DogOnPorch Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Boges said: Well these protests were in NYC were they not? Feel free to believe NY will be a Swing State before Texas and Georgia will. Who says Trump can't take Brooklyn? You? New York isn't Democrat for life.... 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Wrong....I count several Republican districts in New York. Sure. But they don't play a factor in the POTUS vote. Wouldn't it be cool if districts played a factor in POTUS voting instead of a Winner take all scenario. Like they do in Nebraska and Maine? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Wrong....I count several Republican districts in New York. Staten Island looks rather radish... 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Who says Trump can't take Brooklyn? You? New York isn't Democrat for life.... Nor is Texas Republican for Life. Heck South Carolina could potentially be Democrat in the forceable future. But not in this election. New York is a safe blue state. Quote
Infidel Dog Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Boges said: Who says I am? I'm saying that Trump support in New York is completely wasted. Can't stop the Red Wave, Bud. You can I try though, I guess. At the rally in Ohio there were these three nuns standing behind trump fumbling with their rosaries or applauding as he spoke. On the right we got a big kick out of that. There are always "Blacks for Trump" or "Latinos for Trump" at those rallies too, There was a poll showing 41% favorablility amongst blacks for trump now. They say he only needs to steal 10% of the black vote to win everything. Just an outlier poll, of course, but still... 1 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Boges said: But not in this election. New York is a safe blue state. No such thing as a safe state. Losing just a few seats in New York to Republicans transfers direct to Congress...you do realize... 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Boges said: Sure. But they don't play a factor in the POTUS vote. Wouldn't it be cool if districts played a factor in POTUS voting instead of a Winner take all scenario. Like they do in Nebraska and Maine? No...clearly you do not understand what is on U.S. ballots in each state. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Infidel Dog said: Can't stop the Red Wave, Bud. You can I try though, I guess. At the rally in Ohio there were these three nuns standing behind trump fumbling with their rosaries or applauding as he spoke. On the right we got a big kick out of that. There are always "Blacks for Trump" or "Latinos for Trump" at those rallies too, There was a poll showing 41% favorablility amongst blacks for trump now. They say he only needs to steal 10% of the black vote to win everything. Just an outlier poll, of course, but still... Do you really believe Trump has a shot at New York's EC votes? My point isn't to diminish the political views of people in the post. It's to highlight that when POTUS is considered, unless you're in a swing state, your POTUS vote is wasted. Quote
Boges Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: No such thing as a safe state. Losing just a few seats in New York to Republicans transfers direct to Congress...you do realize... I'm not talking about Congress. I'm talking about the insane Electoral College. If POTUS EC votes were linked to districts like in Maine and Nebraska, the race would be far more democratic. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Boges said: Do you really believe Trump has a shot at New York's EC votes? My point isn't to diminish the political views of people in the post. It's to highlight that when POTUS is considered, unless you're in a swing state, your POTUS vote is wasted. If it equals a new Republican majority in Congress...not wasted at all. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No...clearly you do not understand what is on U.S. ballots in each state. Sure there are down ballot races that matter. But in all but two states, the POTUS vote is winner take all. Meaning getting 51% is the same as getting 95%. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Boges said: I'm not talking about Congress. I'm talking about the insane Electoral College. If POTUS EC votes were linked to districts like in Maine and Nebraska, the race would be far more democratic. I'm talking about Congress. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Boges said: I'm not talking about Congress. I'm talking about the insane Electoral College. If POTUS EC votes were linked to districts like in Maine and Nebraska, the race would be far more democratic. The EC was not designed to be "democratic". Scheer and the Conservatives got more votes in Canada too...so what ? 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, DogOnPorch said: If it equals a new Republican majority in Congress...not wasted at all. Congressional votes and POTUS votes are different. Sure there are Republican districts in Blue State as there are Dem Districts in Red States. Meaningless in POTUS elections. Quote
Boges Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, DogOnPorch said: I'm talking about Congress. Well then I accept your surrender in the statement that New York support for TRUMP, is completely irrelevant. I'm sure Dem voters in Arkansas feel the same. Quote
Boges Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The EC was not designed to be "democratic". Scheer and the Conservatives got more votes in Canada too...so what ? Yes but at least Alberta voters are represented in the HoC. Quote
Infidel Dog Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) I think you're overestimating the importance of winning New York and underestimating how an organization like "Jews for Trump" can sway an election. Jews are big donors. But Antifa should keep attacking them and making them famous so you can see why making them famous is a mistake. Edited October 26, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Boges said: Sure there are down ballot races that matter. You still don't get it....Trump will drive voter turnout...providing more "democracy". 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 No one seems to have any issue with Districts having their say on EC votes. The number of EC votes in a given state is established by the number of districts anyway. Quote
Boges Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Infidel Dog said: I think you're overestimating the importance of winning New York and underestimating how an organization like "Jews for Trump" can sway an election. Jews are big donors. But keep Antifa should keep attacking them and making them famous so you can see why making them famous is a mistake. Biden is killing Trump in fundraising. Quote
Boges Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: You still don't get it....Trump will drive voter turnout...providing more "democracy". Who cares, in New York it's irrelevant. Those EC votes all go to Biden. Edited October 26, 2020 by Boges Quote
Infidel Dog Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Boges said: Biden is killing Trump in fundraising. I know, so keep bashing "Jews for Trump" in New York so we can change that. 1 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: Congressional votes and POTUS votes are different. Sure there are Republican districts in Blue State as there are Dem Districts in Red States. Meaningless in POTUS elections. Not meaningless as every seat in Congress counts...as we've seen with the silly witch hunt. Majority in Congress? You can do all manner of stuff...President or not. Perhaps the Republicans will take Congress and you'll see what I mean...in action. 2 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Boges said: Who cares, in New York it's irrelevant. Those EC votes all go to Biden. But you are the one so concerned about precious " democracy", regardless of EC votes. Why are you telling all those voters they don't matter ? 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Infidel Dog said: I know, so keep bashing "Jews for Trump" in New York so we can change that. Who's "We" is this not a Canadian site? Quote
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