Liberals Table Bill C27

[Ell]

The Liberals are attempting to legislate pension changes for federal and crown employees.  They want to steal these peoples hard earned pension that was a contractual agreement between them and their employers for their pensions earned and the pensions they have today.  In other words in my opinion they want to take away these employees hard earned pensions.  It is about time to remove Justin and the Liberals from office.  I do not respect Bullies.  By forcing these pensions from a Defined Benefit plan to an inferior plan it puts the funds that the pensioner worked all their lives to achieve in jeopardy.  How does that protect Senior Citizens and respect families who have worked hard and earned a living for themselves and their family?  They deserve better!!  Instead the main focus appears to be focused on funding out of country issues for other citizens in other countries, mismanaging domestic economic policy and development.  I believe this is creating division and polarising Canadians.  This Country deserves MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER!!!!!  

 

 

[cannuck]

10 hours ago, Ell said:

The Liberals are attempting to legislate pension changes for federal and crown employees.  They want to steal these peoples hard earned pension that was a contractual agreement between them and their employers for their pensions earned and the pensions they have today.  In other words in my opinion they want to take away these employees hard earned pensions.  It is about time to remove Justin and the Liberals from office.  I do not respect Bullies.  By forcing these pensions from a Defined Benefit plan to an inferior plan it puts the funds that the pensioner worked all their lives to achieve in jeopardy.  How does that protect Senior Citizens and respect families who have worked hard and earned a living for themselves and their family?  They deserve better!!  Instead the main focus appears to be focused on funding out of country issues for other citizens in other countries, mismanaging domestic economic policy and development.  I believe this is creating division and polarising Canadians.  This Country deserves MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER!!!!!  

 

 

The time to worry about this stuff was BEFORE Canadians elected some snot nosed, silver spoon  brat with far less than half a brain.

What you sew, so shall ye reap.

Edited June 2, 2019 by cannuck

[Michael Hardner]

This thread sorely needs a cite.  

 

https://www.moneysense.ca/save/retirement/pensions/defined-benefit-pension-plans-due-change/

[dialamah]

It seems to have become a non-issue, at least according to the first paragraph of this Jan 2019 article.   https://www.hilltimes.com/2019/01/23/controversial-pension-bill-unlikely-proceed-groups/184790

I am not a subscriber so can't read beyond the first few lines.

[Ell]

I agree with cannuck.  What you plant you will grow.  And whether it passes or not, it was a brain child of a Monster.  God Forbid it should pass.

[taxme]

16 hours ago, Ell said:

The Liberals are attempting to legislate pension changes for federal and crown employees.  They want to steal these peoples hard earned pension that was a contractual agreement between them and their employers for their pensions earned and the pensions they have today.  In other words in my opinion they want to take away these employees hard earned pensions.  It is about time to remove Justin and the Liberals from office.  I do not respect Bullies.  By forcing these pensions from a Defined Benefit plan to an inferior plan it puts the funds that the pensioner worked all their lives to achieve in jeopardy.  How does that protect Senior Citizens and respect families who have worked hard and earned a living for themselves and their family?  They deserve better!!  Instead the main focus appears to be focused on funding out of country issues for other citizens in other countries, mismanaging domestic economic policy and development.  I believe this is creating division and polarising Canadians.  This Country deserves MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER!!!!!  

 

 

Apparently, these idiot lieberals have been stealing from our Canada Pension Plan money also that the worker and employer donated to that pension. As you said, it is all about the rest of the world and screw Canada with this fool who obviously has hatred and contempt for we the people of Canada. But I am pretty sure that there are still some non-thinking brainless Canadians who will still vote for that fool called the prime mistake of Canukistan. The country does deserve much better but with Scheer and the "progressive" conservative party change will not happen. It will be the same old, same old with that guy. With Scheer it will be lieberal light.

Why do these "progressive" conservatives in the "progressive" conservative party call themselves conservative when they act more like progressive lieberals? Indeed, Trudeau is sowing division and hatred thanks to his push for more multiculturalism and his massive non-western immigration program and agenda. There will be ethnic wars in this country in the not too distant future. But no one is listening and no one seems to care less. As one member said here? Let conditions get really bad and then maybe things will get much much better. One can only hope on that one.  

[Dougie93]

Public sector unionized employees losing their entitlements, boo hoo hoo, cry me a river.

[Ell]

That is the problem Dougie.  It doesn't matter what sector you come from.  It will affect anyone in the public sector who has worked hard for their defined benefit plan and stuck with it for their career.  It would be Crowns and Federal Employees to begin with and then others down the line and could expand to others in the Private sectors.  The point is a person who has dedicated and worked all of their lives and earned the Benefit might otherwise have not done so had they known and could have worked elsewhere in the private sector earning other benefits and tax advantages to get ahead.  If the Government and the companies had any honor, honesty, loyalty, and keep their word then this should not even be considered.  Otherwise you can throw fairness and trust out the window and it is already apparent that the Liberal Govenment and their so called Leader need to be thrown out that same window come election time.

[Dougie93]

Nobody in the private sector gets a DB plan, and we are the ones who pay for these public sector unionized employees, they can't have what we don't get, we're not going to pay for it, they can cry about it all they like, lavish public sector DB plans will be going away, too bad, so sad, nobody in the real world cares, pampered public sector unionized employees are despised, and rightly so.

 

Edited June 5, 2019 by Dougie93