Cannucklehead Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Army Guy said: So other than what is in it for you, because that seems to be this election flavor......what other policies would rank on your priority list... Carbon tax and greenhouse reduction. Green party thinks the liberals are not doing enough but I think their.goals are unrealistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 12 hours ago, Army Guy said: So other than what is in it for you, because that seems to be this election flavor......what other policies would rank on your priority list... He wants a new TV. Promise him a new TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 15 hours ago, Cannucklehead said: To lower the cost, the Liberals say they would open up the market to more competition and work with cell companies to offer plans that more closely mirror global prices. They would also implement an unlimited family plan. More rules could kick in after two years if the prices don't decrease enough. They should do something about that and car insurance imo. The government has no business, pun intended, to get in the cell phone business on such a micro level as to be implementing cell phone plans. This shit is ridiculous. Are they going to get involved in the topping plans of pizza places? How about room service for hotels? Oil changes at garages? Learn what government is suppose to be about, and what their responsibilities should and shouldn’t be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 All these state dependent kooks care about is their gibs, what is the gubment gonna gibs them Never mind economics, never mind the rule of law, never mind freedom, gibs, gibs, gibs . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Argus said: He wants a new TV. Promise him a new TV. Yep. He needs to grow the eff up and start taking care of himself like an adult. Not looking for the government to run his life. I swear that some people, particularly NDP and Liberal voters would sign up for a program where the government would wipe your butt for you if they could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 These people have been indoctrinated, they've been conditioned by the state, everybody in Canada has a sob story, cause that's how you get your gibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Shady said: The government has no business, pun intended, to get in the cell phone business on such a micro level as to be implementing cell phone plans. This shit is ridiculous. Are they going to get involved in the topping plans of pizza places? How about room service for hotels? Oil changes at garages? Learn what government is suppose to be about, and what their responsibilities should and shouldn’t be. If business are not regulated by the government you end up with more bread price fixing scandals. Edited October 20, 2019 by Cannucklehead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Cannucklehead said: If business are not regulated by the government you end up with more bread price fixing scandals. Canada has one of the most heavily regulated telecom markets in the world, way more interventionist than in America, that's why it's so expensive in Canada. You cut your own economic throat by demanding more intervention by Ottawa, typical infantilized Canadian. Your national helicopter mommy does you no more favors than your actual helicopter mommy did. Edited October 20, 2019 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Whatever you say Dougie. So why exactly are Canadians paying such high prices for cell service? The answer will likely annoy and frustrate you. In 2017, the National Post reported that carriers price their plans high simply because they can. Here are some key takeaways about the state of the telecommunications industry in Canada: There is not enough competition in Canada for carriers to lower their prices Bell, Rogers and Telus networks cover over 97% of Canadians. New carriers would have to build a nationwide network of cell towers to compete Provinces that do have a strong fourth carrier (i.e. Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Quebec) all enjoy lower rates; even from the national carriers Freedom Mobile is the 4th largest carrier, but has only been able to roll out limited coverage to parts of Ontario, BC and Alberta Deep-pocketed foreign investors are prohibited by Canadian laws Canadian telecom companies are among the most profitable in the world, so there's little incentive to change pricing competitiveness Canadians are still subject to data overage charges while US plans typically include unlimited data Try researching before you talk, makes you sound like a typical ignorant foreigner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Just now, Cannucklehead said: Whatever you say Dougie. Try researching before you talk, makes you sound like a typical ignorant foreigner. National helicopter mommy is the one keeping foreign competition out to prop up Rogers and Bell, but go ahead and poop your diapers about it, giant baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Just now, Dougie93 said: National helicopter mommy is the one keeping foreign competition out to prop up Rogers and Bell, but go ahead and poop your diapers about it, giant baby. So you think more foreign investors are the answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: So you think more foreign investors are the answer? Foreign investors want nothing to do with the Canadian telecom market because they know Ottawa is protectionist in favor of propping up Rogers and Bell. Why invest in Canada when America is right next door? I live in Canada, and I don't even invest in Canada, I only invest in America, Canada is a supply management cartel run economic backwater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 I mean, heck, even Communist China is less interventionist than Canada. If you want to buy telco, buy Tencent, if you don't want to hold it in mainland China, you can hold by arbitrage in Joburg South Africa with Naspers which owns a 31% stake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: So you think more foreign investors are the answer? Many other business sectors in Canada have thought so....for over 50 years. Canada even has a name for it...Foreign Direct Investment (FDI), and is always begging for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Canada is living in the past, the Canadian government is trying to run things like it is still 1975, meanwhile the rest of the world is in the 21st century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 You know what's hilarious? Afghanistan has better cell phone plans than Canada, Afghanistan has some of the cheapest data rates in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Maybe the present government (Liberals) will get a minority if it promises to force American Super Bowl® commercials instead of simsub again. The CRTC is a fickle thing when it comes to protecting Canadian culture ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Many other business sectors in Canada have thought so....for over 50 years. Canada even has a name for it...Foreign Direct Investment (FDI), and is always begging for more. https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf09920.html The decision to introduce foreign investment restrictions for telecommunications was made in 1987, in the context of the Canada–U.S. Free Trade negotiations. you were saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf09920.html The decision to introduce foreign investment restrictions for telecommunications was made in 1987, in the context of the Canada–U.S. Free Trade negotiations. you were saying? If you are upset about telecom prices, putting barriers on foreign investment and propping up Canadian telecoms are the main culprits, not a lack of government regulation, there is too much regulation as it is. Edited October 20, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Cannucklehead said: https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf09920.html The decision to introduce foreign investment restrictions for telecommunications was made in 1987, in the context of the Canada–U.S. Free Trade negotiations. you were saying? LOL! Because Canada insisted on propping up uncompetitive Canadian crap by protecting it from the US market, that's why your shit is so expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 As long as Canada keeps out foreign telecoms to suck Bell and Rogers dick, Rogers and Bell are going to exploit that to keep prices high. Without competition, this is what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Oh I thought it was too much regulations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Seriously, telco in Afghanistan is booming, if you you're looking for upside, invest in Kabul not Ottawa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 That's why I am with freedom mobile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Just now, Cannucklehead said: Oh I thought it was too much regulations? There is, and you think more regulation is the answer, even though that has jacked up the prices you are complaining about. Your proposals will simply make the situation worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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