MacCay it would cause a spilt inside the party. Sheer was picked as a compromise candidate to avoid Mackay or Kenney. He's basically a Harper loyalistwithout Harper's abilities. He does not have what it takes. He's not liked by Canadians. He's not hated but he's not liked. He comes across very limp. Unfortunately say what you want but people want some charisma and some strong image. Where you find an outsider who would want to enter politics I do not know.

[Dougie93]

There is no point in conservatives going forward under the pretense that this is a country.

This is at least two countries now.

The West needs to follow the lead of Quebec and move from a national party model to a regional party model.  Western Bloc.

First thing that needs to happen is Alberta and Saskatchewan should follow Quebec's lead and withdraw from CPP.

Next,  withdraw resources from equalization payments.

The RCMP should also be jettisoned as provincial police, the West needs its own police.

[Moonlight Graham]

On 10/23/2019 at 11:47 AM, Dougie93 said:

As unimpressive as Scheer is, it's not really his fault.

The core message of conservatism is not going resonate beyond a core base while interest rates are being kept so low.

The electorate feels no reason to conserve when there is no cost to national helicopter mommy flying around dropping free money on voters.

Well he did win the popular vote...

Most of Canada is left-of-center to moderate, not conservative or far left.  The NDP and Greens have done nothing on the federal stage.  People in Ontario chose Ford over the NDP and Greens.  Canadians voted in Harper 3 times.  They don't want free sh!t as much as they want good governing.

Scheer is a bible-thumping quack and a slimy spineless cuckhold, I wouldn't call him a good conservative leader.

[Moonlight Graham]

Whoever in here said Pierre Pollievre would make a good CPC leader is braindead.  The man is a snake.

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

 They don't want free sh!t as much as they want good governing.

They'll never get it within this Confederation to nowhere, Canada is a fool's errand.