Yzermandius19 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Just now, bcsapper said: See above. What am I looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I just have contempt and disgust for any religion that seeks to oppress and kill those who disagree with its tenets. How is that Muhammad Ali? How is that the King of Jordan? How is that the lovely lady who takes care of me down that luxury used car dealership? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Speaking of scary Mooslambs, here's a couple of them, having a sit down with Putin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: What am I looking for? preposition preposition: above 1. in extended space over and not touching. "a display of fireworks above the town" extending upward over. "her arms above her head" higher than and to one side of; overlooking. "in the hills above the capital" synonyms: over, higher (up) than, overlooking; More on top of, atop, on, upon "light filtered through a tiny window above the door" antonyms: below, under, beneath 2. at a higher level or layer than. "bruises above both eyes" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: preposition preposition: above 1. in extended space over and not touching. "a display of fireworks above the town" extending upward over. "her arms above her head" higher than and to one side of; overlooking. "in the hills above the capital" synonyms: over, higher (up) than, overlooking; More on top of, atop, on, upon "light filtered through a tiny window above the door" antonyms: below, under, beneath 2. at a higher level or layer than. "bruises above both eyes" I don't see any point you made above that justifies your Sharia Law concern trolling, so you are going to have to be more specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: How is that Muhammad Ali? How is that the King of Jordan? How is that the lovely lady who takes care of me down that luxury used car dealership? I don't know about Muhammad Ali or the King of Jordan, but the lady down at the used car dealership sounds like an absolute prize. Still, that's the argument all the time. If you have contempt and disgust for some of them, it must follow that you have contempt and disgust for all of them. It's constant, and boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: I don't see any point you made above that justifies your Sharia Law concern trolling, so you are going to have to be more specific. The point didn't justify it. It denied it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) When it comes to Sharia law though, no less a personage than the Archbishop of Canterbury (older version) has stated that some aspects of Sharia Law should be introduced into British culture. He was a complete pratt, of course. Edit> Probably still is. Edited September 14, 2019 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: IIf you have contempt and disgust for some of them, it must follow that you have contempt and disgust for all of them. Why would I have contempt and disgust for any of them? They worship the same God I do. The only people I have contempt and disgust for are those who are the enemies of Brandenburg v Ohio and DC v Heller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, bcsapper said: The point didn't justify it. It denied it. So you are arguing against yourself now? Schizophrenic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Why would I have contempt and disgust for any of them? They worship the same God I do. The only people I have contempt and disgust for are those who are the enemies of Brandenburg v Ohio and DC v Heller. Ah, okay. Sometimes these arguments come down to a very basic disagreement that no amount of arguing is going to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: So you are arguing against yourself now? Schizophrenic? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Just now, bcsapper said: Ah, okay. Sometimes these arguments come down to a very basic disagreement that no amount of arguing is going to change What's your disagreement with Mooslambs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Why would I have contempt and disgust for any of them? They worship the same God I do. The only people I have contempt and disgust for are those who are the enemies of Brandenburg v Ohio and DC v Heller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: What's your disagreement with Mooslambs? It's the disagreement with you that I was talking about. If you find nothing contemptible or disgusting in Islam, then that's your view. Nothing I can say will change that, given the evidence you must have already overlooked. Any request for such evidence will, of course, force me to go to the link again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bcsapper said: It's the disagreement with you that I was talking about. If you find nothing contemptible or disgusting in Islam, then that's your view. Nothing I can say will change that, given the evidence you must have already overlooked. Any request for such evidence will, of course, force me to go to the link again. You refuse to state what you find disgusting or contemptible, and go painting all Muslim's with a broad brush. The fact that you won't even state what your opinion is after numerous requests just goes to show you are scarred your argument will be torn to shreds, so you keep it to yourself to prevent your bubble from bursting. Edited September 14, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, bcsapper said: It's the disagreement with you that I was talking about. If you find nothing contemptible or disgusting in Islam, then that's your view. Nothing I can say will change that, given the evidence you must have already overlooked. Any request for such evidence will, of course, force me to go to the link again. No link required, I will take your word as a gentleman, present me the evidence on my assumption that you are a source of impeccable reputation; HM Sapper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: You refuse to state what you find disgusting or contemptible, and go painting all Muslim's with a broad brush. The fact that you won't even state what your opinion is after numerous requests just goes to show you are scarred your argument will be torn to shreds, so you keep it to yourself to prevent your bubble from bursting. Arguing about Islam is like shooting fish in a barrel. The fact that you pretend there is nothing disgusting or contemptible with the religion, and the fact that you have to use the old "all Muslims" saw, shows you have no argument at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Arguing about Islam is like shooting fish in a barrel. The fact that you pretend there is nothing disgusting or contemptible with the religion, and the fact that you have to use the old "all Muslims" saw, shows you have no argument at all. Why would we have to present any argument against an unfounded assertion of "disgusting & contemptible"? It is because you say it is, is circular logic so unproven by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Just now, Dougie93 said: Why would we have to present any argument against an unfounded assertion of "disgusting & contemptible"? It is because you say it is, is circular logic so unproven by default. You don't have to present an argument. Like I said, that's your view, and there's nothing I can do about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, bcsapper said: You don't have to present an argument. Like I said, that's your view, and there's nothing I can do about that. The onus is not on me to prove a negative. Your assertion is "disgusting & contemptible" argument is when you prove cogently by presenting evidence to underpin it. If you don't understand what an argument is, just to let you know; you are full of shit until you make your argument. Nobody has to prove you wrong, you are wrong by default if you can't present your argument underpinned by logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: The onus is not on me to prove a negative. Your assertion is "disgusting & contemptible" argument is when you prove cogently by presenting evidence to underpin it. If you don't understand what an argument is, just to let you know; you are full of shit until you make your argument. Nobody has to prove you wrong, you are wrong by default if you can't present your argument underpinned by logic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning I think even those who coined the term would never have imagined it would be used to describe requests for evidence of the egregious aspects of Islam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: I think even those who coined the term would never have imagined it would be used to describe requests for evidence of the egregious aspects of Islam. I am posting in good faith. Moderator take note. bcsapper's assertion is that something about Islam is "disgusting & contemptible" That is an unfounded assertion, he refuses apparently to back that up with any evidence, to wit logical underpinning. The onus is not on me to prove him wrong in an argument, the onus is on him to prove his assertions. I am simply waiting for him to present a cogent argument underpinned by logic. Whatever his thing about "sealionins" is, I would say it's simply a distraction, smokescreen to avoid the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I am posting in good faith. Moderator take note. bcsapper's assertion is that something about Islam is "disgusting & contemptible" That is an unfounded assertion, he refuses apparently to back that up with any evidence, to wit logical underpinning. The onus is not on me to prove him wrong in an argument, the onus is on him to prove his assertions. I am simply waiting for him to present a cogent argument underpinned by logic. Whatever his thing about "sealionins" is, I would say it's simply a distraction, smokescreen to avoid the point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning Moderator take note. Edit> Or not. I don't care. Edited September 14, 2019 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, bcsapper said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning Moderator take note. Edit> Or not. I don't care. Then in good faith retract your unfounded assertion of "disgusting & contemptible" Surely if you are going to indict so many people with such a broad brush, it falls on you to at least underpin that with some sort of logic, evidence, or at the very least explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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