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Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

White people can be Muslims. It is not a skin colour.

Okay, give me a minute...

Posted
30 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I know some great atheists people.  Doesn't excuse the atheist arseholes.

Again, say and do as you please, be as much as an arsehole as you please.

To the threshold of Brandenburg v Ohio under the first amendment of the Light of Civilization itself.

No fears on earth. The God of the Hebrews is with you, always.

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't doubt that a lot of people are xenophobic, but people who grow up in cities with a lot of diversity tend to outgrow that.

This idea that you can easily dismiss vast numbers of people across the world who display absolutely normal human behaviour patterns with a sneering pejorative like 'xenophobe' is one of the major causes behind rising nationalist sentiment. There's a backlash growing against politically correct speech codes which ignore human realities and subject quite ordinary people to nasty insults and accusations.

In 1970, the first "minimal group" study was published. Henri Tajfel and colleagues were surprised to find that people gave more resources to their in-group members even when the groups were based on highly superficial dimensions such as the tendency to overestimate or underestimate dot arrays or an interest in abstract art.

Since then, psychologists have shown over and over again that even under the most minimal conditions, people more positively evaluate their in-group members, allocate more resources to them, and hold stronger implicit favoritism towards them. Minimal in-group bias has been found in young children-- even as young as age three-- highlighting the deeply ingrained nature of this bias among humans.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/in-group-favoritism-is-difficult-to-change-even-when-the-social-groups-are-meaningless/

 

Edited by Argus

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

Posted
1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Again, say and do as you please, be as much as an arsehole as you please.

To the threshold of Brandenburg v Ohio under the first amendment of the Light of Civilization itself.

No fears on earth. The God of the Hebrews is with you, always.

It's not being an arsehole that's the issue.  It's being told one mustn't call an arsehole an arsehole, because they look a bit different.  To some, the difference excuses the arseholeness.  That's where the argument occurs.

Posted
1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

It's not being an arsehole that's the issue.  It's being told one mustn't call an arsehole an arsehole, because they look a bit different.  To some, the difference excuses the arseholeness.  That's where the argument occurs.

Who told you that, was it your Creator?

Posted
1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I can see using statistics that there is no trend for Muslims to become a majority.  If immigration trends steer that way I would want to change it like you because i don't want to live under sharia law, but i'm not paranoid making up scenarios in my head where there's no evidence of them occurring.

What statistics are you speaking of? Here are the Muslim numbers in Canada since they first reached a sufficient amount for the census to take notice.

1971 33,430 0.1% of population

1981 98,165 0.3%

1991 253,265 0.9%

2001 579,600 1.8%

2011 1,054,945 3.2%

AS you can see the numbers are rising rapidly, essentially doubling every ten years. If we extend this:

2021 2.100,000 6.5% projected

2031 4.5,000,000 13% projected

I might add that Muslims becoming a majority is not the real danger. The real danger is assimilated Muslims becoming a large percentage of the population. There are no countries in which Muslims are a significant minority which do not experience religious violence on a fairly regular basis. For comparison purposes the UK Muslim population is about 5% while it's about 8.8% in France.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

Posted
2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Who told you that, was it your Creator?

Dialamah, I think.  Or Michael.  Omni and Cybercoma before that, but they're gone now.  Marcus, occasionally.

There are others, but it's almost teatime.

Posted
1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

Dialamah, I think.  Or Michael.  Omni and Cybercoma before that, but they're gone now.  Marcus, occasionally.

There are others, but it's almost teatime.

Are they your masters?

Posted
Just now, bcsapper said:

They are arguers.  That's why we're here.

They can argue as they please, that don't make them the Creator.

Who do you answer to?  Dialamah?  A frightened little girl?

Pull yourself together, Sapper, buck up.

Posted
1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Yes another reason for not allowing dual citizenship and dual national allegiances:

There was nothing in your cite which said he had dual citizenship or was born elsewhere...

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

Posted
3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

They can argue as they please, that don't make them the Creator.

Who do you answer to?  Dialamah?  A frightened little girl?

Pull yourself together, Sapper, buck up.

Oh ffs, you buck up.  There is no creator.  Just a site to have some fun arguing with people who have different opinions.

And some who are deliberately disingenuous, but that's not quite as much fun.

Just as easy, though.

Posted
1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

Oh ffs, you buck up.  There is no creator.  Just a site to have some fun arguing with people who have different opinions.

And some who are deliberately disingenuous, but that's not quite as much fun.

Just as easy, though.

Go stand over there with the atheists them, don't appeal to me, I'll be over here with the Creator, doing as i please in his name.

Somebody wants to try to impede me, more fool them.

Disingenuous persons are not prepared to kill nor die for anything, so they are no threat to me.

Posted
10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Go stand over there with the atheists them, don't appeal to me, I'll be over here with the Creator, doing as i please in his name.

Somebody wants to try to impede me, more fool them.

Disingenuous persons are not prepared to kill nor die for anything, so they are no threat to me.

I always lose track on these threads.  When exactly did I appeal to you?

Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

You started crying that Dialmah and Marcus were set upon you and somehow that was your burden.

No I didn't.  This is the disingenuousness coming out.

You started crying because I commented on your notion that somehow if you knew someone who was nice, then it made some kind of difference with regard to those of the same stripe who were not.

Edited by bcsapper
Posted
6 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

No I didn't.  This is the disingenuousness coming out.

You started crying because I commented on your notion that somehow if you knew someone who was nice, then it made some kind of difference with regard to those of the same stripe who were not.

What?  No, guy.  Neversaidthat. Try again.

Posted
1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

What?  No, guy.  Neversaidthat. Try again.

I didn't say you said it.  I said it was your notion.

Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

How so?

It was my inference from your post.  Who cares who you know who is nice?  I couldn't think of another reason to post that in this thread.

And while we're at it, I never started crying over anything.  I only come on here because I enjoy arguing.  If it were not for those who disagree with me, I wouldn't bother.  What would be the point?

Edited by bcsapper

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